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RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

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The issue with java is I will struggle to do it early I am looking round and considering many options.

A better one might be to land on West Sumatra and at the same time send small TF's with 2 Seabee Bns supplies and an Inf Bn or 2 to take all the dot islands at the same time PZB would struggle to suppress or retake them all so at least a few would get to be AF's especially if it all happens at the same time

I dunno, my instinct here would be to go big or go home. Either land someplace critical with an overwhelming force or sit tight and wait until you can.

Seems like sending regiment sized forces all over the map just invites the japanese to scrape together a few divisions and gobble them up.
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I think that especially after a Japanese victory at sea, concentrating forces for some big decisive push is a very bad idea. That is exactly what the Japanese player wants. If you concentrate your push, then the Japanese player concentrates their defenses, and you will surely encounter the KB and have your fleets sunk again. The Japanese counteroffensive, even if you do take some ground, can be devastating at this point of the war, and you may end up losing a lot more than you would ever gain. Focus on causing attrition to Japanese forces instead.

One of the best ways to do this is to take smaller bases that are a thorn in the side of the Japanese player. He will either a) not respond, which means you get a free gain, or he will b) counterattack, and since you should be able to plan for this, and set up something of a defense/trap, you will have the advantage.
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I think that especially after a Japanese victory at sea, concentrating forces for some big decisive push is a very bad idea. That is exactly what the Japanese player wants. If you concentrate your push, then the Japanese player concentrates their defenses, and you will surely encounter the KB and have your fleets sunk again. The Japanese counteroffensive, even if you do take some ground, can be devastating at this point of the war, and you may end up losing a lot more than you would ever gain. Focus on causing attrition to Japanese forces instead.

One of the best ways to do this is to take smaller bases that are a thorn in the side of the Japanese player. He will either a) not respond, which means you get a free gain, or he will b) counterattack, and since you should be able to plan for this, and set up something of a defense/trap, you will have the advantage.

I think it depends entirely where he fights. If he tries to do something big in centpac, then, yes, he runs a high likelyhood of running into KB and he'll be forced to fight with his weaker arm (his navy).

If, on the other hand, he can get massively ashore someplace in the japanese perimeter and use his army and army air pilots (of which he has many), then the situation is going to favor the allies a lot more.

The tricky bit, of course, is trying to arrange that sort of outcome, but that's why we play the game :)
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To be clear I have decided nothing at present and deacto until I have pool density in Hellcats, Corsairs and hopefully Thuds I aint doing anything.
 
I am three months away from a fleet that can put to sea and take KB.
 
With the defeat of my fleet PZB could just sit back its the smarty play to avoid losses like those I just took. However PZB is ultra aggressive he may come back out to play if he does de facto its either Midway or New Cal neither of which are critical to my ability to fight.
 
In Burma I am holding - barely but holding on suciking in a huge proportion of his forces but HOLDING.
 
Next year will be the year of decision in this theatre.
 
I have LCU's and trained pilots and strong land based airforces but I lack a fighter that can kill Tojo's on sweep so I need time to train and prepare but that doesnt mean I cannot scheme and plan
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ps I am a better player with my back to the wall I get careless when I think I am in front [:D][:D]
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Japanese were about to break through at kalmeyo and just as all was lost the infantry tired after their long fight heard a trundling along the road....rolling straight into the fight just in time to stop the rot the heavy tanks of the 50th Tank Bde - the General Lee tanks of the Bde roll straight into battle containing the breach in the line and stopping the Japanese dead in their tracks.
 
In other news. Indian Army Divisions are increased to 10 Bn Divs with the addition of a security Bn - this increases the infantry available to Divisional commanders and makes the Indian Army Divisions more effective in the jungle for all round defence.
 
