OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

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(DAR) 4th army and 3rd PzA joined after very hard fighting. This was a must before the rain falls. This will shorten my line this winter so I can group my power...Hoth and Schmidt are poised to roll also...And of course Kleist is lurking...Oh then theres Model, stay tuned...

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Please provide a ss of the rail network when you get a chance.
 
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It looks like the Germans will be having Christmas in Moscow. I hope comrade Stalin is on the train to Gorky. That would make a good song. Instead of last train to Clarkesville, it could be last train to Gorky. [:)]
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(DAR) Hoth and Schmidt opened up, losses were heavy agian, but the postion is beautifull...I have 2 large pockets now...Oh and I have rail repair over the Moskva river now...

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There are still 3 rail lines that supply Moscow, it will be interesting to see whether you can cut them. As I had guessed earlier, the North-East one seems like it will be the final and thus crucial one.
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Jon - after those two pockets South of Moscow are reduced, will you be able to redeploy the during the Raputitisa or will this be pretty much the front line for the next 3 or 4 weeks?   If you are able to redeploy, then you are going to be in a very strong position come the frosts.

Two more enormous losses to the Russian OOB (plus Kleist's pocket), and a great position for your two Pz armies, but I remain most concerned to see Model's progress.    Loss of the Tot. must mean a shortening of the line up there (and a greater risk of a counter?)

And still there's no sign of the armour reserves!   What's your air recon. showing you to the NE of Hoth?

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Stuart Im not really sure about the pockets yet. I think I'll starve them for 2 weeks then hit them. The mud makes combat so hard, but I need those units in the rear free for the attack on Moscow...I figure a 6 week attack in November/December then its time for the flex defense...However if I bust it open, I got to jump thru it...
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Model expanded his bridgehead lead by Vietinghoff's XXXXVI PzC. I'm just waiting for the frost now...

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Alot has been said about Tot SS moving west... Armin's PzC is not going anywhere. Remember his job is to guard Model's flank, and protect this rail junction...

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And with an attack combat value of 13, it brings tears to yer eyes!

Overall, your lines are looking very straight, smart and orderly - although I am unclear why you are defending in front of the river line to the North East of Lake Seliger?

Any chance - now that thoughts of the defence are starting to emerge - that you could post a couple of SS's with the German Defence Values displayed?

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Kleist had one last push. After taking down the pocket he blasted another hole to cut the east-west rail line. The 502nd PzB is now attached to 16th PzD and is just sending Soviet units to the rear...I may have over extended here with rain coming, but I had to do it...

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Voroshilvgrad has turned into a nightmare. I have had counter-attack after counter-attack here and looks to be secure for the Soviets. OKH really wanted the city before the fall rains...

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...and the Rumanians out of the front line - but you have always been a risk taker![;)]
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Those Romanians have pretty decent attack strengths in the screenshot.
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I think they are sitting on German units.
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The Rum divisions have been in the rear training and have hit the front with a loaded TOE. There ready for battle. I had to pull my other battered Rum units off the line, can't count on them...Rain fell, so I'm going to run thru the turns until frost hits...Ok heres a ss of a Rum division so you get an idea...

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Wow! - you are good - I need more PM's from you telling me how to beat Don - or at least delay him for a few more turns.
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Thanks(!!) PD, this is getting good and you seem to have quite a following by now! If possible (subject to NDAs & personal time-constraints of course - read:WAF ;), could you please try to write a few words about the more low-level tactical considerations you have for a screenshot, as clearly some of this is not well understood by your fans :)

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- artillery/airstrikes/friendly equipment upgrades, are you using this before punching holes
- supply (!!), you seem to venture with attacking units a long way from friendly/converted RRs - and they still survive...
- choice of defensive positions, sometimes you position units or the front line where we cannot understand why
- How you are handling/micromanaging RR repair units
- How you are handling/balancing SU partisan/saboteur damage and if this affects your steamrolling

Thanks in advance and keep it up :) !!
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A rambling thought: 

The rail line that Kleist has just cut is the last in the area for many miles to the North (you have to go as far as Murom).     But from the East the Russians can simply supply overland, around your PzG Division, can't they?   So the Russians are not much worse off in terms of supply than Kleist's own forward units.    My assumption is that the mud will make the supply situation much worse for both of them?  

So I'm still trying to work out why the wide swing to the North East rather than cutting straight up to the Oka?   I am all the time thinking of massing the armour to support Hoth for the final push on Moscow, but maybe that is not the best option.   I know that this is a much more threatening jump off point for another, even larger encirclement when the frosts come, but surely there will be a new front facing you by then?    Ahhh, I see it now - still drawing the reserves and replacements away from the main Moscow front.  

(And this is where I disagree with Flavius about the AI) the Russian 'player' must respond to Kleist or risk losing another army to encirclement on both banks of the Oka.   We'll see.... 

All this is assuming that Kleist's panzers are in supply and remain so when the mud comes.

Good to see the strong Rumanian divisions down South - the Russians, I believe, always rated the Rumanian infantryman as a solid (defensive) fighter.    They just lacked the heavy weapons to hold off the Russian armour.
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Is this AAR delayed due to the code upgrade mentioned in the 1943 AAR?
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