Need a few testers

[Andy Mac]

Guys I need a couple of testers to ruin through a couple of months of turns in my new Battle of Burma Scen and either AAr it or give me notes at the end I need to test the Japanese AI any volounteeers ?

Scenario is attached its quite short as there is no naval activity
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[fabertong]

Starting tomorrow I could probably run and AAR it next week....if that is any good to you?

2-4 turns a day.

[Speedysteve]

Hey how about our AAR feel like I'm writing a one-sided war novel?[;)]

[lolz]

will do,can play 1-2 turns a day

[Andy Mac]

The more the merrier thanks guys just want to know are the VP's broadly right, will the scale work, is the AI any good etc, enough supply replacements etc
 
Thanks guys

[lolz]

hmm...maybe just me but the map is really jumpy.
when i move the mouse it jumps left to right and wont stop.

[fabertong]

ORIGINAL: Speedy

Hey how about our AAR feel like I'm writing a one-sided war novel?[;)]

Because I have neglected my AAR for our game so much......I fear when I do post....no one reads it.....all turning to read your fine AAR....to keep up on our war......also, although most of the last 4 months for me has been mad at work the fact that the UK is cold/snowy...means the filming on my project in Scotland is patchy for the next week or two gving me a touch more free time......hmmm... I must have more excuses.....[;)]

[Andy Mac]

Hmmm Maybe I made the map to small if its on widescreen it may be to small

[Andy Mac]

I will widen it a bit for the next version

[Andy Mac]

OK got a new version thats a bit wider to make it easier on widescreens uploading in a few minutes

[Andy Mac]

its up now in the scen thread

[lolz]

it fixes this up.
gonna make couple turns tomorrow and look into OOB etc...good one btw.

[fabertong]

Hi Andy,

Many apologies , but due to updated work commiments........I wont be able to do any testing on this scenario....this week....V. sorry.

[JeffroK]

I'll give you a rundown on my first try, played until mid February.

At first view, the Indian Army seems to be very brittle and spread out across Burma, just like IRL. Any reinforcements seemed doomed with having to hold Rangoon for so long to receive them. Some Chinese "Divisions" arrive after about 45 days at Imphal? and later at Lashio.

First turns are slow, the IJA is crossing the ranges into Burma, I began to evacuate Tavoy and decided to defend Moulemein, Pegu & Rangoon before deciding on a strategy for Upper Burma.

On 6/1/42 the IJA I/143 attacked my retreating Tavoy forces without success, but after a bit of bombarding on 12/1/42 a shock attack pushed back 2 Burma Bde . 

Mergui fell 18/1/42 to 112 Rgt, only a base force defending the base.

In the meantime I had been finding Bns to send to Moulmein & Pegu and the first reinforcements had been arriving. The RAF & AVG had started well and caused heavy losses to the IJAAF, especially to Sally's over Rangoon but with limited AV pts they were slowly wearing down and victories were getting harder to achieve.

On 27/1/42 the IJA attacked Moulmein and despite heavy losses cleared the town on first try.
Ground combat at Moulmein (55,55)
 
Japanese Shock attack
 
Attacking force 9010 troops, 93 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 456
 
Defending force 4617 troops, 51 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 193
 
Japanese adjusted assault: 204
 
Allied adjusted defense: 51
 
Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)
 
Japanese forces CAPTURE Moulmein !!!
 
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
 
Japanese ground losses:
      1462 casualties reported
         Squads: 2 destroyed, 65 disabled
         Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 54 disabled
         Engineers: 3 destroyed, 37 disabled
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      1943 casualties reported
         Squads: 70 destroyed, 35 disabled
         Non Combat: 78 destroyed, 36 disabled
         Engineers: 23 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Guns lost 21 (21 destroyed, 0 disabled)
      Vehicles lost 16 (16 destroyed, 0 disabled)
      Units retreated 10
 
 
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
 
Assaulting units:
    55th Engineer Regiment
    55th Cavalry Regiment
    143rd Infantry Regiment
    214th Infantry Regiment
    215th Infantry Regiment
    55th Mountain Gun Regiment
    15th Army
    55th Division
    33rd Division
 
Defending units:
    2/7th Rajputs Battalion
    5th Burma Rifles Battalion
    1st Burma Rifles Battalion
    11th Burma Rifles Battalion
    5/1st Punjab Battalion
    6th Burma Rifles Battalion
    2nd Burma Brigade
    27th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
    108th RAF Base Force
    56th Madras Coy
 
Sadly this continued with the next hex being cleared on 29/1/42 , Pegu on 4/2/42 after 2 days of battle
Ground combat at Pegu (55,53)
 
Japanese Shock attack
 
Attacking force 18434 troops, 203 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 619
 
Defending force 8924 troops, 96 guns, 48 vehicles, Assault Value = 344
 
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0
 
Japanese adjusted assault: 793
 
Allied adjusted defense: 32
 
Japanese assault odds: 24 to 1 (fort level 0)
 
Japanese forces CAPTURE Pegu !!!
 
Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
 
Japanese ground losses:
      856 casualties reported
         Squads: 1 destroyed, 59 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 41 disabled
         Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      4001 casualties reported
         Squads: 134 destroyed, 46 disabled
         Non Combat: 204 destroyed, 59 disabled
         Engineers: 18 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Guns lost 28 (27 destroyed, 1 disabled)
      Vehicles lost 39 (39 destroyed, 0 disabled)
      Units retreated 12
      Units destroyed 1
 
 
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
 
Assaulting units:
    214th Infantry Regiment
    112th Infantry Regiment
    55th Engineer Regiment
    213th Infantry Regiment
    215th Infantry Regiment
    143rd Infantry Regiment
    33rd Engineer Regiment
    15th Army
    33rd Division
    55th Mountain Gun Regiment
    55th Division
    33rd Mountain Gun Regiment
 
Defending units:
    1st Burma Rifles Battalion
    2nd Burma Brigade
    7/10th Baluch Battalion
    1/18th Royal Garwal Battalion
    1/9th Jat Battalion
    4th Burma Rifles Battalion
    2/BFF Brigade
    2/7th Rajputs Battalion
    1/BFF Brigade
    46th Indian Brigade
    11th Burma Rifles Battalion
    1st West Yorkshire Battalion
    27th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment

and Rangoon entered and attacked on 7/2/42.
However the garrison of Rangoon held out, shock attacks came in at 1 to 99 or similar and very heavy losses incurred by the IJA.
Sadly for the AI, the entire IJA force moved into Rangoon, allowing a Gurkha Bde which was in Toungoo to slip back into Pegu and block the IJA supply.

I've played up to 21/2/42, the IJA is going nowhere, and the Allied mobile force is 1 understrength Bde so I am at a point where I dont see any use in continuing unless Andy says there isanother IJA Division coming.
Ground combat at Rangoon (54,53)
 
Allied Bombardment attack
 
Attacking force 9140 troops, 164 guns, 51 vehicles, Assault Value = 504
 
Defending force 18483 troops, 202 guns, 100 vehicles, Assault Value = 472
 
Japanese ground losses:
      44 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
 
 
 
Assaulting units:
    Railway BAF Battalion
    7/10th Baluch Battalion
    1st West Yorkshire Battalion
    1/9th Jat Battalion
    1st Cameronians Battalion
    2nd Burma Brigade
    1st Iniskilling's Battalion
    1/BFF Brigade
    1st KOYLI Battalion
    46th Indian Brigade
    1st Gloucestershire Battalion
    12th Burma Rifles Battalion
    7th Hussars Regiment
    RM Viper Force
    Rangoon BAF Battalion
    4th Burma Rifles Battalion
    2/BFF Brigade
    2nd Royal Tank Regiment
    17th Indian Div
    221 Group RAF
    103rd RN Base Force
    27th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
    8th HAA Bty
    2nd Anti-Tank Regiment
    28th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
    3rd LAA Bty
 
Defending units:
    214th Infantry Regiment
    143rd Infantry Regiment
    213th Infantry Regiment
    112th Infantry Regiment
    215th Infantry Regiment
    33rd Engineer Regiment
    33rd Division
    55th Division
    15th Army
    55th Mountain Gun Regiment
    33rd Mountain Gun Regiment

I'll post some Victory pt and air loss figures tomorrow.

Andy, if you want a game save let me know.

[Andy Mac]

Thanks Jeff I can fix the AI scripts to cover that off I will do it tonight a save would be good

a.mcphie@btinternet.com

[Andy Mac]

I think what I will do is move some of the Jap Bns back one hex so it will take a few days more to cross the frontier.

I had some fun with it last night I need to stop playingit to re write the AI and put in the missing air sqns

[Andy Mac]

The arrival of 7th Hussars and 2 RTR makes a big difference to the allied ability to resist....

Japanese do get additional forces released post Singapore....

[JeffroK]

As at 22/2/42

Victory pts  Allied 637   japanese 443

Army losses  A 262  J 57   (If they didnt get trapped in Rangoon, BurCorps would be dead meat.

Air losses
Sally     123             Heavy losses to AVG & RAF fighters over Rangoon, many unescorted raids
H81-A3 66               Starting to lose heavily, pilot exp and morale dropping despite rotation of AVG Sqns through Rangoon
Ki43b    20              
Ki43c    15
Buffalo  13              Did pretty well against unescorted Sally, now CAP for Mandalay
Blenheim IV  8
Ki27     7
Ki30     2
Ki46     1

[JeffroK]

For any interested in the era, an interesting read is THE ONLY ENEMY by Brigadier Sir John Smyth, V.C.
CO of 17th Indian Division who ordered the blowing of the Sittang River bridge.

[Andy Mac]

Thanks Jeff v4 is up I madea few changes to the map as well to help the AI.

I think I need to tweak VP's a little although the AI lost a lot of bombers so if I put some more fighters into VP should help te Ai

Anyway v4 should be stable and playable by both sides.

I am considering breaking up some sqns into flights for v5 to give players more options