Cowardly Jeeps

Flashfyre · Post by **Flashfyre** » Sat Nov 25, 2000 7:07 am

Here's a question for those of you who have fought against the US (AI plays US):
In Defend/Delay missions for the Americans, do the MG-equipped Jeeps always exit the map shortly after you engage other US forces?
I have fought them 3 times in my current campaign (I'm leading a reinforced SS armor regiment, 13 missions so far), 1 Delay action, the other 2 Defends for the US. In all three occasions, within a few turns of my first contact with the AI's defending troops, I get messages that "Jeep .50 cal has exited the map." I have never spotted these units....they are not the ones I have engaged (usually it's Shermans on a hill, or AT guns and armored infantry behind a minefield).

Could this be a bug or coding problem, that causes the jeeps to act as if they have been routed without taking fire?

Ismael · Post by **Ismael** » Sat Nov 25, 2000 11:35 am

i have found the same, but playing german against the russians. the computer-controlled russian recon vehicles, maybe as many as 15 of them, scurried off the russian end of the map after the first few turns. the game alerted me to this with a message each time a unit departed.

Bonzo · Post by **Bonzo** » Sat Nov 25, 2000 11:51 am

perhaps the AI (or something in the coding)is treating these vehicles as transports. In many battles with the AI ADVANCING, I see it retreating its transport units after they dismount the units it was carrying. I have not noticed this in AI DEFENDING battles, but it is possibly happening.

If the AI sees Jeep-50cal as a transport that is carrying nothing, and if it automatically retreats empty transports, it might be retreating them immediately from their deploy points. This is all conjecture on my part & a whole bunch of "IFs".

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Arralen · Post by **Arralen** » Sat Nov 25, 2000 2:32 pm

Maybe you're right, but those are classes as "32-scout vehicle", which shouldn't behave like transports ...

Looks like a bug again ?!

Could somebody please beem Ripley in to get us rid of those ?

Arralen

Warhorse · Post by **Warhorse** » Sat Nov 25, 2000 6:15 pm

This is not a bug, but rather a class induced reaction!! I've noticed this with transport, prime mover, scout, utility, and a few other classes that aren't really 'combat' classes. My Banya Pass scenario did this when I first made it, when the M3A1 Scout cars were utility vehicles, or something, they would retreat immediately!! They are just assesing the situation, and un-assing the area!

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Arralen · Post by **Arralen** » Sun Nov 26, 2000 2:32 pm

Originally posted by Warhorse:
This is not a bug, but rather a class induced reaction!! I've noticed this with transport, prime mover, scout, utility, and a few other classes that aren't really 'combat' classes. My Banya Pass scenario did this when I first made it, when the M3A1 Scout cars were utility vehicles, or something, they would retreat immediately!! They are just assesing the situation, and un-assing the area!

..so it is a bug

I mean - class "58 - scouts" does not show this behaviour, so obviously the class settings are not correct (same goes for "FO vehicles", those do not work as FOs and run away either).

Maybe we've to pull out the flamethrowers to get rid of these bugs

Arralen

panda124c · Post by **panda124c** » Mon Nov 27, 2000 1:07 am

Originally posted by Flashfyre:
Here's a question for those of you who have fought against the US (AI plays US):
In Defend/Delay missions for the Americans, do the MG-equipped Jeeps always exit the map shortly after you engage other US forces?
I have fought them 3 times in my current campaign (I'm leading a reinforced SS armor regiment, 13 missions so far), 1 Delay action, the other 2 Defends for the US. In all three occasions, within a few turns of my first contact with the AI's defending troops, I get messages that "Jeep .50 cal has exited the map." I have never spotted these units....they are not the ones I have engaged (usually it's Shermans on a hill, or AT guns and armored infantry behind a minefield).

Could this be a bug or coding problem, that causes the jeeps to act as if they have been routed without taking fire?

I have noticed the samething happening with some of the Polish A/C in 1939, but only the MG armed ones.

Flashfyre · Post by **Flashfyre** » Tue Dec 05, 2000 5:02 am

Thx, guys, for telling me I'm not crazy.