Interesting part of this year's Victory Day parade in Moscow was the presence of US and British troops. Wonder what the REAL reaction in the Russian people was to this, as opposed to the one reported by lazy Western media?
I read one comment from a Russian veteran, who said he had no problem with the presence of foreigners in Red Square. "I don't know any Americans, but I was quite happy to eat their sausages at the front".
When did the today's Moscow parade start?
When I woke up at 9:00 AM CET it was already over (it was 11:00 AM Moscow time)... [&:]
Something elso also very appropriate for today! [:)]
One of the most beloved Russian WWII poems... I think I first read it about 30+ years ago...
Konstantin Simonov
(to to Valentina Serova, written in 1941)
"Wait for me"
Wait for me, and I'll come back!
Wait with all you've got!
Wait, when dreary yellow rains
Tell you, you should not.
Wait when snow is falling fast,
Wait when summer's hot,
Wait when yesterdays are past,
Others are forgot.
Wait, when from that far-off place,
Letters don't arrive.
Wait, when those with whom you wait
Doubt if I'm alive.
Wait for me, and I'll come back!
Wait in patience yet
When they tell you off by heart
That you should forget.
Even when my dearest ones
Say that I am lost,
Even when my friends give up,
Sit and count the cost,
Drink a glass of bitter wine
To the fallen friend -
Wait! And do not drink with them!
Wait until the end!
Wait for me and I'll come back,
Dodging every fate!
"What a bit of luck!" they'll say,
Those that would not wait.
They will never understand
How amidst the strife,
By your waiting for me, dear,
You had saved my life.
Only you and I will know
How you got me through.
Simply - you knew how to wait -
No one else but you.
ORIGINAL: thegreatwent
My ex-wife used to sing that on occasion. But then she was a young pioneer[X(]
Maybe so. I know the words too. Philosophy is a hateful thing to fight over. But I guess it's the best thing we have, since about the 700s.
And then Columbus discovered America, and colonialization grew and exploded, and all we are left with is philosophy as as a conflict spark.
Me; there's philosophical enemys I hate from the bottom of my heart. Never felt that towards the Sovs, probably because they felt the same way, and they were, by golly dammit, professionals. And they know who the real enemy is.
Interesting part of this year's Victory Day parade in Moscow was the presence of US and British troops. Wonder what the REAL reaction in the Russian people was to this, as opposed to the one reported by lazy Western media?
I read one comment from a Russian veteran, who said he had no problem with the presence of foreigners in Red Square. "I don't know any Americans, but I was quite happy to eat their sausages at the front".
From the tidbits I've heard over the years, that is a very common feeling from most of the "common folk" who are on different sides of a fence. I've read the same type of things quoted from Iranian civilians. I'd be willing to bet that the average US citizen would have a slightly less "carefree" attitude about Russian/Iranian/North Korean/etc citizens, due to the overly large impact the media has on typical US people.
I would have been proud to march along side Russian soldiers and sailors in a Victory Day parade if the chance had been there when I was active duty.
One of my friends was on leave from Pendleton around May 9th one year. I saw the reaction it produced in people of the war generation when they saw him, in his Marine duds next to his grandfather, who had medals from shoulder to belly button. I swear some of the old soldiers had tears in their eyes. I guess it was one of those things.....
"Mighty is the Thread! Great are its works and insane are its inhabitants!" -Brother Mynok
Interesting part of this year's Victory Day parade in Moscow was the presence of US and British troops. Wonder what the REAL reaction in the Russian people was to this, as opposed to the one reported by lazy Western media?
I read one comment from a Russian veteran, who said he had no problem with the presence of foreigners in Red Square. "I don't know any Americans, but I was quite happy to eat their sausages at the front".
To the best of my knowledge (from personal meetings with veterans, memoirs, etc) the average Russian had nothing against the average American. They appreciated the lend lease, but the long coming of the Second Front was an old and bitter joke for most. When the allies met on the Elbe, the Russians greeted the Americans as bothers in arms.
I have always thought it a shame that that attitude did not carry over to the higher echelons. I also once posted a picture with comments to that effect. As I recall, that was the first time I was called a Commie on this forum.
I meant Russian people of today.
Not sure I understand the question. [&:]
"Mighty is the Thread! Great are its works and insane are its inhabitants!" -Brother Mynok
Onime, a question. The Katyusha MRL was supposedly named for a popular song. Is this true, and if so, what's the name of this song?
Leo beat me to it. Yes, its very true. Katusha is diminutive for Katherine. The song itself is god knows how old, but as Leo posted, the gist of it is "while her beloved guards the nation, Katusha will guard their love".
Here's a link. I'm sure there are more "faithful" videos out there, but I just love the way these kids sing it (the way it's meant to be sung IMHO).
ORIGINAL: AW1Steve
PS....Someone called you a Commie? [X(][&:]
Yep. That was the time I ended up going to Mad Cow's to continue a topic not appropriate for the Matrix board.... [8|]
It was at MadCow's that somebody wrote a description of me that my sister dearly loves (and abuses me with whenever she gets the opportunity): bradkay - a commie pinko fag with sharp logic!
To the best of my knowledge (from personal meetings with veterans, memoirs, etc) the average Russian had nothing against the average American. They appreciated the lend lease, but the long coming of the Second Front was an old and bitter joke for most. When the allies met on the Elbe, the Russians greeted the Americans as bothers in arms.
I have always thought it a shame that that attitude did not carry over to the higher echelons. I also once posted a picture with comments to that effect. As I recall, that was the first time I was called a Commie on this forum.
I meant Russian people of today.
Not sure I understand the question. [&:]
What do Russian people of May 2010 think about American and other Western troops taking part in the Victory Day parade?