In addition several British Infantry are replaced with newly raised ISF Bns or units from the new Madras Regiment
 
 
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If you ask me, New Caledonia is a much more tempting target for him, and that is because:
1) He played the whole game trying to affect your supply lines, and from that point of view, New Caled affects this topic much more than Midway.
2) Midway is much more easily recoverable than New Caled. I mean, if he take one of the two, it´s for sure that will be much easier and faster to retrieve Midway than Caled.
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3) Midway is much more risky than Called because it is much closer to a possible counterattack from you

So, may i be wrong, but if I were PzB and had to choose between one of these two objectives, would definitely be New Caled.
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New cal maybe if he is after points but he wants to tempt my remaining carriers out so Midway is more logical what will be will be I will await developments and react accordingly
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Having tried Java against PzB I can tell you it is horrible if you aren't ready. Having adequate stepping stones for short range LB-fighters to get there was the main issue. I thought I'd bought enough with 12-15 sqds (can't quite remember) it wasn't even close. Eventually I had to use the carriers to defend a re-supply run, he hammered my CAP and then sent in KB - gurgle gurgle. And then I was isolated.

And I had Northern Oz

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Southern Sumatra ( makes enough fuel and supplies to keep itself mostly self-sufficient ) + Cocos Islands ( to support the flying in of fighters from CVs ( can be army fighters ) ) and then ferrying into Southern Sumatra makes a lot more sense.

Java on its own - even with Northern Oz - is a bit of a deathtrap unless you also own Timor --- and even then the lack of supply in Darwin will probably destroy you.


Southern Sumatra, on the other hand, is very doable and has only limited options for the IJN to drive in a counter-invasion. Palembang can't handle CAs or BBs and so is very tough for Japan to push an invasion into if you have sufficient 6 inch CD guns there. Oosthaven is more doable but highly predictable while the base to the west is also doable but the terrain there favours the defence quite significantly. The short journey times from the centre of Southern Sumatra also allow a very speedy reaction by a central armoured reserve.

It also gives the Allies the option of extending through Java, Malaysia and Borneo without the need for carrier aircover allowing you to push two strong axes of advance without having to split your CVs ( something you need to be MUCH MORE wary of ). Invasions without CV support are eminently doable and I don't understand why more Allied players don't engage in them. All you have to do is make sure the invasion can be LRCAPed at reasonable range by land-based fighters.
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I am reviewing lots of options no real ideas yet
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Not been to happy with my play over laast 6 months squadnered a good position well now he is invading Efate and probably New Cal and there is not a lot I can do about it as I hadnt built either up (deliberately more or less)
 
At Kalmeyo I have ordered IV Indian Corps to replace XV Corps on the line 3 Divs will exchange over the next week with battered Divs being replaced by fresh ones. Not a lot to say apart from that I have options and ways of gettiong back intot he fight but they will take time and patience.
 
My garrison at New Cal has a full strength Kiwi Bde so its not totally impossible to hold we shall see
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That´s awfull to say "I told you so" but I told you so ....
It is reassuring to know that at least there are some good defending troops in Caled.
Now more than ever your theme is again "patience, patience, patience"
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No landing at New Cal....weird but hey I will take it.
 
My flak claims 20+ Helens for the 3rd day in a row why come in at 9,000 feet it brings all 130+ 40mm into play adding to the 113 x 3.7" AA Guns.
 
I may not be able to fight him off with fighters but massed AA guns will get the job done
 
A japanese Armoured Regt roadblocked yesterday but with 200 C47's supplying them the box holds with ease...
 
Defensively its ok he has wrecked a lot of units fighing around Kalmeyo
 
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 15, 43
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Sub attack near Luganville  at 117,150
 
Japanese Ships
      xAK Taibun Maru, Torpedo hits 1,  heavy damage
      CL Kitakami
      DD Yanagi
      PB Toshi Maru #2
      AV Kiyokawa Maru
      xAK Osaka Maru
      xAK Hofuku Maru
      xAK Ryujo Maru
      xAK Yamabuki Maru
      xAK Yahiko Maru
      xAK Thames Maru
      xAK Liverpool Maru
      DD Akikaze
      E W-19
 
Allied Ships
      SS Skipjack
 
Japanese ground losses:
      6 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
 
SS Skipjack launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Taibun Maru
DD Akikaze attacking submerged sub ....
E W-19 fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
 
 
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Submarine attack near Luganville  at 117,150
 
Japanese Ships
      xAK Taibun Maru, Torpedo hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
 
Allied Ships
      SS Skipjack
 
Japanese ground losses:
      11 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
 
