Why? they are not stuck at counterint so you can freely change their mission.
ORIGINAL: Canute
Why? they are not stuck at counterint so you can freely change their mission.
Its just because you need to cancel Counter Intel. all the time when the come back from a Mission. Very annoying.
When you give them a break, like the same time the Tax get adjust at planets, you got time after you get the Msg. to assign them to another mission without canceling the Counter Intel.
ORIGINAL: Machaon
ORIGINAL: martok
Awesome! I'm very happy to see the issues regarding the supply ships not mining fuel have been fixed. I have to admit it was really bugging the crap out of me.
ORIGINAL: Machaon
Hey, I just had an extremely irritating issue (in 1.0.4.5) regarding a resupply ship. I deployed it at a planet where it was attacked by a kaltor. It defended itself, killing the kaltor, but not before it took one damaged component. Now, if I tell it to deploy, it immediately undeploys to go repair itself, rendering it useless. I scrapped it just because it pissed me off. I don't have 1.0.4.6 yet so I dunno if this is addressed. If it is, great; if not, fix it, because it's ridiculous.
This was actually a feature just implemented in 1.04 per players' request. Ships that are damaged will head to the nearest spaceport for repairs, and then resume their previous mission once repairs are complete.
Is this a serious post? Yeah, it was much requested, and it's even a good idea in general! I'll bet ya no one wants a resupply ship they just told to deploy to instantly undeploy to go across the galaxy to fix itself (which is exactly what was happening here)! Particularly when it's fully functional despite its damage!
The deploy/undeploy is just an example; I don't think any player would except the game canceling an order they just gave a unit to have it do something else. If I tell a ship to attack I expect it to attack the target until either it or the target no longer exist. If it still has functional weapons and can move, it better attack when I tell it to. Period. And a resupply ship on manual control I just told to deploy should not ever undeploy itself, ever.
Actually, I was under the impression that this whole auto-repair/refuel business was going to be toggleable on a ship-by-ship basis, similar to how automation is. Quite disappointed that it's not, as it has stepped on my toes more than once.
ORIGINAL: Machaon
You two act like I just suggested auto-repair be completely removed from the game, which I did not. If I deployed a resupply ship and it was suddenly gone when I needed it, I'd be PISSED. The fact that this would be acceptable to anyone is unfathomable to me. Maybe if you're using them in some other capacity besides as forward refuel points, then I could see how having them move about willy-nilly wouldn't matter. I, however, cannot accept my forward refuel points moving around. It can go repair itself after I've undeployed it or I've set it back to auto.
You know, thinking about this as I type it out, this situation is one that probably won't come up terribly often. Hmmm....I stand by what I say though.
Now that I've played the game more, I'm finding the auto-attack function irritating too. I mean they went from one extreme to the other. I think I prefer how it was before. Attacking a single ship of many with a fleet and then setting the fleet to auto, as Erik once suggested, worked fairly well. Now my ships are all over the place! They literally chase enemy ships from one system to another, but never my whole fleet. Instead, like three ships will chase it and get vaporized when they run into a space port. Five ships may break off from a fleet of 20 to attack a space port in the same system, while the other 15 just sit there. It's really weird and I don't like it.
Anyway, I'm not even sure this is on topic with the thread anymore so I'll just shut up now.
ORIGINAL: VarekRaith
ORIGINAL: Machaon
You two act like I just suggested auto-repair be completely removed from the game, which I did not. If I deployed a resupply ship and it was suddenly gone when I needed it, I'd be PISSED. The fact that this would be acceptable to anyone is unfathomable to me. Maybe if you're using them in some other capacity besides as forward refuel points, then I could see how having them move about willy-nilly wouldn't matter. I, however, cannot accept my forward refuel points moving around. It can go repair itself after I've undeployed it or I've set it back to auto.
You know, thinking about this as I type it out, this situation is one that probably won't come up terribly often. Hmmm....I stand by what I say though.
Now that I've played the game more, I'm finding the auto-attack function irritating too. I mean they went from one extreme to the other. I think I prefer how it was before. Attacking a single ship of many with a fleet and then setting the fleet to auto, as Erik once suggested, worked fairly well. Now my ships are all over the place! They literally chase enemy ships from one system to another, but never my whole fleet. Instead, like three ships will chase it and get vaporized when they run into a space port. Five ships may break off from a fleet of 20 to attack a space port in the same system, while the other 15 just sit there. It's really weird and I don't like it.
Anyway, I'm not even sure this is on topic with the thread anymore so I'll just shut up now.
The auto-attack on manually controlled ships is, indeed, irritating. If I wanted them to roam about the system blasting every enemy in sight, I'd put them on auto! They should only engage targets that engage them, or are within a very short (<1000) distance of their location. They should also return to their assigned position! It just seems that now it's pointless to use manual control for ships, since they act nearly the same as an autoed ship.
As to your resupply ship, I agree. Manual means manual. It's more than annoying to have the AI override the orders of ships I want to control manually. We need options for us microers that don't like the AI overriding manually given orders.
