BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac

[crsutton]

ORIGINAL: PzB

Yes I can do so, the 33rd Div is routed but it's still in relatively ok shape.
It's being loaded on multiple transports and fast transports to get out of dodge within 2 days.

The way CAP works now is that a certain number of fighters is on patrol with more standing by and more on ready state.
Given 48 minute to intercept a strike the fighters on patrol will be joined by stand by fighters and eventually ready state fighters as the battle progress.
- So when Andy had 50 fighters on CAP he only had 17 airborne when the battle began.

The problem from my point of view is that our escort fighters don't manage to engage the enemy fighters that scramble late, so despite of fighting of 20+ Wildcats
the last 30 would just slip past completely and massacre our fragile Nells.

But this does make sense as many of them will be low or out of ammo after a running fight with the wildcats. The game does take ammo into consideration and fatique as well. That is your zeros might have worked up some fatigue fighting the fighters which affected the die rolls later in combat. Not really sure how it works though so I am just speculating.

[witpqs]

Many or most would be out of position too.

[CapAndGown]

ORIGINAL: crsutton

ORIGINAL: PzB

Yes I can do so, the 33rd Div is routed but it's still in relatively ok shape.
It's being loaded on multiple transports and fast transports to get out of dodge within 2 days.

The way CAP works now is that a certain number of fighters is on patrol with more standing by and more on ready state.
Given 48 minute to intercept a strike the fighters on patrol will be joined by stand by fighters and eventually ready state fighters as the battle progress.
- So when Andy had 50 fighters on CAP he only had 17 airborne when the battle began.

The problem from my point of view is that our escort fighters don't manage to engage the enemy fighters that scramble late, so despite of fighting of 20+ Wildcats
the last 30 would just slip past completely and massacre our fragile Nells.

But this does make sense as many of them will be low or out of ammo after a running fight with the wildcats. The game does take ammo into consideration and fatique as well. That is your zeros might have worked up some fatigue fighting the fighters which affected the die rolls later in combat. Not really sure how it works though so I am just speculating.

If you read through the combat report where it tell you the number of planes in the air, standby, etc. you will see that a certain number of planes are vectored onto the bombers. I don't think this has to do with late arrival, rather, at the start of combat it would seem that a decision has already been made that some CAP fighters are going direct for the bombers. Probably related to the number of CAP vs Escorts.

[PzB74]

In general A2A combat is still too bloody at times. In real life packets of strike planes very often managed to slip through the CAP for one
or more reasons;
Radar failure
Failure to coordinate fighter intercepts between radar ops, fighter ops and squadrons
Clouds concealing a few bombers
etc etc

In AE it seems like these options are not considered and radar is uberwhelmingly precise and accurate.
My suggestion is that during each strike the would be a % chance based on factors like weather and pilot skill that a packet of attack ac will be able to evade the CAP and
strike the targets. Something is definetly needed because it's still a massacre out there.

Relatively quiet turn; that means no major happenings beyond the usual bomber runs.

In Zone 3 our transports are getting away, few signs of enemy surface ships, naval bombers or subs! [:)]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 05, 42

Sub - ASW Attacks

Our subs try to get into position but the opposition is strong!

ASW attack near Palmyra at 170,133

Japanese Ships
SS RO-60, hits 3

Allied Ships
CL Perth
DD Pakenham
DD Bulmer
DD Alden
DD Dewey
DD Grayson
DD La Triomphant
DD Kilty
DD Crane
DD Kennison

SS RO-60 is sighted by escort
DD La Triomphant fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kilty fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Crane fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kennison attacking submerged sub ....
DD Kennison loses contact with SS RO-60
SS RO-60 eludes DD Kennison by hugging bottom
SS RO-60 eludes ASW attack from DD Kennison
DD Kilty fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kennison fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kennison fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kennison attacking submerged sub ....
DD Kennison cannot reach attack position over SS RO-60
DD Kennison attacking submerged sub ....
SS RO-60 eludes ASW attack from DD Kennison
DD Kennison cannot reach attack position over SS RO-60
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Palmyra at 170,133

