BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: PzB
I did bring together three A, B and C regiments of a Japanese Army division in China today; when I did so there was no rebuild option even though
all parts were together and in the same mode [&:]

probably because they had different equipment due to one or more of them having upgraded some of their devices. It´s the same as with aircraft, if you split a squadron and upgrade each part to a different aircraft you can´t combine the parts again until all fly the same ac.

[PzB74]

That's correct Castor, I made a comment about this in the last post.
Seems like one of the regiments have an upgraded light tank type as well as 47mm AT guns instead of 37mm.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 25, 42

Surface Combat

A series of surface engagement near the Marquise Islands.
- First a Squadron of 5 old destroyers engage a superior force of 5 US fleet destroyers plus the
large French destroyer La Triomphant. The first engagement is indecisive but a follow up engagement at Nuku Hiva
is more deadly as the Allied force achieves surprise. La Triomphant start landing 138mm shells on 2 of our ships and
the situation starts to get critical; just then a lucky shell ignites the magazine aboard the French ship and
she goes straight down! The two sides then continue an even duel without anyone getting the upper hand.

In the third engagement the Kamikaze is hit again and eventually sinks later in the day as flooding continous to increase.
In return the Reid is shot up badly. Suddenly 2 US destroyers collide and the USS Case is reported sunk.

Finally our main force, 4 destroyers led by the light cruiser Yubari engage 3 US fleet destroyers in an indecisive
engagement. Tomorrow the Yubari force will sweep the waters and attempt to drive off the remaining US ships.

Total casualties in these engagement;
Japan: 1 small Jap destroyer sunk and one moderately damaged.
Allies: 1 large French destroyer sunk, 1 US destroyer sunk and 1 US destroyer moderately damaged.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Hiva Oa at 192,168, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Kamikaze, Shell hits 1
DD Hokaze
DD Urukaze
DD Kyukaze
DD Tawakaze

Allied Ships
DD Woodworth, Shell hits 1
DD Cummings
DD Case
DD Smith, Shell hits 1
DD Reid
DD La Triomphant
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Nuku Hiva at 191,167, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Kamikaze, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Hokaze
DD Urukaze
DD Kyukaze, Shell hits 1
DD Tawakaze

Allied Ships
DD Woodworth
DD Cummings
DD Case
DD Smith, Shell hits 1
DD Reid, Shell hits 1
DD La Triomphant, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Improved night sighting under 92% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 92% moonlight: 12,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 8,000 yards

DD La Triomphant sunk by DD Tawakaze at 4,000 yards
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Nuku Hiva at 191,167, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Kamikaze, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Hokaze
DD Urukaze, Shell hits 1
DD Kyukaze, on fire
DD Tawakaze, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Woodworth
DD Cummings
DD Case, heavy damage
DD Smith
DD Reid, Shell hits 3, on fire

DD Smith collides with DD Case at 191 , 167
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Nuku Hiva at 191,167, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Yubari
DD Natsushio
DD Yukikaze
DD Karii, Shell hits 1
DD Yamanagiri

Allied Ships
DD Lardner
DD McCalla, Shell hits 2
DD Gansevoort, Shell hits 2
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Hiva Oa at 192,168, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Yubari
DD Natsushio
DD Yukikaze
DD Karii
DD Yamanagiri

Allied Ships
DD Lardner
DD McCalla
DD Gansevoort
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Sub Attacks

The sub I sent in didn't do so well and got itself sunk attacking the US destroyers.

Sub attack near Hiva Oa at 192,169

Japanese Ships
SS RO-65, hits 17, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Gansevoort
DD McCalla
DD Lardner

SS RO-65 launches 4 torpedoes at DD Gansevoort
RO-65 bottoming out ....
DD Gansevoort attacking submerged sub ....
DD Gansevoort fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Gansevoort attacking submerged sub ....
SS RO-65 forced to surface!
DD McCalla firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Lardner firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves
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Air Combat

Allied air power is once again stood down and we continue to pound Shwebo.
Results are very varying; a small raid of 20 Lily's achive 15 hits while 135 bombers that attack
later on manage just another 17 hits together.

The KB finally finds a convoy and at long range an enemy transport carrying fuel is set on fire.
Tomorrow I hope to chase down and sink the convoy.

Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 62
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 47

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 17 damaged

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
29 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 3rd Motor Brigade, at 76,136
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
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Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 52
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 17 damaged

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4
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Morning Air attack on TF, near San Diego at 219,96
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
B5N2 Kate x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK John C. Calhoun, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
DD Selfridge

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 4000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
5 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 2000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK John C. Calhoun
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Surface Combat

[PzB74]

Hunters of the Pacific

[PzB74]

Today brings jolly good news; The KB Strikes Gold! [8D]
- The convoy we pursued yesterday didn't scatter and got the hammer.

We damaged 1 KV, 3 destroyers and sank / torched 6 fleet oilers, 1 tanker and 5 cargo ships!

The especially good news is that the ships were mostly loaded fleet oilers!!
We have already sunk a large number of Allied tankers (almost 50) and I think Andy is short and therfore using
cargo ships and fleet oiler to move his fuel!

Listened to Steve Jone's Fire & Gasoline as the bombers did their work.
Not sure Andy appreciated the reference, no comments back today.

Damaged:

KV Freesia, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Patterson, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Porter, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Crosby, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Sunk or Sinking

AO Cuyama, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AO Sabine, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
AO Guadalupe, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
AO Platte, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
AO Kurumba, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
AO Neosho, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

TK Mobilube, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires

AK Titan, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
AK Edwin Markham, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AK James Schureman, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AK Royal T. Frank, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
AK George Ross, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 26, 42

Surface Combat

Another undecisive engagement; we shot up 2 US destroyer but failed to take advantage of the situation.
- I think there is a couple of transports present.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Hiva Oa at 192,169, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Yubari
DD Natsushio
DD Yukikaze
DD Karii
DD Yamanagiri

Allied Ships
DD Lardner
DD McCalla, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Gansevoort, Shell hits 3, on fire
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Air Combat

Two events today; firstly unescorted B-17s attacked Magwe; Our fighters were probably to high and
received too little warning to achieve much. A few Forts still failed to return to base.

Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 17

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 9
B-17F Fortress x 29

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17F Fortress: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 36

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
260th Sentai/B with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters to 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (4 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters to 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 11

Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17F Fortress: 7 damaged

Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
260th Sentai/B with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Raid is overhead
11th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
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Morning Air attack on TF, near San Diego at 223,96
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 46
B5N2 Kate x 28
D3A1 Val x 37

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 3 damaged
D3A1 Val: 6 damaged

Allied Ships
AO Cuyama, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
DD Crosby, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Titan, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
KV Freesia, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Selfridge
DD Patterson
AO Sabine, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
AO Guadalupe, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
AO Neosho
AO Platte, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
DD Porter

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
7 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
13 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
10 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring KV Freesia
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AO Sabine
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AO Platte
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Crosby
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Morning Air attack on TF, near San Diego at 225,96

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
B5N2 Kate x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK George Ross, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AO Kurumba, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Edwin Markham, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK James Schureman, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Caleb Strong

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
13 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near San Diego at 223,96

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
B5N2 Kate x 12
D3A1 Val x 19
D3A2 Val x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
D3A1 Val: 2 damaged
D3A2 Val: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Royal T. Frank, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Selfridge
TK Mobilube, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
DD Porter, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AO Neosho, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Patterson, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Aircraft Attacking:
12 x D3A2 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
11 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
5 x D3A2 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
5 x D3A2 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Royal T. Frank
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AO Neosho
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Patterson
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near San Diego at 225,96
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32
B5N2 Kate x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AO Kurumba, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
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Let's go finish the job....

[BBfanboy]

We damaged 1 KV, 3 destroyers and sank / torched 6 fleet oilers, 1 tanker and 5 cargo ships!

Yoikes! I think you are going to have a lot of environmental protests after that one![:-]

That gives me an idea - perhaps I should put Andy Mac in touch with BP about how to move oil across water ...[8|]

Seriously though, yours is the first AAR I have seen with a raid that close to the map edge and clearly it was a smart play. Well done! [&o]
Looks like North America is going to discover sushi and sake sooner rather than later.

[aprezto]

Congrats, more to the point though - that you've sunk 50 of his tankers. That has got to be hurting. I hate losing my tankers.

