6th US Army

[Andy Mac]

Anyone know the army and corps level armoured units that would have supported 6th and 8th US Armies if Downfall had went ahead ?

[chesmart]

Are you doing a downfall scenario andy ?

[Don Bowen]

All the info is in: http://www.amazon.com/Hell-Pay-Operatio ... 799&sr=8-1

But my copy is loaned out...

[Andy Mac]

Thanks Don
 
Not really Che I am playing with it but its a Looot of work so I wouldnt count on much
 
I got the stuff I can do easily from my own sources i.e. BPF, East Indies Fleet, X Corps most of 6th Army just pulling together 10th Army on Okinawa but its months of work
 
I will keep going until I get bored 

[Andy Mac]

Well I kept going and did 1st 6th, 8th and 10th US armies so most of the main Allied LCU's are done only take about another 30 hours to get them all to the correct OOB/TP/Locations HQ's etc etc thats why I will get bored of this one.
 
I am assuming the Stillwell's 10th Army was converted to containment on PI and garrioson of Okinawa when Coronet was serious so he gets 2 US Divs (93rd/97th), 12th PI Div and maybe 6 or 7 Indpt Regts to contain North PI freeing up 6th Army for Coronet and 8th for Olympic.
 
This is literally months of work and a lot of guesswork
 
I am going to assume 6th and 8th stage out of the PI

[minnowguy]

My copy of _Downfall_ is at work.  Will see if I can find info in there and post tomorrow.

[minnowguy]

Sigh.  Typed in the table from p. 40 of Giangreco and then immediately found it reproduced on the second page of this pdf: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/890254/Operation-Downfall-The-Devil-Was-in-the-Details

I didn't find a lot more OOB details for the Allied side in _Hell to Pay_.  Don -- please let me know if there is anywhere else I should be looking ...

[Andy Mac]

Thanks that matches my other source for the US Army OOB I wil just make up the supporting units
 
Upgrading and changindg the start location of c 10000 ships will slow me down a lot

[Blackhorse]

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

Thanks that matches my other source for the US Army OOB I wil just make up the supporting units

Upgrading and changindg the start location of c 10000 ships will slow me down a lot

Andy,

When I researched the US OOB for AE, I didn't find any corps/army tank, arty, etc. battalions slated to go from Europe to the PTO, except what you see in the game (although many of the arty units were consolidated into the various "Corps Artillery"). All the indep't bns in game should be available to support the Sixth, Eighth, and First armies for Downfall.

[rjopel]

I thought Terminus was working on Downfall?

[Andy Mac]

na I think it dies about a year ago so out of curiosity I started working on it.
 
whether I will ever finish it I don't know
 
I more or less have the US Army structure sorted.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

[Andy Mac]

I am trying to reduce the number of units in play to keep it semi reasonable so Corps Arty units rather than Indpt Bns etc etc
 
I may even do all air units as Groups rather than Sqns for the Allies just to keep it within the bounds of sanity.
 
I have most of the allied ships in sorta the right place at sorta the right time with sorta the right refit
 
Most but not all of the allied LCU's are now done I just need to review commanders, exp, TOE etc etc
 
About 50% of the allied ships are done but I haventeven touched on splitting the 3rd, 5th and 7th Fleet ships yet or even working out which subs are at sea or where the merchantment are on day 1 etc etc.
 
Air I am dreading and have not even started yet

[Mac Linehan]

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

I am trying to reduce the number of units in play to keep it semi reasonable so Corps Arty units rather than Indpt Bns etc etc

I may even do all air units as Groups rather than Sqns for the Allies just to keep it within the bounds of sanity.

I have most of the allied ships in sorta the right place at sorta the right time with sorta the right refit

Most but not all of the allied LCU's are now done I just need to review commanders, exp, TOE etc etc

About 50% of the allied ships are done but I haventeven touched on splitting the 3rd, 5th and 7th Fleet ships yet or even working out which subs are at sea or where the merchantment are on day 1 etc etc.

Air I am dreading and have not even started yet

Any Mac -

You know you love it, and so do we....<GRIN>

Mac

[Andy Mac]

I dont think the scne will work with active China and Soviets so I may need to get creative.
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USAAF is more or less done, Marines, USN and IJAAF,IJNAF I am putting off a few weeks until I can face it
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[Blackhorse]

. . . and I'm sure you won't forget Tiger Force or the Commonwealth Corps.

[chesmart]

We want Downfall !

Andy if you do Downfall I will send you my copy ofthe book by Frank.

[Andy Mac]

I am trying but its a lot of data to adjust its actually nasty to do.
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I have most of the LCU's in sorta thwe right place for the allies but the japanese are a total pain
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I dont know if I will ever finish it as its seriously a lot of work.
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[Andy Mac]

Because I need to keep the russians and chinese out of it it gets quite nasty for the allies I may need to adjust OOB a little
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