Payback - jzanes (A) vs. Rader (J). A Rader-free zone.

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RE: Payback - jzanes (A) vs. Rader (J). A Rader-free zone.

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(September 17-22, 1942 con’t)

My Chinese forces have just about entered the fray. The Chinese airforce is based at Yenan to provide some (minimal) support to my ground forces. A few squadrons of japanese planes would likely wipe out the Chinese but with all the activity across the map, I’m hoping he doesn’t have any airpower to spare to take on the Chinese.


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RE: Payback - jzanes (A) vs. Rader (J). A Rader-free zone.

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(September 17-22, 1942 con’t)

So far so good in Burma. Heavy bombers and fighters based out of Chittagong are doing some real damage vs. the enemy. I will continue to bomb and sweep everything I can reach and draw off as much japanese airpower as possible. I am slowly gathering troops and ships at Colombo for a possible invasion of Port Blair. I really need to suppress Rader’s airfields first though. With just one CV and CVL Hermes, the british just don’t have enough carrier fighters to fight off mass netty attacks.

Here’s how the air offensive has gone lately;

9/17-18: Heavies hit Port Blair and destroy several Betty bombers and Dinah recon planes.

9/19-20: The heavies return to Port Blair and lose 5 planes fighting thru the Oscar CAP. They destroy at least 20 Oscars and other planes on the ground.

9/21-22: Hurricane recon planes spot a large force of fighters flying over Magwe. I send in 100+ hurricanes to sweep the base followed by a heavy bomber raid on the oil facilities.
The first sweep of 16 planes runs into about 100 Oscars and zeroes flying CAP. They somehow manage to shoot down 6 oscars for 1 lost hurricane. A good result but I was afraid this was just the first of a long line of one squadron sized sweeps running into the massive CAP. However, I was pleasantly surprised when the next sweep was made up of over 100 fighters. For once, a good coordination result. This sweep really did some damage. For the turn, the japanese lose an estimated 45 oscars and 17 zeroes in A2A while the British lose 8 hurricanes. I suspect the enemy losses are inflated but still a very good day for the RAF.
The heavy bombers then came in and bombed the oil centers. In a previous post, I questioned how much FOW there is in strategic bombing. At that point, I had reportedly gotten 20 some hits on the Magwe oil centers but they were shown as undamaged [301(0)]. However, in the next turn or two, that numbered changed to something like 250(50) after a couple more recon flights. After this most recent raid it’s shown as something like 220(80).

9/23-24 (next turn): Recon reports an even larger fighter force at Magwe. I will take up the challenge and sweep Magwe once again. As I mentioned earlier, the british actually have a fairly decent pile of hurricanes in the pool (something like 200) and I want to see if I continue to get good results with these sweeps. For the record, I’ve been sending the hurricanes in at max altitude (35,000’+). I don’t think that altitude is the key factor in A2A (as some have argued) but it definitely helps. I also have the sweep bonus, decent planes, at least equal odds, and good-excellent pilot quality in my favor. I’m probably also helped by having a very large airbase (level 9), with tons of air support, and an air HQ in the hex. On the downside, the combat power of my hurricanes is probably reduced due to having to use drop tanks to reach Magwe.
Meanwhile, the heavies are scheduled to hit the Rangoon refinery centers. Recon shows no planes at this base currently.


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RE: Payback - jzanes (A) vs. Rader (J). A Rader-free zone.

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September 23-30, 1942

Well another month has come to an end and the allies can look back on September as the month that they started to fight back vs. the bad guys. The Chinese have reached and taken some of their objectives in the north and the british continue to harass the japanese in Burma.

Other than the continuation of these two ops, October will probably be a month to build up and upgrade the American CVs. I may begin to build up Adak Island in the Aleutians and I will continue to build up Exmouth on the north Australian coast. I may grab Port Hedland if it looks empty.

Here’s the latest scoreboard;


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RE: Payback - jzanes (A) vs. Rader (J). A Rader-free zone.