[PzB74]

Oil disperses well in the middle of the ocean, natural product [;)]
- As you remember my replenishment fleet ran into an AMC and I thought the game was up.
Obviously Andy had a TF in the area and his evasive action just didn't work.

Earlier Andy has escaped by using the "maps edge exits" and I had a feeling he might try for that again.
A delay in the Allied buildup of fuel will be a welcome bonus; anyone know how many fleet oilers like this the Allies got in 42?

YES Al, I also hate loosing my tankers! [:@]
Talk about taking the fun out of things...guess that's payback for invading Kiwi land [:'(]

Allied tankers sunk

48 tankers and fleet oilers on the tracker list; the last 5 are not included as I didn't observe them sink but we all know what happens to fully loaded and burning tankers in AE...

[aprezto]

ORIGINAL: PzB

YES Al, I also hate loosing my tankers! [:@]
Talk about taking the fun out of things...guess that's payback for invading Kiwi land [:'(]

Sorry mate. Don't worry Karma will take strips out of me, but I just couldn't resist. Or maybe it is karma ON YOU for invading Kiwi land - very ungentlemanly ;-P

[PzB74]

Christchurch will be renamed Geisha City for that offense Al! [;)]

No sign of more enemy ships in the Pacific today so I'm ordering the fleet to move south to coordinate an operation
in the Marquesas.

Our surface forces in that area successfully moved on the enemy transports and shot up 2 troop ships and a seaplane tender.
- Andy probably sent his reserves against us as we moved south, cause in the afternoon our force (now almost without
ammo) met 2 enemy light cruisers and 4 destroyers. We lost a destroyer to a torpedo hit and the Yubari took a 6" shell.
Even though outmatched we fought back well and scored hits on 3 enemy ships before making good our escape.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 27, 42

Surface Combat

Night Time Surface Combat, near Hiva Oa at 192,169, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Yubari
DD Natsushio
DD Yukikaze
DD Karii
DD Yamanagiri

Allied Ships
AKV Kittyhawk, Shell hits 29, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Fusto Arosemena, Shell hits 5, heavy fires
xAP Chilka, Shell hits 17, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 19 (8 destroyed, 11 disabled)
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Nuku Hiva at 191,167, Range 24,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Yubari, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Natsushio
DD Yukikaze
DD Karii, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Yamanagiri, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Raleigh, Shell hits 1
CL Detroit
DD Henley
DD Inconstant, Shell hits 1
DD Napier
DD Pakenham, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
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Air Combat

We continue to attack Shwebo but the results are enemic.
In Oz we continue to suppress Tennant Creek and bomb the guss out of the armored units nearby.

In Burma Andy release all his B-17s against Lashio of all places....?

Morning Air attack on 2/9th Armoured Regiment, at 76,136
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 23 (1 destroyed, 22 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 7000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 2nd Recce Battalion, at 76,137 (Tennant Creek)
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 7000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Lashio , at 62,46
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 73
B-17F Fortress x 18

Allied aircraft losses
B-17F Fortress: 4 damaged

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 68
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Morning Air attack on Lashio , at 62,46
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6
B-17F Fortress x 8

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Lashio , at 62,46
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 13
B-17F Fortress x 10

Allied aircraft losses
B-17F Fortress: 1 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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[janh]

Good job, PzB.  This warfare in the depths of his rear must be hurting him as much as would warship losses or a lost battle directly.  It would be crucial to know how much TK, AO and fuel transport capacity Andy has left to supply his forces in OZ.  Without plenty of supplies, you might hold out at Darwin much longer and Andy might have to take it from the sea.  Maybe you could even bag a couple of LCUs near Tenant creek now.

I think you have the playbook in your hand in OZ and CentPac presently due to your counterstrikes.  Though not safely, and you should probably devise a bigger plan or feint to threaten some of Andy's strategically important points and force him to redesignate forces to defense/reconquest that might be presently trained on your important points, Darwin, Port Moresby, the Solomons, the Gilberts, the Marinas...

