If I Own CMBB why get PCO?

[madorosh]

The demo is an excellent idea, incidentally, I don't know if anyone has mentioned that yet.

[Thomm]

ORIGINAL: Michael Dorosh

And yet it still retails for a higher price than their most recent version, Shock Force.

Totally irrelevant and unfair to the board owner to drag your disdain for CMx2 into this thread.

Best regards,
Thomm

[Ron]

Exactly, this is supposed to be about PC Ostfront; the BFC bashing miscreants have their hidey hole at gamesquad to voice their angst at CM, no need to have it spread here.

How does the game run on Win7 64 bit? IRC I had trouble with all of Koios' games initially.

[madorosh]

ORIGINAL: Thomm

ORIGINAL: Michael Dorosh

And yet it still retails for a higher price than their most recent version, Shock Force.

Totally irrelevant and unfair to the board owner to drag your disdain for CMx2 into this thread.

Best regards,
Thomm

Just because you don't understand the point, it doesn't make it irrelevant.

The point, dear boy, is that those prices are based on something tangible. It's quite possible CM:BB is still outselling CM:SF. If that is the case, one wonders why official support for the product has ceased. But of course, you are a beta tester for the white elephant known as CM:SF, and it would be embarrassing for you to admit that your "baby" is under-performing with audiences. I have no "disdain" for CMX2 - I'm looking forward to the next title. And my official position is that Panzer Command and Combat Mission are not competitors - anyone interested in squad-based, tactical combat games set in World War II will probably pick up titles in both series. But shoddy, poorly supported, and ineptly marketed games like Shock Force will do a lot to derail that.

They could learn something from Matrix, who is publishing a screenshot a day for their new release and taking fan input to heart.

[Mobius]

ORIGINAL: Ron
How does the game run on Win7 64 bit? IRC I had trouble with all of Koios' games initially.

I understand it runs good. I believe it is being coded on a 64bit Win7 machine. It runs good on my 32bit Vista.

[Thomm]

ORIGINAL: Michael Dorosh

Please apologize if I do not respond to the points in your post.

Best regards,
Thomm

[madorosh]

ORIGINAL: Thomm

Please apologize if I do not respond to the points in your post.

Best regards,
Thomm

There's no way you could, so I wasn't expecting a response. Ta ta. My advice to you, though, is to drop the bitchy niece act. I think if BFC starts listening to its fanbase the way Matrix does, and - this is important - puts CM:SF in the rear view window as fast as it tried to do with CM:BB, the whole genre will be much better for it. They picked the wrong horse, is all. No shame on them for not being perfect, but the time to start listening more to the fans, and less to the beta testers, is now. They can't handle another release like CM:SF, and honestly, neither can the genre. How many game series can go into total stagnation before developers decide that World War II squad-based company-level combat is a dead proposition? Close Combat just keeps recycling the same material over and over, Steel Panthers is gone, Lock 'N Load is trapped in 1985 and here we have two of the last great series left. Both are unique, both have something - hopefully - great to offer. I'm rooting for both of them. The time for hubris is past.

[Thomm]

Obviously you do not even need a response to go on ranting. Don't you think that maybe this is the wrong place to do so?

Best regards,
Thomm

[Erik Rutins]

Ok everyone, let's please keep it civil, shake hands and move on.

Regarding Windows 7 64-bit, I have it on both systems that I'm currently testing Panzer Command: Ostfront with and it works absolutely perfectly in all regards.

Regards,

- Erik

[JMass]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins
Regarding Windows 7 64-bit, I have it on both systems that I'm currently testing Panzer Command: Ostfront with and it works absolutely perfectly in all regards.

I can assure the same.

[Geordie]

I think there's a place for as many of these games as I can play and so I don't see PCO as a direct rival for CMBB, or even a new CM game. It's just another game.

However, Thomm, I would say this, why keep responding to him? This isn't the forum for It here, but your more than welcome to continue it at GS.

