UK 70th Div

[aprezto]

Hi;

Some clarity on the OOB of this unit if that's possible.

Attached is a screen shot of the UK 70th DIVISION.

the TOE switch has been switched on, that actual loadout being less.

Just wondering why it is so eneamic?

Wikipedia claims it was a unit re-designated from the UK 6th and 7th Divs.

[Andy Mac]

Thats only the Div assets the Bdes are seperately represented
 
i.e. 3 Field Coy's RE
3 Field Arty Regts
MG Bn etc etc
 
It was easier to do it this way as the 14th 16th and 23rd Bdes all convert to Chindits later on

[witpqs]

It is only the 'division level' stuff. The regiments/brigades are in the game separately. Something about IRL the division breaking up (disbanded) but the brigades remained independently (or some such). So you will see the division unit be withdrawn.

I think in DBB they discussed it with Andy and decided to handle it differently in that mod.

[Andy Mac]

Not sure how they did it in that mod its quite a nasty one if you set it to just disband and be replaced by the Bdes then all those devices go the pool = bad idea
 
Or if you set to totally withdraw also a bad idea as its then a wastable asset.
 
There is no right answer I went for the best representation I could which was Bdes changing to Chindit Bde Gps when the Div level assets withdraw

[witpqs]

I just remember you answering their questions about what was what. Not sure what it looks like.

Anyway our first posts crossed.

[aprezto]

i take it they can't all combine to give you a real division (no unit organisation option...)
 
Thanks for clearing it up.
 

[Rob Brennan UK]

Nice artillery TOE , I'd think of it as an arty unit with good support abilities over an actual inf division.

would make a great garrison unit for somewhere expecting japanese paratroopers [;)].

[Whisper]

ORIGINAL: witpqs
I just remember you answering their questions about what was what. Not sure what it looks like.

Anyway our first posts crossed.

In DBB the LRP columns are so different that a brigade name change for 14, 16, 23 Br, did not work so 70th division sub units can recombine to make a complete one. The whole division withdraws as type 1 on its withdraw date, no devices to pool, but at the same time a convoy dumps some of the original AT, AA and Arty ‘division level’ stuff into the pools to model their distribution to other units. The new 14, 16, 23 LRP brigades appear soon after with their new TOE.

[Andy Mac]

And that works as well the only issue with it is it makes the original 3 Bdes free issue

i.e. the allied player can send them to Burma for a glorious last stand and still get all the manpower and devices that they lose duplicated.

There is no right answer to this one - I went one way DBB went another they all have flaws