The naval campaign in SW and CentPac is very promising, and will do long term damage.  Andy is probably rerouting convoys to longest routes, and sending his USN assets to catch your KB.  Do you have an idea of the whereabouts of his CV?  Ready to set up a trap, or would you rather want him to chase goose and burn his fuel while he cannot himself use his CVs for any offensive action against your shipping/bases?  My feeling is you should devise a trap since you might still be numerically stronger in CV air, and number of CVs -- chances won't get any better from now on.  And from so many other AARs I kind of get the impression to hope for intervention of land bases air later in the war as Japanese is futile and won't make up for the increase in USN numbers and quality (see Spruance and Stoneage, Canorebel and others).  This is the time where a won CV battle may gain you another 6 months of initiative for offensive actions and raiding.

In Burma, I can only congratulate to your successful air campaign.  Stand and fight was definitely the right choice.  The supply model in town/out of town really should be looked at, this seems quite gamey.  You should be able to supply forces at a railhead for a short while, even if it would burn supplies much faster.   Your ground losses sound horrible on first look, but compared to the later battles or European theater, what are 25.000 casualties?  How long will it take to get the units back up to strength, and experience?  When can you start counterattacking Andys LCUs?
Inquisitor has probably the same aggressive spirit that I do, but I kind of am governed by the German experience or the CSA problems of the Civil War: Enemy much superior in number, so a "tactical victory" is a "strategical defeat".  It would be great if you tried to cut off Andy's stacks at Mandalay and Schwebo and tried to bag a couple of divisions.  That would be the better approach to gain safety for another year or more.  And it would hopefully then free a division or two for other theaters, that may soon need them.  Or even for raids of your own.

Finally, what are your plans for dealing with the RN in the theater?  Any pay-back plans for the recent BB losses near Ceylon?







 


 

[PzB74]

Yep, those last tankers will hurt!
- Still it's a costly and time consuming operation we have launched. I'm using 2 replenishment fleets and it has taken weeks to get them unnoticed into the Central Pacific.
A natural #2 assignment will now be to destroy the Allied buildup in the Marquese islands.

No idea were US carriers are; some will still be repairing battle damage and I would assume West Coast and PH.
It's also possible that Andy has transferred one or more to the Indian Ocean but I don't think this is the case.

Andy will not sortie his carriers unless he thinks he can take on only a part of the Combined Fleet; as long as the KB is around he will shun the place.
So if we want to arrange a carrier clash we need to use bait and trickery [;)]

Being able to take a battle of attrition in Burma is hardly a victory, but at least we prevented a major defeat.
We need 2-3 weeks to rest and replenish our troops in the region and bring in reinforcements. A New Years offensive may be an option unless Andy goes at it again (which I think he will).

I have not see anything more of the RN since the massacre of our Bombardment Fleet.
The Mini KB together with 100 naval bombers in Rangoon and Port Blair is more than enough deterrent; on the other hand the Mini KB is to weak to go hunting on its own.
- So I'm playing a waiting game in the Indian Ocean; maybe Andy will sortie again and / or try to bring in more supplies to Chittagong. He will have to if he's planning another offensive...so let's prepare a welcome committee for him [8D]


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 28, 42

Sub Attack

US subs are getting more numerous; this hit wasn't lethal fortunately.
Sub attack near Tokara Retto at 99,62

Japanese Ships
xAK Batopaha Maru, Torpedo hits 1
CMc Ma 1
CMc Ma 2

Allied Ships
SS Shark

SS Shark launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Batopaha Maru
Shark diving deep ....
CMc Ma 2 fails to find sub, continues to search...
CMc Ma 2 fails to find sub, continues to search...
CMc Ma 2 fails to find sub, continues to search...
CMc Ma 2 fails to find sub, continues to search...
CMc Ma 2 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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Air Combat

The usual attacks by our AF in Burma and Australia.

Morning Air attack on 1st Motor Brigade, at 79,138
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
78 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 8000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 3rd Motor Brigade, at 76,135
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 7000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 3rd Motor Brigade, at 76,135
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Tennant Creek , at 76,137
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 27

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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The KB runs accross another merchant cruiser and pummels it!

Morning Air attack on TF, near San Diego at 224,108
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
D3A1 Val x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AMC Monowai, Bomb hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AMC Monowai
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 29, 42

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on 1st Motor Brigade, at 79,138
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 8000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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A bit dissappointed by the damage done by Jap bombers; poor weather not an excuse this turn; light cloud.
Still 78 bombers achieved 2+3 hits...that's terrible and no more than a single 4E achieves on its own.