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(September 23-30, 1942 con’t)

Russian Front:

The japanese have overrun Blagovychensk and Kuibyshevka. We enacted a new house rule forbidding the use of “pursue” when a pursuit would lead a unit to cross a river. He did this at Kuibyshevka and this allowed his units to get across the river to Svobodny without having to shock attack. I find this very gamey but didn’t lose my cool and Rader quickly agreed to a house rule to keep it from happening again.

My main force has successfully pulled out of Svobodny before getting routed. I will try to dig in and slowly withdraw towards Skovordino without getting surrounded or routed. Unfortunately, 1200 AV has been cutoff south of the river without hope of breaking out to the north. I’ve noted that he has just a bunch of artillery and AA units in the hexes south of me though and have decided to turn around these cutoff troops and head south towards Birobidzhan. These troops still have full supply and I just might be able to raise some heck before they die.

At Mishan, I have cut the rail to the west and have been pounding away at the base. I’ve been getting 1:2 odds and have lost about 13,000 troops to the japanese 8,000 losses. I’m bringing forward another 500 AV, will rest a few days, and then try again. No signs of any japanese reinforcements coming down the road.

In the north, the enemy pounds away at the border fort outside Borzya. It’s held him up for a week but should be destroyed soon. My bombers hit his stack moving towards the fort but suffered 20-some losses to AA (my blunder, I knew that stack was flak heavy but forgot about it) and have pulled back to lick their wounds in the north.


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RE: Payback - jzanes (A) vs. Rader (J). A Rader-free zone.

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(September 23-30, 1942 con’t)

China:

Looks like my plan has worked well. He moved troops to block my first and second attacks but failed to spot or react to my third (main) attack until I had reached and taken Paotow and Kweisui. My force is now moving to take Tatung and then Kalgan if I can. The soviet tank bde is moving to block the rail line before he can bring in heavy reinforcements. I only see one japanese unit at Tatung and 2 at Kalgan.

I bombarded at Changsha and noted that he has about 1200 AV in the hex. I’m gonna try a deliberate attack next turn with my 3300 AV. I don’t imagine I’ll break thru but I’m curious to see how the Chinese do and whether they can inflict some decent casualties.

The Chinese airforce is flying small bomb raids and fighter sweeps in support of my main attack. A squadron or two of japanese bombers have been flying missions in the area and my LR CAP has shot down a few. He’ll probably move in some fighters soon which should help to spread around his limited fighter strength.


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RE: Payback - jzanes (A) vs. Rader (J). A Rader-free zone.

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(September 23-30, 1942 con’t)

Burma:

The weather has been awful and has limited my air ops. I’ve still sent a few more mass sweeps vs. Magwe and done well (about 120 japanese fighters destroyed vs. 35 hurricanes lost). I also hit the Rangoon oil refinery (7 hits). It was guarded by 20-some Tojo’s but they failed to shoot down any heavies. Once the weather clears I plan to hit Magwe hard. I’ve moved in 6 squadrons of P40s (E’s and K’s) to help out the hurricanes. The first squadron of british liberators has also arrived.

Having noted that other players have had success with overland attacks on japanese held Burma, I’ve started to prep several divisions for Shwebo.


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RE: Payback - jzanes (A) vs. Rader (J). A Rader-free zone.

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(September 23-30, 1942 con’t)

Australia/South Pacific:

The Australians have landed at Exmouth and are rapidly building up the port, airfield, and forts. Sigint informed me of a japanese AMC (“radio call sign of AMC blah blah maru detected at X,X”) prowling off Perth and 2 New Zealand CLs with DDs found and sank it. Otherwise, no other signs of japanese activity. I suspect he doesn’t even know I’ve landed at Exmouth.

The American CVs successfully escort a large convoy to Suva and are now heading back to Pearl for their October upgrades. Another large convoy is forming up at SanFran and will leave port within another turn or two.

The first two American CVEs have arrived. They are both of the “replacement group” type and have reached Pearl. They will start following the American CVs around to replace air losses.


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RE: Payback - jzanes (A) vs. Rader (J). A Rader-free zone.

