Simultanious Diplomacy works how ?

[Dancing Bear]

This is not going to be easy to figure out. Bresh, did either GB or Prussia set to skip their turn? Can you tell me from the log, the order in which the nations were selected to randomly play their dip orders? Where GB or Prussia first or last? Had they upgraded before loading the land phase of the last player to go in the land phase?

[bresh]

ORIGINAL: Dancing Bear

This is not going to be easy to figure out. Bresh, did either GB or Prussia set to skip their turn? Can you tell me from the log, the order in which the nations were selected to randomly play their dip orders? Where GB or Prussia first or last? Had they upgraded before loading the land phase of the last player to go in the land phase?

We upgraded during eco-phase. Marshall E, did a fix where homeland GB was GB-Freestate-Swedish controlled, so income was not correctly calculated. Marshall E. wrote after fixing, we had to upgrade or we would still have the bug.

Diplomacy phase, Russia had skip set but submitted.
I only heard from GB+Pr(myself Host), that their manipulation +DOW did not happen.
Turkey attempted formal peace with GB, and both agreed, but think accept formal peace, had been set by GB during a prior phase(eco).
Order was gr,au,sp,pr,fr,ru,ty.

The only manipulation/actions visible otherwise is Russia manipulating.

Regards
Bresh

[bongina]

We fixed it. I had created backups just after the setup phase, so I sent Spain its backup save file and he reloaded, re-did his deplo, and everything worked. He then did his reinforcement phase and sent the file out. Britain, however, could not open the file. So, I went in (I am the host and Austria) and tried to load it - got the same error. Trying various things, I finally found the solution. I moved Austria's diplo file from the comeout folder to the comein folder, then clicked on the PBEM button and the Spanish phase loaded fine. So, I created backups for everyone in the game at this point, and sent them out, and thus far have had no further issues.

Spain, however, tried to load Britain's reinforcement file and got an error, in turn. He too tried various things, and the one that finally worked was to remove ALL other save files from his save folder (including solo games). After that, he was able to get the British reinforcement phase to load.

WTF?

[Dancing Bear]

Well Bongina, I don't get it. If there is an error, I'm not sure why it does not consistently repeat. It will be very interesting to hear how your next diplomacy phase goes. Let us know, even if it works fine.

This is going to be a tough one to figure out. Maybe Marshall with his understanding of the code can provide some insight.

[Sorta]

Hi all,

My game has just had an out of sequence error:

Uploading French Sept 1807 Economic phase and getting a program call for Prussian Sept. 1807 Diplomatic phase, not French Oct 1807 Diplomatic Phase (as expected).

Any ideas?
What info do I need to supply?

[Dancing Bear]

This sounds serious. When was your last back up? Sending the files to Marshall might get this fixed. Marshall can you comment?

[Sorta]

Last back-up was last weekend. Should we reload the back-ups?

P.S. I'm also in Bresh's game that has stopped.

[Marshall Ellis]

I will be looking at this this weekend!

[Dancing Bear]

Let's see what Marshall reports back after the weekend.

ORIGINAL: Sorta

Last back-up was last weekend. Should we reload the back-ups?

P.S. I'm also in Bresh's game that has stopped.

[bresh]

ORIGINAL: Marshall Ellis

I will be looking at this this weekend!

Hi Marshall E.

Any News about this ?

Regards
Bresh

[Marshall Ellis]

I'm stuck with a game right now that is producing a reinf phase after a combat phase and trying to chase this down so no I have no update on the sequence issue (You were able to backup and recover from this right?) BUT I am about 5 minutes away from ditching simul anything rt now ARRRRRRGH!

[bresh]

ORIGINAL: Marshall Ellis

I'm stuck with a game right now that is producing a reinf phase after a combat phase and trying to chase this down so no I have no update on the sequence issue (You were able to backup and recover from this right?) BUT I am about 5 minutes away from ditching simul anything rt now ARRRRRRGH!

Hi Marshall.
No we didnt go back yet, wanted to know if this was in the code, or interface, so Spain would have to do his turn in a specific order to avoid the same bug. (diplomacy from MPs not executed).

Regards
Bresh

[Michael T]

So I guess I should be holding off on starting a new game? I have a 6 Human and 1 AI PBEM game all set to start. I had hoped this game was finally ready. I assume from this thread we are now waiting on another fix?

I understand your frustration Marshall. But please can we get a bug free version running reliably before anymore enhancements/improvements?

[Dancing Bear]

Well, after pushing for sim dip for so long, I hate to say it, but I think we should revert back old system for now (maybe Marshall you can also fix the difficulty in tracing supply through Poland -Mantis 728-, which is causing a problem in another game).

Obviously something strange is happening to make the game go back to the reinforcement or diplomacy phases related to some unknown factor (related to the game reading the game file incorrectly? skip settings?.....).

Perhaps some of us can continue to test run 1.08.04 and try and get to the bottom of it.

[Sorta]

On my game we are re-doing Dip phase by using the old turn order - hopefully we'll know by the weekend.

[Marshall Ellis]

Hey guys:

I'm not sure what to say at this point other than I am looking to revert back to IGO-UGO totally. We cannot dupe several issues but cannot debate their existence so my next play is to put 1.09 on hold for now and try to revert back! This is not trivial but I have no other ideas at this point??? I will keep you posted...

[Dancing Bear]

Sorta
in this game, do you recall if Prussia skipped diplomacy last month? Also is this the second month you have played with sim dip? If not, how many dip phases have you gone through with sim dip? I am wondering if the errors only show up on the second sim dip phase played.

ORIGINAL: Sorta

Hi all,

My game has just had an out of sequence error:

Uploading French Sept 1807 Economic phase and getting a program call for Prussian Sept. 1807 Diplomatic phase, not French Oct 1807 Diplomatic Phase (as expected).

Any ideas?
What info do I need to supply?

[bongina]

Potentially related issue:

On our game, we too are having issues:

I am Austria and the host. I completed my Jan 1805 land move and combat and sent out the files. Later, I came in and loaded a couple other land phases. France was going last in land. When it came time to load his file, the game asked for the French 1805 Setup Phase Instead!!!! I have tried going to my last beckup and reloading, and it still does it when it gets to this point. Help. I can't get past it, and thus the game is stuck!

[gazfun]

ORIGINAL: Marshall Ellis

Hey guys:

I thought we documented this OK, no? The simultaneous diplomacy works the same. You can do all diplomacy without waitng on other players to do their diplomacy. The game will not move forward until all turns are given to Spain then Spain ends his/her turn. Not much more that we could add or am I wrong?

Maybe Ive missed this but do All other players still load the files and wait for spain, or does spain only load all the files?

And could someone show me where the new procedure is so I can post a copy please

[Dancing Bear]

Hi Gazfun,
only Spain needs to load all the files. Everyone else just loads the Spanish turn. Spain should not skip diplomacy. I don't know if this written in the manual anywhere.