Japanese Ships
SS RO-60, hits 15

Allied Ships
PC Jackson
AMC Hector
AM Matai
APD Little
APD Manley
AP William Ward Burrows
AP President Hayes
AP President Jackson
AP Henderson
AP Barnett
AP McCawley
AP Hunter Liggett
AP Hugh L. Scott
AP Zeilin
AK Procyon
AK Arcturus
AK Alcyon
AK Algorab
AK Betelgeuse
AK Libra
xAP Devonshire
DD Schley
DD Chew
DD John D. Edwards
KV Chilliwack

SS RO-60 is sighted by escort
DD Schley fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Chew fails to find sub and abandons search
DD John D. Edwards fails to find sub and abandons search
KV Chilliwack attacking submerged sub ....
DD Schley fails to find sub and abandons search
KV Chilliwack fails to find sub, continues to search...
KV Chilliwack fails to find sub, continues to search...
KV Chilliwack attacking submerged sub ....
KV Chilliwack fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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Ah, had hoped we would nail this large merch!

Submarine attack near San Francisco at 217,71

Japanese Ships
SS I-15

Allied Ships
xAK Red Jacket


xAK Red Jacket is sighted by SS I-15
SS I-15 launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Red Jacket
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Air Combat

We drub the Chinese stumbling back towards their bases after a most unpleasent picnic!
Many ac usually don't inflict as many casualties as several smaller packets and multiple strikes.

Morning Air attack on 56th Chinese Corps, at 80,54
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 25
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 25
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 9
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 10
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 18
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 12
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 7 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 15 damaged
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 3 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 4 damaged

Allied ground losses:
232 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 55 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Also attacking 93rd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 25th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 72nd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 70th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 72nd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 13th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 90th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 93rd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 72nd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 70th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 93rd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 72nd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 70th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 56th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 25th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 70th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 90th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 93rd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 72nd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 93rd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 72nd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 70th Chinese Corps ...
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Morning Air attack on 90th Chinese Corps, at 80,54
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 3 damaged

Allied ground losses:
139 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 7000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 88th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 90th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 88th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 90th Chinese Corps ...
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Afternoon Air attack on 56th Chinese Corps, at 80,54
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 10 damaged

Allied ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 192nd Tank Battalion, at 84,143
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 7 damaged

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Another heavy air strike on Palmyra. Must be eating away strike supplies on Allied cvs.

Morning Air attack on Palmyra , at 170,133
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Albacore I x 11
Martlet II x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 42
SBD-3 Dauntless x 118
TBF-1 Avenger x 34

Allied aircraft losses
Albacore I: 1 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 5 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
240 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Port supply hits 1
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Morning Air attack on 114th Infantry Regiment, at 92,144 (Townsville)
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3
F4F-4 Wildcat x 12

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Naval bombers try to go after our transports retiring from the area, but they go in unescorted in dribs
and drabs and are easily picked of.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Cairns at 92,140
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 20

Allied aircraft
TBF-1 Avenger x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 2 destroyed

CAP engaged:
24th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (8 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(12 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 14000 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Cairns at 92,140
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 19

Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 4 destroyed

CAP engaged:
24th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (8 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 14000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cairns at 92,140
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 19

Allied aircraft
TBF-1 Avenger x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 2 destroyed

CAP engaged:
24th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (7 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 14000 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Palmyra (170,133)
Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3874 troops, 50 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 124
Defending force 6390 troops, 188 guns, 107 vehicles, Assault Value = 175

Japanese ground losses:
105 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
56th Infantry Regiment
Sasebo 6th SNLF
17th Naval Construction Battalion
1st JNAF AF Unit
57th JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
9th Marine Regiment
21st Marine Regiment
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Line Islands

As assumed Andy does not launch another attack on Palmyra this turn.
Shock attacking more than once without resting is usually considered very unhealthy.
Pretty sure there will be an attack tomorrow though.

What annoys me is that my troops on Palmyra autobombard each turn. Guess Andy is unloading another fragment or so.
This cost us 100 casualties each time - wish I could turn this option off!!!! [:(]

[PzB74]

Evacuation from Zone 3

[PzB74]

Another intense turn!