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October 1-8, 1942

Russian Front:

Svobodny falls but my main force successfully withdrawals without being routed. I’ve brought up about 1,000 AV from the Borzya area and hope to be able to hold and slowly pull back towards Skovordino. They are opposed by a massive stack of over 6,000 japanese AV.

I gave up trying to grab Mishan after one last deliberate attack. I only got low 1:2 odds (1632 adjusted SU AV vs. 4208 adjusted japanese AV) and heavy casualties (7285 SU vs. 3813 japanese losses). My force will pull back to Rybolov and lick their wounds.

The japanese have 14 units advancing on Okha (Sakhalin Island). I have about 660 AV at this city. The MBR float planes have been occasionally flying naval attack missions and have even sunk a handful of AKs. They use only 100 Kg bombs but seem to get lots of hits.

In the north, the japanese finished off the fort outside Borzya but have now pulled their force back to the rail north of Hailar. I have an “expendable” NKVD Rgt blocking the rail south of the city. It is withdrawn in 20-some days and will harass the rail line as long as possible.


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RE: Payback - jzanes (A) vs. Rader (J). A Rader-free zone.

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(October 1-8, 1942 con’t)

China:

The main attack continues to make progress. The Chinese routed the 1 unit guarding Tatung and are advancing on Kalgan (5 units of unknown type/size). I will keep going until he stops me. The SU tank bde is moving to cut the rail line into Kalgan.

There have been some minor air skirmishes with the Chinese losing maybe 10 fighters and shooting down at least that many japanese planes.

I’ve decided to concentrate some Sian-area reserves and open up a new offensive in one of the forest hexes SE of Sian. The japanese have 3 units (bde sized I believe) in the hex and I hope to be able to concentrate close to 2,000 AV vs. them. It’ll be a couple weeks till everyone arrives and we’ll see if I can break thru.

The Chinese did deliberate attacks at Changsha. They surprisingly got 1:1 odds on the first attack (3464 adjusted AV vs. 2535 adjusted japanese AV) but only 1:2 odds on the second attack. He’s since moved in more forces and I haven’t repeated my attack.


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RE: Payback - jzanes (A) vs. Rader (J). A Rader-free zone.

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(October 1-8, 1942 con’t)

Burma:

Well I definitely have drawn off plenty of fighters from the Soviet theatre. I kill another 120 or so fighters over this 8 day period and there are still several hundred more around Magwe.

On the 3rd and 4th, the japanese sweep Chittagong and follow up with 60-ish bombers. The sweeps get chewed up (80 japanese losses vs. 37 allied fighters lost), fail to chase away my fighters, and the bombers are badly chopped up (47 bombers shot down). He destroys one or two planes on the ground and does some minor damage to the airfield which is quickly fixed by the engineers.

On the 5th and 6th I strike back. My sweeps clear away the japanese fighters but take some heavy losses (47 allied fighters lost vs. 36 japanese fighters shot down). Medium bombers from Diamond Harbour hit the airfield (moderate damage and 10-ish planes destroyed on the ground) while the heavies hit the oil facilities. The oil center is down to 100 working and 200 damaged.

All in all a good result for the allies. However, the hurricane pool is starting to get low. I’m going to take a break and rebuild the pool for a while. I’ll keep up a nice CAP over Chittagong in case Rader tries another raid.


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(October 1-8, 1942 con’t)

Australia/South Pacific:

All quiet on this front. Exmouth reaches a 1 port and 1 airfield. I’m going to start flying recon of Port Hedland and consider whether it’s time to try to grab it.

The American CVs are just about back to Pearl Harbour. They will rest in port for 3 weeks while they get their 10/42 upgrades. In the meantime, a large convoy has left SanFran loaded up with troops, planes, supply, and lots of fuel. Once this convoy arrives and the CVs return to the Fiji area, I should be ready to consider an attack on New Caledonia and the Hebrides. I estimate mid-November as the earliest this will happen.

So far my recon suggests there are 3 key japanese bases in the New Caledonia/New Hebrides area. Of course, Noumea is the key with a large port and airfield. Nearby La Foa appears to be a “backup” airfield and Luganville has a large garrison and big airfield.

