OT - WWII quiz

[Neilster]

ORIGINAL: Greyshaft

1. I am a high ranking officer.
2. During a high-level conference in the middle of WWII one of the people at the conference drew his gun and deliberately fired it.
3. I was hit by the bullet but survived.
4. The pistol shot was meant as a demonstration.
5. The demonstration was successful except that the bullet was not meant to hit me.
6. Those British Boffins are crazy!!!

Commander James Bond. The boffin was Q. [:'(]

Cheers, Neilster

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Extraneous

ORIGINAL: warspite1

[4310 Bahia - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine output: 18,000 hp
.B Top Speed: 26.5 knots
.B Main armament: 10 x 4.7-inch (120mm), 6 x 3-pdr (47mm) guns
.B Displacement (standard): 3,100 tons
.B Thickest armour: No belt armour
.P As part of the Brazilian naval expansion program in the early years of the
20th Century (see Minas Gerais and Sao Paulo), the Brazilian Government ordered
two cruisers in 1907.
.P The two ships of the Bahia-class, Bahia and Rio Grande Do Sul, were designed
and built in the United Kingdom and were based on the Royal Navy`s scout cruisers
of the Adventure-class. They were each named after a Brazilian State.
.P As scout cruisers, these ships were fast and lightly armoured vessels and both
ships exceeded their designed speed in trials.
.P They saw service in the First world War, after which, in the twenties, they
had replacement machinery fitted that further improved their top speed. The ships
remained in service long enough to take an active part in World War II after the
Brazilian declaration of war on Germany in August 1942.
.P During the war the Bahia-class ships were mostly used to escort merchant
vessels in the South Atlantic. The war was almost over when, on the 4th July 1945
while operating in the South Atlantic, the Bahia suffered an internal explosion
causing her to quickly sink with the loss of 294 officers and crew.
.P Her sister survived the war and was scrapped in 1948.

Hope you give credit to Wikipedia for your source of reference to the Brazilian cruiser Bahia.

Warspite1

Why do you hope that? I use a number of sources for the write-ups (depending upon how important a unit is, availability of info, what actions she took part in etc). Wikipedia is certainly not my primary source of info, for obvious reasons, and it was not my source of info for Bahia; Conways was. And yes, of course, the bibliography for the naval units will list the sources.

[Extraneous]

Warspite1

Why do you hope that? I use a number of sources for the write-ups (depending upon how important a unit is, availability of info, what actions she took part in etc). Wikipedia is certainly not my primary source of info, for obvious reasons, and it was not my source of info for Bahia; Conways was. And yes, of course, the bibliography for the naval units will list the sources.

If you would do a web search for: Bahia Adventure-class

You get Wikipedia who reference their source as...

Gardiner, Robert; Gray, Randal, eds (1984). Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships: 1906–1921. Annapolis: Naval Institute Press. ISBN 0870219073. OCLC 12119866

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Extraneous

Warspite1

Why do you hope that? I use a number of sources for the write-ups (depending upon how important a unit is, availability of info, what actions she took part in etc). Wikipedia is certainly not my primary source of info, for obvious reasons, and it was not my source of info for Bahia; Conways was. And yes, of course, the bibliography for the naval units will list the sources.

If you would do a web search for: Bahia Adventure-class

You get Wikipedia who reference their source as...

Gardiner, Robert; Gray, Randal, eds (1984). Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships: 1906–1921. Annapolis: Naval Institute Press. ISBN 0870219073. OCLC 12119866

Warspite1

Exactly, Conways - and as I said, that's where my info came from - not Wikipedia.

[Greyshaft]

1. I am a high ranking officer.
2. During a high-level conference in the middle of WWII one of the people at the conference drew his gun and deliberately fired it.
3. I was hit by the bullet but survived.
4. The pistol shot was meant as a demonstration.
5. The demonstration was successful except that the bullet was not meant to hit me.
6. Those British Boffins are crazy!!!
7. The pistol shot bounced off a mixture of sawdust and water (just sawdust and water - no other additives) ...
8. ... which the Boffin suggested could be used to build an aircraft carrier (I am NOT making this up!!!) ...
9. ... and the USA used his theory to build a 1,000 ton test ship during WWII.
10 Lord Mountbatten endorsed the project.

[Neilster]

ORIGINAL: Greyshaft

1. I am a high ranking officer.
2. During a high-level conference in the middle of WWII one of the people at the conference drew his gun and deliberately fired it.
3. I was hit by the bullet but survived.
4. The pistol shot was meant as a demonstration.
5. The demonstration was successful except that the bullet was not meant to hit me.
6. Those British Boffins are crazy!!!
7. The pistol shot bounced off a mixture of sawdust and water (just sawdust and water - no other additives) ...
8. ... which the Boffin suggested could be used to build an aircraft carrier (I am NOT making this up!!!) ...
9. ... and the USA used his theory to build a 1,000 ton test ship during WWII.
10 Lord Mountbatten endorsed the project.

Didn't this happen twice? It refers to demonstrations of Pykrete as part of Project Habakkuk. I think Admiral King had a near miss and Brooke either got lightly wounded or the bullet didn't penetrate. From memory the incidents aren't completely clear. Pykrete was obviously dangerous stuff [;)]

Cheers, Neilster

[Greyshaft]

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pykrete

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"Pykrete is a composite material made of approximately 14 percent sawdust or some other form of wood pulp (such as paper) and 86 percent ice by weight. Its use was proposed during World War II by Geoffrey Pyke to the British Royal Navy as a candidate material for making a huge, unsinkable aircraft carrier. Pykrete has some interesting properties, notably its relatively slow melting rate (due to low thermal conductivity), and its vastly improved strength and toughness over unmodified (crystalline) ice, actually closer to concrete.