We capture Liuchow in China, opening the door to the interior.
Plan here is to show up with a larger army around Changsa and then push around the flanks and rear.

At Palmyra the marines shock attack again and despite renewed air and sea bombardments only a 1-2 odds is achieved.
I can't see how the current invasion force can capture Palmyra, Andy needs a second wave and the clock is ticking.
- The KB is slicing water and getting closer every day.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 06, 42

Bombardments

Andy sends the rest of his big guys to bombard Palmyra.
- Now he will have to send all his capital ships back to Pearl to replenish.
Our grunts take another pounding though, not so many combat troops are hurt but disruption soars again.

Night Naval bombardment of Palmyra at 170,133

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
H6K4 Mavis: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
BB South Dakota
BB Washington
BB North Carolina
CA Louisville
CA Chester
CA Houston
CA Northampton
CA Indianapolis

Japanese ground losses:
264 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 13 disabled

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 58
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 1

BB South Dakota firing at Palmyra
BB Washington firing at Palmyra
BB North Carolina firing at 1st JNAF AF Unit
CA Louisville firing at 1st JNAF AF Unit
CA Chester firing at Palmyra
CA Houston firing at Palmyra
CA Northampton firing at 56th Infantry Regiment
CA Indianapolis firing at Palmyra
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Air Combat

I ordered all Nell bombers (ca 34) to attack at 14k feet and 42 Zero fighters
were ordered to escort to Palmyra at this altitude. 9 Betties and 3 Kates were ordered to
attack at 9k feet and I set 9 Zero's to escort to Palmyra at this altitude.

What happens?

In the AM phase all Nell, Betties and Kates attack alone without a single escort...
Losses are very high of course. It shouldn't be this difficult to escort bombers with fighters
from the same base, the losses are always crippling and out of whack.

In the PM phase a small group of Nells (12) attacks again, this time all 45 Zero's escort them, but
morale is so poor and as soon as a single hit is scored by one of the remaining CAP fighters the rest
of the Nells turn around just as they are getting into attack position. This is of course what they should
have done last turn when escorts didn't turn up.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Palmyra at 170,13
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 12

Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 15
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 4 destroyed

CAP engaged:
No.881 Sqn FAA with Martlet II (1 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
VMF-122 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Palmyra at 170,133
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 51 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 3

Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 13
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
VMF-122 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
No.881 Sqn FAA with Martlet II (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Palmyra , at 170,133
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
Albacore I x 11
Martlet II x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 64
SBD-3 Dauntless x 117
TBF-1 Avenger x 10

Allied aircraft losses
Albacore I: 1 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
149 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Palmyra at 170,133
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 42 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 4

Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 11
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed

CAP engaged:
VMF-122 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
No.881 Sqn FAA with Martlet II (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Palm Island at 93,142

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
A6M2-N Rufe x 5
B5N2 Kate x 6

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Ic x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Ic: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Helm
DD Gwin

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
No.30 Sqn RAAF with Beaufighter Ic (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 21500
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
No.31 Sqn RAAF with Beaufighter Ic (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 21500
Raid is overhead
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Palmyra at 170,133
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 47 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 45
G3M2 Nell x 12

Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 27
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Martlet II: 2 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
No.881 Sqn FAA with Martlet II (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 13 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
VMF-122 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 9 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Liuchow (74,55)
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 24306 troops, 182 guns, 226 vehicles, Assault Value = 925
Defending force 7802 troops, 69 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 129

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 705
Allied adjusted defense: 63

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Liuchow !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
158 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
3298 casualties reported
Squads: 93 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 162 destroyed, 63 disabled
Engineers: 28 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (7 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 6

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
104th Division
12th Tank Regiment
12th Ind.Mixed Brigade
51st Recon Regiment
116th/A Division

Defending units:
6th Chinese Corps
9th Group Army
7th Chinese Base Force
4th War Area
16th Group Army
13th Chinese Base Force
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Ground combat at Palmyra (170,133)
Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3719 troops, 50 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 114
Defending force 6469 troops, 188 guns, 107 vehicles, Assault Value = 186