I'm keeping the attacks up to prevent Andy from expanding the base.

Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 78
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 41
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 29
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 29 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
33 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 25
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Burma

[PzB74]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 30, 42

Air Combat

Most of our escorts stayed home and we suffered heavy losses by a LRCAP of P-39's of all thing!

Afternoon Air attack on 66th Chinese/A Corps, at 61,46

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 17

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 7 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
AVG/1st Sqn with P-39D Airacobra (20 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(27 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
20 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 14000
Raid is overhead
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Ground Combat

This was a bit typical - and expected; a crack Jap regiment; 99 exp and 91 morale attacked
a 1/3 Chink Corps which we know would be lucky to have half the Jap stats and training.
- Still terrain was the only meaningful factor. What happened to quality in AE?

Ground combat at 61,46
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3632 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 127
Defending force 2487 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 96

Japanese adjusted assault: 117
Allied adjusted defense: 142

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
209 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Assaulting units:
47th Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
66th Chinese/A Corps
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[PzB74]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 01, 42

Sub Attacks

Submarine attack near Hiva Oa at 192,169

Japanese Ships
SS I-169

Allied Ships
xAK Alcoa Pennant, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

xAK Alcoa Pennant is sighted by SS I-169
SS I-169 attacking on the surface
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Air Combat

The most constructive thing we did today was to bomb an armored bde in North Oz.
All attacks in Burma is doing fine little else than burning supplies.

Guess Andy's escorts and sweepers stayed home again today cause all his B-17s came out against
Mandalay alone. The first 61 met no opposition but the following 2x6 flights met a total of 73 fighters with plenty
of time to intercpet; yeah that's overkill - you would think.

The results were simply that all our fighters were damaged, shot down, spent their ammo, fuel, chickened out or some other failure.
Not a single 4E was reported shot down and all 12 bombed Mandalay. True enough, 4 were reported as OP losses against 4 Tojo's lost in A2A.

- I know what Andy would say; I lost 4 irreplacable B-17's....yeah, but shouldn't 73 fighters make short process of 12 unescorted Forts?
Was this just another in the long long line of poorly organized and executed attacks in poor weather were we should expect this realistic outcome?

What do you think, is this out of whack or high level realism [&:]

Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 1

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 61
B-25C Mitchell x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 20
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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 4
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 39

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
260th Sentai/B with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Raid is overhead
260th Sentai/C with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Raid is overhead
11th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (13 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(13 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Raid is overhead
50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Raid is overhead
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
77th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Raid is overhead
68th Sentai/B with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 29

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
77th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 170 minutes
50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
260th Sentai/B with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Raid is overhead
11th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Raid is overhead
68th Sentai/B with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 112 minutes
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The Untouchables

These Forts have been armed with rapid cycling lasers and titanized armor plates; our 39 Tojo's got whacked as they should be against suck uber power.

[CapAndGown]

Your results in this case were particularly poor. Generally, though, you can and will do better. I have done better. Forts are tough, but once they are gone, it will get easier until the super forts come along. Liberators, although tough, are not nearly as tough as the forts.

[PzB74]

Well, I've never done better and never managed to directly shoot down more than a couple of B-17s in any circumstances in AE.
It could of course be that the Tojo doesn't pack enough punch but with high quality pilots and so many fighters I would expect more.

- One of the problems may be that in AE all the fighters go in piecemeal; in real life they would go in 2 and 2 or more and disrupt the defensive gunners.

One thing I know and that is that we can never stop or turn back a formation of 50+ Forts, not even with 250 Tojo's.

[janh]

Hmmh, it does sound very weired -- if not like a joke -- that 73 Ki-44 wouldn't score some success against 12 B17 in flights of sixes.  Either your pilots are totally inexperienced, forgot their ammo, or were caught in a typical Burmese "snow" storm and missed the party... [X(]  Maybe they had way to much sake.  Seriously, if the circumstances were not totally against them, coming in droves they should have downed at least a few of them directly.   The Fortresses are armored comparably well, yes, but 73 should have managed to convert some wings and engines intp cheese -- more than just 4 operational losses...  Maybe would be interesting to send a save to the developers and have them analyze why basically nothing happened.