I for one am quite enthusiastic about PCO, a game for which I have now seen more screenshots in a week than I have for others in 2 years. I also know roughly what's going to be in it. I also know that the models look as good, if not better than anything I've seen from the other game.

Like Mike Dorosh, I've also started playing around with this one again.

Oh and Erik, I have quite a high spec PC, plays games like Call of Duty etc with no problems. However, I turned the graphics from very hi to high and it seems to have Improved things a we bit.

Let's focus on PCO here, plenty of other sites around to discuss other games.

[Mad Russian]

ORIGINAL: Ron

Exactly, this is supposed to be about PC Ostfront; the BFC bashing miscreants have their hidey hole at gamesquad to voice their angst at CM, no need to have it spread here.

How does the game run on Win7 64 bit? IRC I had trouble with all of Koios' games initially.

I have a new Windows 7 machine that I run PCO exclusively on. We do complete clean installs on a regular basis and I have no issues with it either loading or playing on my machine.

Good Hunting.

MR

[madorosh]

ORIGINAL: Geordie

I think there's a place for as many of these games as I can play and so I don't see PCO as a direct rival for CMBB, or even a new CM game. It's just another game.

I agree with you Geordie; the games are both unique in their approach and that's why I think we continue to see interest in CM:BB, PC:O and even the new CM when it gets around to the Eastern Front. The reason I bring up CM:SF - and yes, I think it certainly is appropriate for discussion here since this is all inter-related - is that despite CM:BB being eight years old, it is still outperforming the "new" CM. Players are entranced by the Eastern Front, and the basic concept of squad-based game play. That's all points in Matrix's favour, and kudos to them for sticking with it through the 'dark winter.'

I for one am quite enthusiastic about PCO, a game for which I have now seen more screenshots in a week than I have for others in 2 years. I also know roughly what's going to be in it. I also know that the models look as good, if not better than anything I've seen from the other game.

Like Mike Dorosh, I've also started playing around with this one again.

I'm really looking forward to the upgrades MR is so enthusiastic about.

Let's focus on PCO here, plenty of other sites around to discuss other games.

Well - it is a thread in which two games are directly compared, but perhaps you're right.

[Mad Russian]

ORIGINAL: Michael Dorosh

I'm really looking forward to the upgrades MR is so enthusiastic about.

I'm not sure how I became the enthusiastic one but I'll take it. The entire development team is enthusiastic though. Just check the posts in this forum.

I do like what I see. I think the old CM crowd may be too and maybe to an even greater extent the old ASL crowd. I'm a member of both so I'm good!!! [:D]





Good Hunting.

MR

[Zemke]

MR from the Blitz?  If so, I may well buy this game based on your recommendation.  This is Zemke from the Blitz.

[Mad Russian]

Yes, I'm still a member of the Blitz and several other sites as well. I made a custom scenario, HSG EW Changing Hands, for a multi-player game you had at the Blitz that seemed to play out well.

Glad to see you here and if you get PCO we'll definitely do some gaming with it!

Good Hunting.

MR

[Geordie]

Wow, a veritable Blitz re-union.

Spread the word, maybe we can have the good old CM days again with this new game.

[Thomm]

However, Thomm, I would say this, why keep responding to him? This isn't the forum for It here, but your more than welcome to continue it at GS.

In response to your question:

I did not respond to him, I asked him to stop.

As for GS: I wrote plenty of emails to the forum administrators in order to "activate" the account I have there. All of them were ignored, or ineffective; I got the message.

Best regards,
Thomm

[Geordie]

Theres no message to get mate. I cant reset your GS password and it seems that you have no way of knowing what it is? I will have another try with the hierarchy there and see what I can do, but believe me, I was as frustrated with the process as you were (well maybe not as much as Im not the one that cant post).

The alternative in this instance was for you to re-register with a similar name. It would have been above board and in the open.....


Edit, after having a look, I have sent you a PM at Battlefront.......

[Pford]

There is no Dance of Death while entire platoons of tanks reverse into each other and then are shot to junk by the enemy.

But they do reverse sometimes, right? This is crucial if one is playing without the reaction phase.