Japanese ground losses:
46 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
56th Infantry Regiment
Sasebo 6th SNLF
1st JNAF AF Unit
17th Naval Construction Battalion
57th JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
9th Marine Regiment
21st Marine Regiment
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Ground combat at Cloncurry (84,142)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 365 troops, 3 guns, 99 vehicles, Assault Value = 32
Defending force 1681 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 72

Allied adjusted assault: 12
Japanese adjusted defense: 81

Allied assault odds: 1 to 6 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender:
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
192nd Tank Battalion

Defending units:
Yokosuka Assault SNLF--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Look at the casualties; 788 for Japan and 411 for US; compare them with the units destroyed
and disabled. A lot more US units are reported destroyed and disabled and I simply don't understand
why Jap casualties are reported to be higher?

Ground combat at Palmyra (170,133)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 6469 troops, 188 guns, 107 vehicles, Assault Value = 186
Defending force 5402 troops, 73 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 109

Allied adjusted assault: 47
Japanese adjusted defense: 104
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
788 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 13 disabled

Allied ground losses:
411 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 37 disabled
Non Combat: 24 destroyed, 50 disabled
Engineers: 12 destroyed, 22 disabled
Vehicles lost 30 (6 destroyed, 24 disabled)

Assaulting units:
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
9th Marine Regiment
21st Marine Regiment

Defending units:
56th Infantry Regiment
Sasebo 6th SNLF
17th Naval Construction Battalion
1st JNAF AF Unit
57th JNAF AF Unit
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Ground combat at Hughenden (88,145)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 3137 troops, 16 guns, 279 vehicles, Assault Value = 146
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 136
Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 136 to 1 (fort level 2)
Allied forces CAPTURE Hughenden !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
4th Aus Cav Brigade---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

One way raid....

We lost a lot of bombers today; the 22 or so remaining Nells will be moved out and replaced with a fresh unit.
More fighters and less bombers is on the menu!

[PzB74]

Troop and base status: Line Islands

Down to 90 ac on Christmas Island; will rotate out the Nells and bring in a fresh 27 ac unit.
Also got 27 fresh Zero's on Canton. Need 2 or 3-1 in escorts to give the bombers a fighting chance.

Palmyra is obliterated; we still have 5.5k supplies left and 87 AV.
Everything has been halved in other words. The good thing is that Andy has spent most of his firecrackers.
- His ground troops are worn down and his ships have expended their shells.

I expect renewed air attacks and a break tomorrow.
Alternatively Andy will start loading his troops tomorrow; either to land wave 2 if it exists, or to retire.

You can also see the status of our main defensive unit; the 56th inf regiment.
Morale is still high, 98! Fatigue is also low, most likely due to the heavy fortifications. Disruption is back up to 82
and the number of guns and squads is dropping.

The 56th will be sent to Tokyo for 2 months if they can win the battle [&o]

[janh]

ORIGINAL: PzB
In general A2A combat is still too bloody at times. In real life packets of strike planes very often managed to slip through the CAP for one
or more reasons;
Radar failure

I wonder how radar is modeled in-game, or more particularly how it is affected by atmospheric conditions. Radar is by no means "indifferent" to weather, though most modern radar systems now employ frequency bands in the THz range that less prone to absorption/atmospheric scattering/extinction effects. In WW2 the bands used were much lower in frequency and often affected strongly by weather conditions: range reduction and increase of the background noise, i.e. bad signal to noise. And at that time there were no digital signal filters to improve the image on the oscilloscope of the operator. Unfortunately most games entirely ignore this. How about AE?

[krupp_88mm]

In WW2 the bands used were much lower in frequency and often affected strongly by weather conditions: range reduction and increase of the background noise, i.e. bad signal to noise.

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[PzB74]

Yes, I think radar should be more unreliable but that's one of the uber weapons that the Allies have in their favor.
Air battle nevertheless is too bloody. In another game I shot down 25 Blenheims today, they just kept on coming and went down in flames.
- In real life such a thing most likely never happened.

KB is 5 days from Palmyra...wonder if Andy will pack his bags and retire soon.
- He needs a 2-3 days head start with his transports and 1-2 days with his slow battlewagons.
That means he has to make a decision this turn, will take him 2 days to load his shattered marine regiments.
Did he only plan on attacking Palmyra, that's a doomed adventure with Xmas Island looming nearby.