 
 
xAK Taibun Maru is sighted by SS Skipjack
SS Skipjack launches 4 torpedoes
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 9
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       9 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 9000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 26
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      26 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 26
      Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 20
      Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 26
      Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 8
      Ki-49-IIa Helen x 111
 
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      Ki-49-IIa Helen: 3 destroyed, 102 damaged
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      5 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       5 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
      20 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
       2 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
      19 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
      26 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
      36 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 29th British Brigade ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 6th Heavy AA Regiment ...
Also attacking 95th Heavy AA Regiment ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo  ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 163rd Light AA Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 7th Australian Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-49-IIa Helen x 17
 
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed, 16 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      16 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 30
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      30 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Kweilin , at 76,54
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 8
      Ki-49-IIa Helen x 21
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 18
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      21 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 38th Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Beaufort I x 20
      Blenheim I x 3
      Blenheim IV x 21
      Blenheim VD x 9
      Hudson IIIa x 18
      Wellington Ic x 6
      Beaufort VIII x 23
      B-25C Mitchell x 29
      B-25D1 Mitchell x 6
 
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Beaufort I: 1 damaged
      Beaufort VIII: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       7 x Beaufort VIII bombing from 12000 feet *
               Ground Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      10 x Beaufort VIII bombing from 12000 feet *
               Ground Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       6 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
       6 x Wellington Ic bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      10 x Beaufort I bombing from 12000 feet *
               Ground Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      10 x Beaufort I bombing from 12000 feet *
               Ground Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      10 x Blenheim IV bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
       3 x Blenheim I bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
      11 x Blenheim IV bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
       9 x Blenheim VD bombing from 12000 feet *
               Ground Attack:  2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
       6 x Beaufort VIII bombing from 12000 feet *
               Ground Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      12 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
       6 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      10 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      10 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
Also attacking Guards Tank Division ...
Also attacking 6th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 7th Burma Militia Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd Mobile Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 112th Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 79th Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 24th Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 79th Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 7th Burma Militia Regiment ...
Also attacking 38th Division ...
Also attacking 6th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 79th Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 14th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 38th Division ...
Also attacking 53rd Division ...
Also attacking 6th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 21st Army ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 53rd Division ...
Also attacking 22nd Recon Regiment ...
Also attacking 53rd Division ...
Also attacking 79th Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 79th Infantry Regiment ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 1st Formosa Inf. Regiment, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Blenheim IV x 9
      B-18A Bolo x 7
      B-25D1 Mitchell x 8
 
 
No Allied losses
 
Japanese ground losses:
      6 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       9 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
       7 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 10000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       8 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
Also attacking 65th Brigade ...
Also attacking 1st Formosa Inf. Regiment ...
Also attacking Imperial Guards Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 53rd Division ...
Also attacking 1st Formosa Inf. Regiment ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 14th Guards Regiment, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Blenheim VD x 11
 
 
No Allied losses
 
Japanese ground losses:
      6 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      11 x Blenheim VD bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
Also attacking 53rd Division ...
Also attacking 14th Guards Regiment ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 14th Guards Regiment, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Blenheim I x 9
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       9 x Blenheim I bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on XV Indian Corps, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 19
      Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 21
      Ki-49-IIa Helen x 33
 
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      Ki-49-IIa Helen: 3 destroyed, 14 damaged
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      11 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      33 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Sub attack near Palmyra  at 171,133
 
Japanese Ships
      PB Tonon Maru
 
Allied Ships
      SS Sargo
 
 
 
SS Sargo launches 4 torpedoes at PB Tonon Maru
PB Tonon Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tonon Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tonon Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tonon Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tonon Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
 
 
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Ground combat at Kalemyo (59,42)
 
Japanese Shock attack
 
Attacking force 76766 troops, 918 guns, 994 vehicles, Assault Value = 2469
 
Defending force 41881 troops, 1006 guns, 1431 vehicles, Assault Value = 1174
 
Japanese adjusted assault: 1804
 
Allied adjusted defense: 2032
 
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)
 
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
 
Japanese ground losses:
      7864 casualties reported
         Squads: 48 destroyed, 487 disabled
         Non Combat: 57 destroyed, 454 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 70 disabled
      Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
      Vehicles lost 153 (82 destroyed, 71 disabled)
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      1054 casualties reported
         Squads: 5 destroyed, 50 disabled
         Non Combat: 12 destroyed, 112 disabled
         Engineers: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled
      Vehicles lost 40 (8 destroyed, 32 disabled)
 