I’m considering 4 plans of attack;

1. Koumac looks empty. Land here and drive to Noumea.
2. Efate/Tanna looks empty. Land here, suppress the nearby japanese bases and then jump ahead to Luganville or New Caledonia.
3. Land directly on Luganville, take it, and try to flank New Caledonia.
4. Land directly on Noumea and get in and out of the “danger” zone quickly.

What do you guys think?


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RE: Payback - jzanes (A) vs. Rader (J). A Rader-free zone.

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October 9-18, 1942

Russia (southern area):

The japanese have reached Okha and commenced their attack. So far they’ve gotten only 1:2 odds but have been whittling down the fort (5 to 3 so far).

My cutoff force continues to wander thru the woods trying to escape south. I’ve just about reached the road and have yet to see a force capable of stopping me.

You may recall that I gave up my attack on Mishan and moved my troops back towards Rybolov. The 1,000 AV of armored forces arrived first and I decided to go ahead and send them against one of the forts further south near Yenki. This worked very well and they destroyed the fort in 2 days and they are about to grab Yenki. Japanese reinforcements are on the way but not close yet. The armor will penetrate as far as possible while several divisions of infantry are following up. This may be the last gasp for my Vladivostok forces as Rader’s airfield attacks have pretty much destroyed my supply dumps and all the southern cities are in the “yellow” or “red” for supply.


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(October 9-18, 1942 con’t)

Russia (northern area):

After giving one shot at attacking (1:3 odds and 14,000 casualties vs. 2,300 for the Russians), the japanese are marching away from my Skovordino blocking force. I suspect they’ve decided they need to stop my breakthrough further south and end the Chinese offensive.

The japanese have done the same further north in the Borzya-Hailar area. Their army has returned to Hailar and now that the rail is clear, I anticipate much of this force heading to stop me on the other fronts.

My forces have retaken Choybalsan and various smallish armored and cavalry units will advance as far as he lets me in the hinterlands.


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(October 9-18, 1942 con’t)

China:

I’ve continued my advance to Kalgan but all signs suggest the japanese have solidified a line around this city. I’ll bombard next turn and see who’s present in the city and then decide whether it’s time to attack or pull back to a defensible line of my own.

The japanese have brought up Zeroes and started ripping up the Chinese airforce. I’ve pulled my air back to Sian to rest and prepare for aiding my next offensive. The japanese also hit Chungking and shot up the heavy industry and airfield but destroyed no planes on the ground. I pulled my training squadrons back to Chengtu and put up some CAP.

My troops are just about in position to open up my new offensive in the forests south east of Sian. There are 3 or 4 japanese units in the target hex and I’m going to bombard to see who I’m up against. I already did a “bombard recon” of the larger stack in the adjacent hex on the road to Nanyang and saw that I’m up against 1,200 AV (vs. my 2,500 AV). I may attack to keep this force pinned. I doubt I’ll be able to break thru without a 3:1 or more AV advantage.


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(October 9-18, 1942 con’t)

Western Allies:

It’s been fairly quiet on the rest of the map. The british continue to hit secondary targets in Burma with their heavy bombers. Targets include the Rangoon refineries, Prome airfield, Port Blair airfield, and Bangkok heavy industry. I’ve avoided the primary target (Magwe oil facilities) as recon shows hundreds of japanese fighters in the hex. That is fine as my main goal all along was to draw off fighters from Russia. About 3,000 AV is prepping for northern Burmese bases. I’ll have to pay PPs to “buy” most of this though and that’ll take months at 1,000+ points for an Indian division.

The Australians and Americans continue to build up. The American fleet is safely in port with the carriers and several battleships ½ way thru with their upgrades. A large convoy is about ½ way to Suva and currently near Christmas Island. No sign of any surface raiders or the japanese carriers.


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October 19-November 1, 1942

Two weeks have passed and we’ve entered a new month. More action in Russia and China and very quiet over the rest of the map. In November, I plan to move the American carriers to the south seas. They will escort a large troop convoy to Australia (via New Zealand) and then return to Fiji to prep for the invasion of New Caledonia/New Hebrides.