A quick look at Burma!

[PzB74]

This is a WitP Tracker overview of sunk ships ranked by point value.
- There are some sinkings I wasn't aware of here.

I've asked about this before; I never received a message that the Hornet was torpedoed and sunk on September first 1942.
As you can remember she took 2 torps at PH.

Is it possible that another sub finished her off and that she sank enroute to the West Coast for repairs?

[PzB74]

List over all sunk ships

Notice that 32 Allied tankers have been lost vs 1 Jap as well as 10 fleet oilers to 1.
That's a 42 to 2 ratio in sunk tankers.

We have lost only 4 subs while 20 Allied subs have been sunk.
Also notice that we have lost 20 out of 21 midget subs; ALL have been failures.
I've launched 14 in another game, all failures as well.

This is much much lower than in reality; a 15% success rate would be more realistic.

[CapAndGown]

The reason Hornet shows up on the sunk ships list is most likely because as she was being moved back to the West Coast for repairs, here flotation damage went up. I was getting all kinds or reports of BBs being sunk in the months after Pearl Harbor. This was because witpqs was moving them back the west coast and at some point during their voyage their float damage increased. This would be valuable intelligence if you could exploit it in a timely manner since it give you the approximate current location of the ship. Mostly, however, the location is too far away to make use of unless you already have subs patrolling in the area.

[PzB74]

Hm thx! So that's how it works.
I thought intel was only provided when a friendly vessels reported a sighting or attack.
A flooding increase in an Allied vessel isn't something you can find out.

Does anyone know if it's possible to plot all enemy ships that have been sunk on the map.
Would have been very interesting to plot convoy lanes.

In this game these are the prime hunting grounds for Jap subs:

1. Indian Ocean; area between Ceylon and south of Bombay
2. Pacific Ocean between PH and West Coast
3. Area around Perth

I get very few sightings and attacks in other areas.
Does anyone have tips for were to strike gold? [;)]

One last question:
When heavy radio transmissions are interecepted, does this mean that there are;
a) Many ships in the reported area
b) Capital ships in the reported area
c) a Combination of a and b

[PzB74]

No new turns tonight so I've looked into how to organize offensive and defensive operations.
- Here is an overview strat map of the Empire as of October 1942 divided into zones.





Zones:

1. Home Islands
2. Philippines
3. Marianas sector
4. Sakhalin area
5. China (Not including Manchukuo as a war zone as of today)
6. Wake Sector
7. South West Asia
8. SRA
9. Australia
10. New Guinea and Solomons
11. Gilberts and Marshalls
12. Line Islands
13. Zone 3 (being evacuated)

We are already engaged in zones 5, 7, 13 and 12.
The only threats as of today are in zone 7 (Burma area) and in 9 (Australia).
These are land combat zones, most others require amphibious landings but many areas can be invaded
with the aid of LBA.

[khyberbill]

a) Many ships in the reported area
b) Capital ships in the reported area
c) a Combination of a and b

yes. i suspect that the number of ships is perhaps more important than the type. i have seen heavy radio traffic associated with invasions that did not have any capital ships in them.

[PzB74]

Hm, yes and therefore it's difficult to make anything out of these "heavy transmissions" messages.

A very interesting turn!!! [:)]

Multiple sub and surface engagement, A2A combat and naval air attacks!

Andy has re-embarked his first invasion wave at Palmyra.
The question now is whether a second wave will be landed or if the enemy invasion force will withdraw.

2 enemy TF of 1-3 ships were spotted and attacked by KB search planes near the Gilberts today, giving away
their position. I should have decreased search plane range. So Andy knows exactly what's coming for him and after
we have shot down 30-40 of his carrier fighters I'm 88% certain that he will withdraw towards PH.

The KB has refuelled again with a fast replenishment group, both streaking east. Very elegant! [:)]
We are still 3 days sailing from Palmyra though. I've detached the 2 light carriers, the slow us down (7/4 instead of 8/4 speed).
- Both TFs continue on a course that will interdict enemy shipping east of Johnston Island in 5-6 days.