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Another tale is that at the Quebec Conference of 1943 Mountbatten brought a block of pykrete along to demonstrate its potential to the entourage of admirals and generals who had come along with Winston Churchill and Franklin D. Roosevelt. Mountbatten entered the project meeting with two blocks and placed them on the ground. One was a normal ice block and the other was pykrete. He then drew his service pistol and shot at the first block. It shattered and splintered. Next, he fired at the pykrete to give an idea of the resistance of that kind of ice to projectiles. The bullet ricocheted off the block, grazing the trouser leg of Admiral Ernest King and ending up in the wall. The Admiral may or may not have been impressed by Mountbatten's unorthodox demonstration. According to Perutz's own account,[7] however, the incident of a ricochetting bullet hitting an Admiral actually happened much earlier in London and the gun was fired by someone on the project—not Mountbatten."

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I was thinking of Brooke, but there are many stories about Who shot Whom at the Quebec Conference.

Over to you Neilster for a question

[Patience]

From Jane's Fighting Ships 1938

[ItBurns]

You know, there's an eclectic beauty in the designs of pre WWI ships. They are so wonderfully baroque.

[Patience]

Yes they are, I remember when i was younger i was mesmerized by the look of dreadnoughts 

[warspite1]

Okay - first two clues from a new Which ship am I? question:

I appear as a counter in World In Flames, but a case could be made for having two (However this is not because I was transferred between two navies)

I saw service during both World War I and World War II

[Shannon V. OKeets]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Okay - first two clues from a new Which ship am I? question:

I appear as a counter in World In Flames, but a case could be made for having two (However this is not because I was transferred between two navies)

I saw service during both World War I and World War II

The Queens?

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Okay - first two clues from a new Which ship am I? question:

I appear as a counter in World In Flames, but a case could be made for having two (However this is not because I was transferred between two navies)

I saw service during both World War I and World War II

The Queens?

Warspite1

Not the Queens - but I like your thinking.

Next clue:

I originally had three sisters, but by the start of WWII I only had two.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Okay - first two clues from a new Which ship am I? question:

I appear as a counter in World In Flames, but a case could be made for having two (However this is not because I was transferred between two navies)

I saw service during both World War I and World War II

The Queens?

Warspite1

Not the Queens - but I like your thinking.

Next clue:

I originally had three sisters, but by the start of WWII I only had two.

Warspite1

Penultimate clue:

During my lifetime I fought against:

Russians
British
Finnish
Germans

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets



The Queens?

Warspite1

Not the Queens - but I like your thinking.

Next clue:

I originally had three sisters, but by the start of WWII I only had two.

Warspite1

Penultimate clue:

During my lifetime I fought against:

Russians
British
Finnish
Germans

Edit: Awesome. [&o] After spending some time pulling my hair in frustration it is time for me to enter the bunker and ponder on this.

[ItBurns]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets



The Queens?

Warspite1

Not the Queens - but I like your thinking.

Next clue:

I originally had three sisters, but by the start of WWII I only had two.

Warspite1

Penultimate clue:

During my lifetime I fought against:

Russians
British
Finnish
Germans

Ok, with the penultimate clue I'm going to narrow it down to a Russian ship that the Reds siezed during the Russian civil war. It would have fought agains the White Russians (Czarists) and perhaps the British when they landed at Archangle (I know bad spelling) then in WWII of course the Finns and Germans.

I am fairly ignorant of the details of the military side of the Russian civil was so without resorting to wiki or google I'm going to guess that its either the Marat or the Oktober Revolution. Flipping a coin it comes up Marat as my final answer.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: ItBurns

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: warspite1


Warspite1

Not the Queens - but I like your thinking.

Next clue:

I originally had three sisters, but by the start of WWII I only had two.

Warspite1

Penultimate clue:

During my lifetime I fought against:

Russians
British
Finnish
Germans

Ok, with the penultimate clue I'm going to narrow it down to a Russian ship that the Reds siezed during the Russian civil war. It would have fought agains the White Russians (Czarists) and perhaps the British when they landed at Archangle (I know bad spelling) then in WWII of course the Finns and Germans.

I am fairly ignorant of the details of the military side of the Russian civil was so without resorting to wiki or google I'm going to guess that its either the Marat or the Oktober Revolution. Flipping a coin it comes up Marat as my final answer.

Warspite1

Top man Mr Burns!![:)]

The final clue - was to have been - I continued to fight the enemy even after being sunk.

With typical Russian resourcefulness, she was used as a stationary battery after she had been sunk in shallow water at Leningrad

Marat had her name changed (again) in 1943, hence the reference to two counters.

[warspite1]

Okay - something slightly different:

What ship am I? (not that different [;)])

I an NOT represented by an individual counter in World In Flames, although my vessel type is represented
I saw service in WWII, having just missed out on WWI

[zeal4u]

I'll take a shot in the dark, how about the French Submarine Surcouf ?

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: zeal4u

I'll take a shot in the dark, how about the French Submarine Surcouf ?

Warspite1

No - not Surcouf.

Third clue:

I failed to survive WWII and my loss came during a famous episode.