Here’s the latest scoreboard;



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(October 19-November 1, 1942)

Russia:

Rader did a good job railing reinforcements into Yenki and stopped me from grabbing the city. I’ve left a blocking force there and moved my remaining force to the south and grabbed Rashin. My troops are now moving to Seishin and will try to break thru this city. However, japanese forces are starting to arrive and may block any further penetrations. I’ll keep trying to harass the japanese regardless and tie down his troops as long as possible.

Further north, my cutoff 1400 AV is just about across the river. They are a long way from safety but will continue to wander towards the Vladivostok area until Rader stops me. The japanese tried attacking this stack with an armor heavy 500 AV but suffered heavy losses and got poor odds. They haven’t tried since but are marching up more troops.

This adventure illustrates a difference in our tactics. Rader seems to prefer to gather all his forces into one hex and try to punch thru any defenses. This leaves him with gaps in his lines and poor rear area defense. My preference is to maintain a continuous line and protect my flanks. I hate chasing units around because they aren’t “pinned”. Of course, this means my “main attack” is not as strong as it could be.

In other Russian front news, Okha falls and Sakhalin Island is now fully japanese. In the north, my various small armored/cavalry forces recapture Tamsag and Yugodzyr. Elements are now approaching Linshi.


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(October 19-November 1, 1942 con't)

China:

The Chinese offensives have lost steam and it’s time to redeploy and hunker down. Despite gathering 2000 AV, the attack SE of Sian never got close to breaking thru and those forces will move back to their start points defending the approaches to Sian.

I came very close to capturing Kalgan but the japanese held on long enough to bring forward reserves. He’s now counterattacking north of the city and my forces are pulling back. I got hit by a “follow unit” problem that I’ve noticed several times before. My Kalgan army was following the slowest unit (an artillery unit) as they pulled out to the west. Last turn, the artillery unit arrived but all the other units stayed put and had their move “reset” (they all are at 0 miles moved). I suspect this has something to do with following an artillery unit and will make sure to only follow big infantry units in the future. Anyways, now my troops are moving at best speed to the west to try to get to safety before the japanese counterattack cuts them off.


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November 2-25, 1942

A busy month in RL which has delayed an update on the game. Overall, November has been a poor month for the good guys with my offensives running out of steam and the japanese making some nice moves of their own.

Russia:

- Most of the remaining soviet airforce has moved to India via China. There wasn’t enough planes left in Russia to do much and instead I’ll use them to supplement the western airforces.
- My troops in the Vladivostok area are running out of supply and despite my attempts, cannot find a way to break out of the pocket.
- My cutoff force along the river has been cornered and is wasting away.
- My armored forces in northern china are pulling back as the japanese move forces to block them and the Chinese offensive in the region comes to an end.
- The japanese have moved on Borzya in force and gotten 1:1 odds on two deliberate attacks despite heavy losses (20,000 japanese casualties vs. 8000 soviet losses). They’ve also pushed several tank regiments over the river to the flank of Borzya. I’m going to pull out of the city and try to hold along the river or pull back to Chita if necessary. My skovordino blocking force is also going to pull back to the Chita area. Basically, I’m going to surrender everything south of Chita to the enemy.


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(November 2-25, 1942 con’t)

China:

The japanese have counterattacked in the north and the Chinese are in retreat. Rader’s forces blocked the road to the north so I decided to send my main force down the mountainous road to the south with the aim of linking up with my force besieging Taiyuan. So far so good and I think I’ve surprised Rader with this move. I don’t anticipate capturing this city but feel there’s a good chance I’ll be able to get most of my troops back to my “safe” area before they are destroyed.

Rader smashed the Yenan and Sian airfields and destroyed around 30 planes on the ground. The rest of the Chinese airforce is pulling back to their homefields around Chengtu. Rader has pretty much destroyed the heavy industry at Chungking. The Chinese supply situation will be even worse in the months and years to come.

One bright spot is that I routed a japanese brigade that advanced into one of my forest hexes SE of Sian. We’ve returned to the status quo along the road to Sian.


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