Soviet orders in 1941

[pjcbt]

Is there any difference in the capacity of the russians to give orders to their armies in September/October or does the disorganization finish all in November in one time?

Sorry for my english.

[Ed Cogburn]

Originally posted by pjcbt
Is there any difference in the capacity of the russians to give orders to their armies in September/October or does the disorganization finish all in November in one time?

Sorry for my english.

There is no drop off in disorganization prior to November, it all just suddenly stops in November. From my experience.

[Supervisor]

My colleague - playing the Russians,
is still telling me the Russians are attacking
piecemeal(3 separate attacks against 1 hex by 3 different Russian units)...Nov 25, 41.
One attack of 5 made.

[pjcbt]

I´m in September and my troops made 5 attacks of 5 well, although they made them singly. I don´t know if they attacked in the correct impulse, but the direction was good and all attacked.

[Supervisor]

While all 5 attacked....did the attacks have multiple korps attacking the german position?
Did multiple Russian korps attack the enemy in the same tactical impulse...or were there multiple piecemeal attacks? your reply did not clarify above. You can see this by how many combat reports you have "per" German position attacked.

The co-ordination of Russian units to attack one German occupied hex from multiple hexes in the same tactical impulse is what is subject to disruption.

[pjcbt]

Except two of them they attacked piecemeal. The thing is that in june and july you see armies attacking differents corps that the ones you ordered or moving in an opposite direction.

[davewolf]

I've seen completely failed (or better: missing) attacks in November and also December. I guess the penalty kinda fades out slowly.

[Micha]

Dave - I also have seen plotted attacks not being carried out, but I wondered if the reson for that may have been lack of OPs. It often happened in turns where I had plotted a lot of attacks, and usually the attacks that weren't carried out were supposed to have occurred in later steps.

[davewolf]

Originally posted by Micha
Dave - I also have seen plotted attacks not being carried out, but I wondered if the reson for that may have been lack of OPs. It often happened in turns where I had plotted a lot of attacks, and usually the attacks that weren't carried out were supposed to have occurred in later steps.

Well, honestly I don't remember exactly which turns I'm actually talking about...

But I do remember that the OP levels weren't lower than when the plots began to being executed properly later in the game. So I guess there must have been something else.