Autumn Fog Playtesters Thread

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RE: turn 25 and it's all over for the germans

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I don't know much about how far the Germans got during the real thing.

From north to south - they didn't get Elsenborn or Malmedy. They moved thru Stavelot, Trois Ponts and Stoumont where resistance was met so they deflected toward Werbomont which was defended, then they got attacked in the rear around Trois Ponts and had to retreat behind the Salm River. Further west they crossed at Hotton and LaRoche, took Marche, and moved thru Rochefort to Celles, where they were stopped. Moving south, they were stopped at Bastogne, and eastwards they were stopped at Martelange, Eschdorf, Diekirk and Osweiler.
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RE: turn 25 and it's all over for the germans

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I will have to try this one against the PO and see how i do,cant say ive tried a bulge scenario before so should be fun.
The battle of Medjerda is almost forgotten,but was fought against highly disciplined German troops and blasted a route straight to Tunis it was a perfect infiltration battle and should be remembered as the best fought British battle of the war.
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RE: turn 25 and it's all over for the germans

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Hi Sapper,

The scenario is much easier from the Allied side, but not as much fun I think. Much better to play the Germans, but while the first couple turns are a romp, you have to keep in mind that each turn the Allies get stronger and the Germans get weaker. By turn 40 you have to switch over completely to the defense. Stay focused and concentrated! Have fun!
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RE: turn 25 and it's all over for the germans

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Germans it is then.is version 6.0 the latest before i start?
The battle of Medjerda is almost forgotten,but was fought against highly disciplined German troops and blasted a route straight to Tunis it was a perfect infiltration battle and should be remembered as the best fought British battle of the war.
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RE: turn 25 and it's all over for the germans

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Germans it is then.is version 6.0 the latest before i start?
That's my understanding. And one of the new scenarios coming out with the 3.4 patch is Autumn Fog 1944 which is version 6.0 That's the one I'm using for my playtesting
Russia’s 41st Army COLLAPSED in Pokrovsk — 25,000 Soldiers KILLED After a RIDICULOUS Russian Assault
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Yes, 6.0. A change to the German side to help protect from the Allies breaking thru as seen in Mr. Fulkerson's earlier AAR will be the only change for 7.0. So far I've seen nothing else to change. 7.0 will be available for 3.5 !
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RE: turn 25 and it's all over for the germans

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I ran the PO v. PO test again and this time the Germans did better in 26 turns:

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turns 91 through 100

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Here's the mini-movie for turns 91 through 100. You can see that the Allies have trounced the Germans but good.

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Allied PO playtest

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I've started over playing as German against the Allied PO.  I'm on turn 6 already and it's going better than last time I think.  I'm capturing key bridges before Elmer can blow them for the most part but I have been able to repair the blown bridges pretty quickly after I arrive at them.  I'm thinking of pushing to the Muse River in the center and forming two wings with Panzers at their core to sweep north and south along the Muse River blowing bridges so that I can concentrate mostly on destroyiing the Allied units east of the Muse before turning on those units on the west side of the river.

Here's the turn 5 front lines:

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I put together a collection of the AARs for this second game of Autumn Fog.  Here's the link to download the AARs for the first 5 turns:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/12/14 ... 1 - 5.zip
Russia’s 41st Army COLLAPSED in Pokrovsk — 25,000 Soldiers KILLED After a RIDICULOUS Russian Assault
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Here's the link to the collection of AARs for turns 6 through 10:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/12/14 ... 6 - 10.zip
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Here's the link to the collection of AARs for turns 11 through 15:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/12/14 ... 1 - 15.zip
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Here's the mini-movie of the first 20 turns:

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Here's the next installment of AARs.  This collection is for turns 16 through 20:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/12/14 ... 6 - 20.zip

In the game I'm across the Muse River in several spots.  I found out that I can put an engineer unit on a river and watch Elmer move units there to block any invasions across that River.  So I'm putting my Pontoon units on the Muse River in different spots so Elmer can line his units up along the river next to mine.  I have no intention of having to invade across the river but it's comforting knowing Elmer is using a lot of expensive units to just watch the war go by turn after turn.
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RE: Allied PO playtest

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Here's a view of the front lines as of turn 25.  I'm across the Muse river in several spots and it's hard having to wait until I have enough units to be self supportive in case I run into some really big assembly of Allied units before running off to further adventures to the west.  I'm planning on trying to see if I can't make some headway toward Antwerp. 

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Here's a collection of 8 or 9 of my Autumn fog game 2 SAL ( saved game ) files.  I guess maybe only Steve would want to use them but if any body else does too then you're welcome.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/12/14 ... files.zip
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Here's the next collection of AARs.  This is for turns 21 through 25 and you can find it here:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/12/14 ... 1 - 25.zip

I'm advancing on Antwerp and it doesn't look like there's any defenders yet.


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RE: Allied PO playtest turn 27

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I have interdicted the supply lines to the northernmost Allied units. It's only a matter of time until they are dead. Antwerp will be out of defenders then???

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RE: Allied PO playtest turn 27

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Hi Larry just checked out 21 to 25 looks like Elmer has had it [:D]
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RE: Allied PO playtest turn 27

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Antwerp will be out of defenders then???


There are a few Allied divisions north of the map area. SHAEF may recall them to defend Antwerp, because if Antwerp falls, the Allied supply situation will be crippled. [:@] or [:D] , depending on which side you are rooting for.
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