In Oz Townsville is recaptured and only a small rearguard has been left behind.
A very successful evacuation in other words and most troops are now streaming to our rear bases.

Andy offered to hold back operations in the air for some days some turn ago.
I declined the gracious offer and said he should strike me with what he got. Fortunately Charters could not be opened
and our defensive postures worked well. Despite the delay at Rockhampton we managed to get away; the only setback was the routing
of 1 division, 1 regiment and a tank regiment.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 07, 42

Sub Attacks

Sub attack near Palmyra at 170,131

Japanese Ships
SS I-34

Allied Ships
DD Buchanan
CA Quincy
CLAA Juneau
CLAA Atlanta
DD Gansevoort
DD McCalla
DD Lardner
DD Lansdowne

SS I-34 launches 6 torpedoes at DD Buchanan
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Aaahhh, we go the Enterprise in our sights and fire 6 torps at her.
Lucky E escapes again [:(]

Sub attack near Palmyra at 170,131

Japanese Ships
SS I-34

Allied Ships
CV Enterprise
CA New Orleans
CA Chicago
CL Nashville
CLAA San Juan
DD Sterett
DD Farragut
DD Balch
DD Selfridge
DD Porter

SS I-34 launches 6 torpedoes at CV Enterprise
I-34 diving deep ....
DD Farragut fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Balch fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Selfridge fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Porter fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Selfridge attacking submerged sub ....
DD Selfridge attacking submerged sub ....
DD Selfridge fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Selfridge fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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This merchant probably just escaped our surface raiders but was then found by the I-123!
We also hit a merchant in a huge WC - PH convoy.

Submarine attack near Colombo at 28,48

Japanese Ships
SS I-123

Allied Ships
xAK Nicholas van Vonn, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

xAK Nicholas van Vonn is sighted by SS I-123
SS I-123 launches 4 torpedoes
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ASW attack near Palmyra at 170,131
Japanese Ships
SS I-34, hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Sterett
CA New Orleans
CA Chicago
CL Nashville
CLAA San Juan
DD Farragut
DD Balch
DD Selfridge
DD Porter

SS I-34 launches 6 torpedoes at DD Sterett
I-34 diving deep ....
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Sub attack near Lahaina at 189,102

Japanese Ships
SS I-159, hits 1

Allied Ships
xAK Forbes Hauptmann, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DMS Dorsey
DMS Hopkins
DMS Hovey
AG Regulus
AO Kaskaskia
AO Ramapo
AO Neches
AK Almaack
TK Hadnot
TK Pat Doheny
xAP Maui
xAP Santa Paula
xAP Monterey
xAP President Tyler
xAP President Fillmore
xAP St. Mihel
xAK Sea Fox
xAK West Portal
xAK Hollywood
xAK Admiral Williams
xAK Admiral Cole
xAK San Gabriel
xAK Mormacmar
xAK Olopana
xAK Makiki
xAK William Luckenbach
xAK J.L. Luckenbach
xAK Dorothy Luckenbach
xAK Ensley City
xAK Sagadahoc
xAK Missourian
xAK Canadian
xAKL Kailua
DD Clark
DD Hammann
DD Frazier

SS I-159 launches 8 torpedoes at xAK Forbes Hauptmann
I-159 diving deep ....
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Surface Combat

Knowing that all British surface units are in the Central Pacific I order a Naval Squadron to hang
around Ceylon. When ships were reported in the area they attacked. Just small fruits today, but ok.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Colombo at 29,48, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Furutaka
CL Isuzu
DD Michishio
DD Yamagumo
DD Minegumo

Allied Ships
HDML 1100, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
HDML 1101, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
HDML 1102, Shell hits 17, and is sunk
HDML 1103, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
HDML 1104, Shell hits 8, and is sunk

Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Allied TF begins to get underway
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Colombo at 29,48, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Furutaka
CL Isuzu
DD Michishio
DD Yamagumo
DD Minegumo

Allied Ships
ML No. 311, Shell hits 3, and is sunk

Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...
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A Palmyra we first engage 2 enemy destroyers that hardly fire back and quickly withdraws.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Palmyra at 170,133, Range 4,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Yubari
DD Natsushio
DD Yukikaze
DD Karii
DD Yamanagiri