ORIGINAL: Machaon
You two act like I just suggested auto-repair be completely removed from the game, which I did not. If I deployed a resupply ship and it was suddenly gone when I needed it, I'd be PISSED. The fact that this would be acceptable to anyone is unfathomable to me. Maybe if you're using them in some other capacity besides as forward refuel points, then I could see how having them move about willy-nilly wouldn't matter. I, however, cannot accept my forward refuel points moving around. It can go repair itself after I've undeployed it or I've set it back to auto.
You know, thinking about this as I type it out, this situation is one that probably won't come up terribly often. Hmmm....I stand by what I say though.
Now that I've played the game more, I'm finding the auto-attack function irritating too. I mean they went from one extreme to the other. I think I prefer how it was before. Attacking a single ship of many with a fleet and then setting the fleet to auto, as Erik once suggested, worked fairly well. Now my ships are all over the place! They literally chase enemy ships from one system to another, but never my whole fleet. Instead, like three ships will chase it and get vaporized when they run into a space port. Five ships may break off from a fleet of 20 to attack a space port in the same system, while the other 15 just sit there. It's really weird and I don't like it.
Anyway, I'm not even sure this is on topic with the thread anymore so I'll just shut up now.
ORIGINAL: cmdrnarrain
I've just about had it with the game. Sheez, war is just about impossible. You got to fix the problem with half your empire rebeling everytime you use either bombardment or the planet destroyer. I mean come on, I got a base on every planet, using the Way of Darkness, taxes are low, completely Human worlds, and still my empire splits in half after destroying one world and bombarding another. I even waited 10 years inbetween and did it to different empires.
This is just plain stupid. Christ, even my capital rebeled. The games got hundreds of world, if an alien pisses me off I want to exterminate them, not collect even more worlds by invasion.
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ORIGINAL: Shark7
ORIGINAL: VarekRaith
ORIGINAL: Machaon
You two act like I just suggested auto-repair be completely removed from the game, which I did not. If I deployed a resupply ship and it was suddenly gone when I needed it, I'd be PISSED. The fact that this would be acceptable to anyone is unfathomable to me. Maybe if you're using them in some other capacity besides as forward refuel points, then I could see how having them move about willy-nilly wouldn't matter. I, however, cannot accept my forward refuel points moving around. It can go repair itself after I've undeployed it or I've set it back to auto.
You know, thinking about this as I type it out, this situation is one that probably won't come up terribly often. Hmmm....I stand by what I say though.
Now that I've played the game more, I'm finding the auto-attack function irritating too. I mean they went from one extreme to the other. I think I prefer how it was before. Attacking a single ship of many with a fleet and then setting the fleet to auto, as Erik once suggested, worked fairly well. Now my ships are all over the place! They literally chase enemy ships from one system to another, but never my whole fleet. Instead, like three ships will chase it and get vaporized when they run into a space port. Five ships may break off from a fleet of 20 to attack a space port in the same system, while the other 15 just sit there. It's really weird and I don't like it.
Anyway, I'm not even sure this is on topic with the thread anymore so I'll just shut up now.
The auto-attack on manually controlled ships is, indeed, irritating. If I wanted them to roam about the system blasting every enemy in sight, I'd put them on auto! They should only engage targets that engage them, or are within a very short (<1000) distance of their location. They should also return to their assigned position! It just seems that now it's pointless to use manual control for ships, since they act nearly the same as an autoed ship.
As to your resupply ship, I agree. Manual means manual. It's more than annoying to have the AI override the orders of ships I want to control manually. We need options for us microers that don't like the AI overriding manually given orders.
You do realize leaving the war and attack decisions on manual prevents this, right? They will still attack anything that is threatening one of your ships/planets/bases, but they will not go on the offensive. Never let the AI handle diplomacy or war, its fine for the mundane, tedious stuff, but not for stuff that requires your attention.
This is something I have noticed, and it needs to be fixed.I have to agree with this. I much preferred the micromanagement hell to the way it is now. I was trying to invade a planet, the troop transports got to the system, I told them to invade, and they turned around and went off to be refueled. This was the first moment I truly felt frustrated with the game.
ORIGINAL: VarekRaith
ORIGINAL: Shark7
ORIGINAL: VarekRaith
The auto-attack on manually controlled ships is, indeed, irritating. If I wanted them to roam about the system blasting every enemy in sight, I'd put them on auto! They should only engage targets that engage them, or are within a very short (<1000) distance of their location. They should also return to their assigned position! It just seems that now it's pointless to use manual control for ships, since they act nearly the same as an autoed ship.
As to your resupply ship, I agree. Manual means manual. It's more than annoying to have the AI override the orders of ships I want to control manually. We need options for us microers that don't like the AI overriding manually given orders.
You do realize leaving the war and attack decisions on manual prevents this, right? They will still attack anything that is threatening one of your ships/planets/bases, but they will not go on the offensive. Never let the AI handle diplomacy or war, its fine for the mundane, tedious stuff, but not for stuff that requires your attention.
No, it doesn't. I've been playing with Automation set Expert since the game came out. Ships will auto-attack anything in the system they are in, regardless of the orders I give them. I don't want them to go after anything, they're on manual for that very reason!
I just tested this. I sent a lone destroyer, on manual, to a system with a pirate base. Said ship is on the other side of the system from the pirate base. Said ship attacks base, getting itself killed.