 
Assaulting units:
    53rd Division
    6th Tank Regiment
    65th Brigade
    1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
    33rd Division
    14th Guards Regiment
    79th Infantry Regiment
    7th Burma Militia Regiment
    24th Infantry Regiment
    2nd Mobile Infantry Regiment
    6th Guards Division
    Guards Tank Division
    14th Tank Regiment
    1st Tank Regiment
    2nd Mobile Engineer Regiment
    Imperial Guards Division
    112th Infantry Regiment
    2nd Tank Regiment
    22nd Recon Regiment
    38th Division
    4th Raiding Rgt /1
    21st Army
 
Defending units:
    2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment
    7th Australian Division
    50th Tank Brigade
    18th British Division
    26th Indian Brigade
    29th British Brigade
    4th Marine Regiment
    14th Indian Division
    3rd Heavy AA Regiment
    163rd Light AA Regiment
    13th Indian Light AA Rgt /1
    8th Belfast Heavy AA Regiment
    95th Heavy AA Regiment
    XV Indian Corps
    17th Indian Light AA Regiment
    6th Heavy AA Regiment
    56th Heavy AA Regiment
    19th USN Naval Construction Battalion
    1st KNIL AA Bn /1
 
 
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I just added up the butchers bill for Kalemyo so far. I dont know if it is the complete picture since I have just summed up all the combat reports.

Jap
Total infantry casualties: 50 057
Total Vehicles destroyed: 384
Total aircraft lost: 46 destroyed + 530 damaged


Allied
Total infantry casualties: 20 237
Total vehicles lost: 105
The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling expedients, of delays, is coming to a close.
In its place we are entering a period of consequences..
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Interesting I am not dissapointed by that especially as he lost a lot of the damaged aircraft flying into a flak concentrations.
 
My Inf loses are not that bad - 32nd US Div took a real beating and is down to 30/70 the Indian Divs are are at 40/93 and 7th Aus is at 53/96
 
So the US Div that can best afford the casualties is the one that took the beating.
 
I think Battle of Burma is over....he has been quiet for a few days now and the monsoon is nearing i will write up the whole battle soon
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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
My Inf loses are not that bad - 32nd US Div took a real beating and is down to 30/70 the Indian Divs are are at 40/93 and 7th Aus is at 53/96
That really isnt that bad at all. All those disabled squads will come back with some R&R. But do they return with the same experience level as they had when they were disabled aswell?
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Yes they do so my CW Divs are in decent shape
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I suffered more in the Battle of Katha but in general my troops will be back at full strength after the Monsoon.
 
I will have better infrastructure to support them.
 
The key thing is that I have managed to avoid committing and wrecking my Divisions in the battles if I had shipping I could take advantage of it but for now I dont have the ships.
 
I have plans and things that I am ready to launch but I need to wait and recover my pools and get new types into the front lines - by october 43 the CBI will explore again
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Pheonix from the Flames

Post by Andy Mac »

OK the Allies have almost finished lickign their wounds new plans are being evaluated.
 
In 20 days the RN carriers complete their refit
 
In 60 days Saratoga is back from the Yard Dogs
 
In 80 days the fleet is stronger than it has ever been....
 
New plans are forming an Army reorganisation is under way which will combine my strength into 3 powerfull thrusts
 
CENTPAC (6th US Army - 4 Corps, 12 Divisions)
SWPAC (1st Australian Army - 3 Corps, 12 Divisions)
SEAC (14th Army - 3 Corps - 13 Divisions)
 
Theatre Reserve - III Indian Corps - 10 x Motorised or Armoured Bdes [:D][:D][:D]
 
My original bloodless plan wherebye I advanced with minimal losses had to fall by the wayside after my losses off of Palmyra - achieving the objective and attriting the enemy is now the order of the day...
 
My intention is to hit multiple axis at once forcing PZB to divide hos forces - he has interior lines I must drag him in three different directions and force him to commit to stopping one axis.....
 
The others will then gut him
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