[Kereguelen]

ORIGINAL: PzB


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A bit dissappointed by the damage done by Jap bombers; poor weather not an excuse this turn; light cloud.
Still 78 bombers achieved 2+3 hits...that's terrible and no more than a single 4E achieves on its own.

I'm keeping the attacks up to prevent Andy from expanding the base.

Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 78
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 41
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 29
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 29 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
33 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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No surprising result: Bombing from 15,000 feet, no heavy bombload for the Sallies (25 of them did even fly extended range with a bombload of just 2x 250kg) and ostensibly quite heavy flak that damaged some bombers and disrupted the others (seems that Andy has some 3.7in AA guns at Shwebo). B-17 at normal range (8x 500lbs = 4,000lbs) has the double bombload as a Sally at normal range (4x 250 = 2,000lbs). B-17 has longer range, of course.

[Kereguelen]

ORIGINAL: janh

Hmmh, it does sound very weired -- if not like a joke -- that 73 Ki-44 wouldn't score some success against 12 B17 in flights of sixes.  Either your pilots are totally inexperienced, forgot their ammo, or were caught in a typical Burmese "snow" storm and missed the party... [X(]  Maybe they had way to much sake.  Seriously, if the circumstances were not totally against them, coming in droves they should have downed at least a few of them directly.   The Fortresses are armored comparably well, yes, but 73 should have managed to convert some wings and engines intp cheese -- more than just 4 operational losses...  Maybe would be interesting to send a save to the developers and have them analyze why basically nothing happened.

Depends on how many actually engaged the B-17's. Not shown in the Combat Reports. But it seems that the Ki-44's at least disrupted the B-17's (if PzB did not delete their bombing results before posting the CR's).

[pauk]

hi PzB... nice to see youre doing good. Good ol' Andy the Steamroller (Burma and Australia, lol). Saw your raids with KB - congrats. Where were Andy's carriers?

Well, i have to say that i predict some things correctly with Allied Edition and im sorry to see you struggle with that same things. Oh well...

im more interested if you have some news for STL.ol...(you can PM me if you like) im pretty suprised that this stock is under 125 last several weeks

[PzB74]

Ground combat in Burma (as well as the extreme terrain modifiers)and 4E uberability are my main concerns in AE.
If there is something I would like to discuss with the devs it would be these areas.

Yes, we obviously disturbed the 2x6 B-17's - but 70 fighters should have that effect. Some fighters attacked after the bombing runs
but in total 80-85% of the fighters attacked or tried to attack.

Hi Pauk-San, will send you a PM!
Andy's carriers have been somewhat put out of action for some time. 1 Yorktown class carrier was bombarded and sunk in Sydney while its sisters both were torpedoed and
damaged by subs. The Lexington and Sara fled and are probably repaired by now. There is a British carrier fleet in the Indian Ocean; so Andy don't want to face the KB with
3-4 US carriers.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 02, 42

Sub vs Sub

Close call for the RO-63!

Sub vs Sub: SS Gar attacking SS RO-63 at 175,102 - near Niihau
Japanese Ships
SS RO-63

Allied Ships
SS Gar

SS Gar launches 6 torpedoes at 3,000 yards
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Air Combat

Zeke's from an escort carrier swept Dacca, then we bombed from long range with 19 Sally's and destroyed
a B-17 on the ground and damanged several other 4Es.

The results by these Sally's were quite good despite bombing from long range and 15k feet.

Morning Air attack on Dacca , at 56,38
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 30000 feet

CAP engaged:
23rd FG/Hq Sqn with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Dacca , at 56,38
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 19
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 24

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 10 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Ground Combat

Absolutely despicable results in the jungle again; 4-1 numerical superiority is the only way to win.

Ground combat at 61,46
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3632 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 127
Defending force 2288 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 77

Japanese adjusted assault: 47
Allied adjusted defense: 175

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
47th Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
66th Chinese/A Corps
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Ground combat at 75,142
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 2256 troops, 18 guns, 222 vehicles, Assault Value = 189
Defending force 14 troops, 6 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 81
Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 81 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
255th Armoured Brigade

Defending units:
8th RF Gun Battalion
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