Something needs to be done about SPWAW

[Steely Glint]

ORIGINAL: osiris

Hi All

I really dont understand the thinking by Matrix because if a small company can reproduce WinSPWAW and Win MBT and that company collected about a $100+ from me it would make sense to upgrade the old games. If Matrix would refurbish and rebuild JTCS I would gladly give them $200 for it!!!! I just dont see that kind of thinking here.

Exactly. And that's the problem.

They have the best WWII tactical game here ever and they're just going to do nothing and let it rust out.

[Oldguard1970]

Hello WildBill,

Excellent news. You and your lady are in my prayers.

You earn special thanks from all of us who enjoy this fine game. Thanks for all of your work, and welcome back.

[Josh]

ORIGINAL: Wild Bill

This is a game in which I invested nearly 10 years of my life to develop and improve it. Without a doubt, it was worth every minute. For me it is the greatest tac-level game ever to see the light of day.

Now to see it slipping away is sad, very sad. But then I think of so many things in life and war that have slipped away with time. For me it is timeless, but then neither the game nor I are that. I began with scenario design and testing for the first Steel Panthers, back in when...1994? That was a long time ago! Since then, retirement from my work, divorce, remarriage and a lot of other things have transpired.

I hope someday another tactical level game of this caliber will appear. So far it has not. So like others, I'll keep an XP computer just for the game if nothing else. Hundreds of scenarios, campaigns and 3 mega campaigns later, and it is still my favorite. I think it is the only game I never tire of.

Thanks to all of you loyal SPWAW players! You kept me going at it even in the hardest of times.

Thanks for your efforts, this game sure has given me countless hours of gamefun... back in the nineties [:)]
And as you say, not a tactical game comes close. But it does show its age, well, like we are I guess [:D]

Good to hear you lady is recovering.

[Steely Glint]

A great wargame is rusting out here because no one will put any effort into updating it.

Color me very sad.

[Alby]

ORIGINAL: Steely Glint

A great wargame is rusting out here because no one will put any effort into updating it.

Color me very sad.

No one??
[;)]
ENHANCED

[junk2drive]

Great job Alby and team but it still doesn't change the OS problems and modern screen resolutions.

Sooner or later someone will make a clone. Been done with Panzer General.

[Krec]

i am still playing this baby 3-4 times a week online and loving every minute.  When and if its redone ,  the new version will have a steep hill to climb to over take this all time classic. To this day ,  everytime i am buying my force i get a rush that no other game gives me. Carefully deploying my forces, on the map ,  pre plotting my arty,  setting my airstrikes giving orders to my infiltrators wondering what kind of forces i will be facing this time ,  man I LOVE THIS GAME!!   Alby yor mod has givin me so much enjoyment i cant tell you.  the infantry is kickass the oob clean up is awesome.  thank you so much !!  

[Steely Glint]

ORIGINAL: junk2drive

Sooner or later someone will make a clone. Been done with Panzer General.

Hopefully sooner than later. I wish Matrix would do something.

[Arctic Blast]

The only thing that can really be 'done' at this point is a whole new game.

[V22 Osprey]

Let's face it, it's 2010, and SPWAW is starting to show it's age. Without active developers this game is pretty much doomed, as one day when tech advances far enough it won't run at all. I agree with JEB...WinSPWW2 will never touch SPWAW, however it is sad that tech and age is creeping up on good ole SPWAW....and fast.

I say we make a petition or donate and make fund to help matrix get the rights to Steel Panthers.

I admit though....I've moved on to JTCS...

[SS Hauptsturmfuhrer]

I don't see any problem with continuing to play the game as it is now, other than OS incompatibility. I like the custom made campaigns and scenarios cause they are scripted so well it is like battling a real human commander - unpredictable and challenging. I bet it is real good by email or hotseat too though never tried. Then there are those epic campaigns which are probably sweet too.

I best get back to my Korsun campaign. Aye been distracted by this and that for awhile but always wanted to get back to the mud and agony of that experience. Damn fine design it is, built like the Reichstag.

I reckon not to give up on this classic, especially with the ton of custom work that's been put into it.

[planner 3]

This topic comes up year after year, for the past 10 years, face it guys it isn't going to change. I also would love to see the old girl updated, but no plastic surgeon will do the job. Now the Botox genlemen have are working on lots of updates and different game versions, ie: Civil war, Korea, Nam etc., there still life in the old gal yet.

[Nikademus]

There's only one improvement i pine for.......seperate message delay settings for AFV combat and small weapons fire. Other than that I'm happy with the game. Will be giving "Enhanced" a spin if i can carve out some time to play.

[planner 3]

Nick....if you get the Enhanced Version, use the low Casualty (Lo Cas) settings, makes for a great game. Try it you"ll like it.

[tracer]

If MG would simply 'loan' us a programmer for a couple weeks, I'm confident that many of the changes/upgrades folks have been clamoring for could be accomplished.

If MG learned anything from the two SPWAW-successor projects* its that the game still has a large/loyal following, and also that it can count on community members who would step-up and assist them in any effort they make to improve the game.

So if you're listening David, maybe "third time's a charm"?  [;)]


*Combat Leader & Steel Tigers

[Alby]

ORIGINAL: tracer

If MG would simply 'loan' us a programmer for a couple weeks, I'm confident that many of the changes/upgrades folks have been clamoring for could be accomplished.

If MG learned anything from the two SPWAW-successor projects* its that the game still has a large/loyal following, and also that it can count on community members who would step-up and assist them in any effort they make to improve the game.

So if you're listening David, maybe "third time's a charm"?  [;)]


*Combat Leader & Steel Tigers

We had a programmer for a few months, thats how enhanced came about...[:D]
But I hear ya Jim!!

[Arctic Blast]

ORIGINAL: tracer

If MG would simply 'loan' us a programmer for a couple weeks, I'm confident that many of the changes/upgrades folks have been clamoring for could be accomplished.

If MG learned anything from the two SPWAW-successor projects* its that the game still has a large/loyal following, and also that it can count on community members who would step-up and assist them in any effort they make to improve the game.

So if you're listening David, maybe "third time's a charm"?  [;)]


*Combat Leader & Steel Tigers

Can't be an upgrade...Matrix has very limited use of the actual SP code. That's why it would have to be a totally new game built from the ground up.

[JEB Davis]

ORIGINAL: planner 3

Nick....if you get the Enhanced Version, use the low Casualty (Lo Cas) settings, makes for a great game. Try it you"ll like it.

Did someone say "Low Carnage"? [;)]
Just check my sig. line.

[planner 3]

Lo Carnage then.....Lo casualty....Lo dead...LOL

[Nikademus]

ORIGINAL: planner 3

Nick....if you get the Enhanced Version, use the low Casualty (Lo Cas) settings, makes for a great game. Try it you"ll like it.

I plan on it. I've been playing a "low infantry" setting of my own for some time (but the only value i changed was Infantry toughness which i maxed to 200%) The evaporating infantry of WaW was always it's biggest problem due to it having been based on the SP-III engine.