Allied Ships
DD Lang
DD Hull
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Then we engage a carrier TF but it manage to escape...with that heavy escort I doubt
we could have achieved anything but I hoped for a torpedo attack.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Palmyra at 170,133, Range 26,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Yubari
DD Natsushio
DD Yukikaze
DD Karii
DD Yamanagiri

Allied Ships
CV Illustrious
CVE Long Island
BB Ramillies
CL Sumatra
CL Perth
DD Grayson
DD Dewey
DD MacDonough
DD Worden
DD Dale
DD Aylwin
DD Alden
DD Bulmer
DD Edsall
DD Inconstant
DD Napier
DD Pakenham
DD Dent
DD Crosby
DD Kennison
DD Crane
DD Kilty
DD La Triomphant

Reduced sighting due to 3% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 3% moonlight: 8,000 yards
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 16,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
Allied TF attempts to evade combat
Range increases to 9,000 yards...
Range increases to 10,000 yards...
Range increases to 11,000 yards...
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Range increases to 13,000 yards...
Range increases to 14,000 yards...
Range increases to 15,000 yards...
Range increases to 16,000 yards...
Range increases to 17,000 yards...
Range increases to 18,000 yards...
Range increases to 19,000 yards...
Range increases to 20,000 yards...
Range increases to 21,000 yards...
Range increases to 22,000 yards...
Range increases to 23,000 yards...
Range increases to 24,000 yards...
Range increases to 25,000 yards...
Range increases to 26,000 yards...
Range increases to 26,000 yards...
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Allied Air Combat TF evades combat
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Air Combat

We pick down a few Hurries over Burma.

Morning Air attack on Silchar , at 59,39
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 38

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIa Trop x 1
Hurricane IIb Trop x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIa Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
37 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet *
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I had hopes for our naval strikes against Palmyra today as our surface TF caused
some consternation among Allied TFs.

Used a very heavy escort today and 2 detachments of Zero's lost contact with the raid
and worked as sweepers. This was a good thing for once and we shot down a great many Wildcats and Martlets!

Morning Air attack on TF, near Palmyra at 170,133
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22

Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 7000 feet

CAP engaged:
VF-2 with F4F-4 Wildcat (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000
Raid is overhead
VF-3 with F4F-4 Wildcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
VF-8 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
VF-71 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
No.881 Sqn FAA with Martlet II (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
VMF-122 with F4F-4 Wildcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Palmyra at 170,133
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8

Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 1
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
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The strike is unfortunately just a 1/3 effort by the bombers.
In total there were 25 Nells and 9 Betties ordered to attack and only 15 launch and
they only succeed in sinking an old destroyer.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Palmyra at 170,133
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
G3M2 Nell x 12
G4M1 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 2 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
AP Thomas Jefferson
CA Portland
DD John D. Edwards, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 7000 feet
12 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
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A strong enemy air attack on Shwebo (a Burma forward base) is launched.

Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 42
Hudson IIIa x 27
Wellington Ic x 12
Hudson I x 12
Bolingbroke IV x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 7

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 70
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Ground Combat

Townsville is recaptured; a small contingent I couldn't evacuate made up the rearguard.

Ground combat at Townsville (92,144)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 2593 troops, 0 guns, 405 vehicles, Assault Value = 699
Defending force 159 troops, 1 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 3

Allied adjusted assault: 243
Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 243 to 1 (fort level 4)
Allied forces CAPTURE Townsville !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
166 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2/10th Armoured Regiment
2/5th Armoured Regiment
2/8th Armoured Regiment
2/6th Armoured Regiment
2/7th Armoured Regiment
2/9th Armoured Regiment
2/11th Armoured Car Battalion
3rd Motor Brigade
2/4th Armoured Regiment
10th Light Horse Battalion
2nd Recce Battalion
255th Armoured Brigade

Defending units:
1st Infantry Regiment
33rd Div /18
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Naval Engagement near Palmyra

[PzB74]

The KB's position is a give away.... :-\

[PzB74]

Strategic Sit Map: Line Island Operations

[PzB74]

Air Losses