No purchase without phone number ?
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No purchase without phone number ?
If you do not have /or you are not willing to share/ phone number then you are not able to purchase this game ?
I ordered the game, paid via PayPal (transaction succesfully, money charged from my account and sent to Plimus) but instead of download link after payment, I got pending order.
After two hours another mail appear that my phone number is wrong (yes i know, i do not have one, it is a crime ?)
So now I'm looking for a way how to cancel my order and get my money back...very nice customer experience, thank you.
I think that those five or six games that I bought from Matrix in previous years must keep me happy, no new titles with this bogus digital service. It seems to me that Steam is my only choice now for good games and digital download option, just pick the title, pay and download immediately.
Sorry guys, I appreciate your work but this is enough for me.[:-]
I ordered the game, paid via PayPal (transaction succesfully, money charged from my account and sent to Plimus) but instead of download link after payment, I got pending order.
After two hours another mail appear that my phone number is wrong (yes i know, i do not have one, it is a crime ?)
So now I'm looking for a way how to cancel my order and get my money back...very nice customer experience, thank you.
I think that those five or six games that I bought from Matrix in previous years must keep me happy, no new titles with this bogus digital service. It seems to me that Steam is my only choice now for good games and digital download option, just pick the title, pay and download immediately.
Sorry guys, I appreciate your work but this is enough for me.[:-]

RE: No purchase without phone number ?
Well, at least order cancelation and refund went smoothly (I sent just email with request), I received email from PayPal that my money was sent back and refunded to credit card.

RE: No purchase without phone number ?
Hi all,
Hello Arkady - long time no see! [:)]
Hmmm... phone number... must be new store thingie...
BTW, couldn't you just provide the false phone number (but with right way of writing it)?
Leo "Apollo11"
ORIGINAL: Arkady
If you do not have /or you are not willing to share/ phone number then you are not able to purchase this game ?
I ordered the game, paid via PayPal (transaction succesfully, money charged from my account and sent to Plimus) but instead of download link after payment, I got pending order.
After two hours another mail appear that my phone number is wrong (yes i know, i do not have one, it is a crime ?)
So now I'm looking for a way how to cancel my order and get my money back...very nice customer experience, thank you.
I think that those five or six games that I bought from Matrix in previous years must keep me happy, no new titles with this bogus digital service. It seems to me that Steam is my only choice now for good games and digital download option, just pick the title, pay and download immediately.
Sorry guys, I appreciate your work but this is enough for me.[:-]
ORIGINAL: Arkady
Well, at least order cancelation and refund went smoothly (I sent just email with request), I received email from PayPal that my money was sent back and refunded to credit card.
Hello Arkady - long time no see! [:)]
Hmmm... phone number... must be new store thingie...
BTW, couldn't you just provide the false phone number (but with right way of writing it)?
Leo "Apollo11"

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RE: No purchase without phone number ?
Hi Arkady,
Yes, a phone number is generally required for most fraud checks and for shipping. With that said, canceling the order was completely unnecessary. I could have cleared that for you manually in a matter of minutes. All you had to do was post here and be patient, or contact our help desk. We are happy to clear an order manually, but we can't avoid asking for a phone number.
Regards,
- Erik
Yes, a phone number is generally required for most fraud checks and for shipping. With that said, canceling the order was completely unnecessary. I could have cleared that for you manually in a matter of minutes. All you had to do was post here and be patient, or contact our help desk. We are happy to clear an order manually, but we can't avoid asking for a phone number.
Regards,
- Erik
Erik Rutins
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RE: No purchase without phone number ?
Well, I actually did it, they were unable to verify the order and sent me a mail that new phone number is necessary.ORIGINAL: Apollo11
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BTW, couldn't you just provide the false phone number (but with right way of writing it)?
Leo "Apollo11"
Thank you for offer but for me it is unaceptable, I like digital download for simple and quick way how to get anything you want, and not receiving emails with info that pending can take up to 12 hours. It seems to me that my money are not welcome. And I'm curious why phone number and especially adress is important for digital download ? [8|] For example I really hate eshops that want registrations before purchase, it stop me from impulse buys.ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins
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All you had to do was post here and be patient, or contact our help desk. We are happy to clear an order manually, but we can't avoid asking for a phone number.

RE: No purchase without phone number ?
Anyway, can you recomend best practice for orders (payment method, order from MG member login area) that can skip manual review of the order...

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RE: No purchase without phone number ?
Hi Arkady,
Sure, I will ask the store and see what they suggest.
I take your point on download orders. I will ask if it's possible to have the phone not be a required field for download orders. I'm not sure if that's possible - DR also required it, but they apparently did not have a check to make sure it was a valid phone number.
Regards,
- Erik
Sure, I will ask the store and see what they suggest.
I take your point on download orders. I will ask if it's possible to have the phone not be a required field for download orders. I'm not sure if that's possible - DR also required it, but they apparently did not have a check to make sure it was a valid phone number.
Regards,
- Erik
Erik Rutins
CEO, Matrix Games LLC

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RE: No purchase without phone number ?
ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins
Hi Arkady,
Sure, I will ask the store and see what they suggest.
I take your point on download orders. I will ask if it's possible to have the phone not be a required field for download orders. I'm not sure if that's possible - DR also required it, but they apparently did not have a check to make sure it was a valid phone number.
Regards,
- Erik
So this means that I can't purchase because I only have a cell phone and not a land line??
Tony
RE: No purchase without phone number ?
Is this a new procedure ? I purchased Revolution Under Siege and Making History 2 recently and both order went through without any delay or review
RE: No purchase without phone number ?
Just want to mention that I just did the purchase and the order went through instantly
Downloading now
I believe your pay pal email address and postal address must match the purchase info to avoid delay
Downloading now
I believe your pay pal email address and postal address must match the purchase info to avoid delay
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RE: No purchase without phone number ?
ORIGINAL: Treale
So this means that I can't purchase because I only have a cell phone and not a land line??
Nope, any valid phone number is fine. It's used for the anti-fraud checks and I think most payment methods require it for that.
Regards,
- Erik
Erik Rutins
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- Erik Rutins
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RE: No purchase without phone number ?
ORIGINAL: papajack
Is this a new procedure ? I purchased Revolution Under Siege and Making History 2 recently and both order went through without any delay or review
Most orders do not go to review - normally it has to set off a few flags to cause that. A fake phone number or one that doesn't match what's on record with your payment method, an address change from previous orders, an e-mail change, a difference between your actual IP location and where you say you are in the billing, etc. stuff like that in combination can trigger a review, which normally does not take long - a few minutes during business hours normally.
Regards,
- Erik
Erik Rutins
CEO, Matrix Games LLC

For official support, please use our Help Desk: http://www.matrixgames.com/helpdesk/
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RE: No purchase without phone number ?
Everything is smooth , the download took 20 minutes and installation went without problem
This is my third $80 game ..could not get into WitP AE and Battle Bulge but this one look like a winner and suit me ..cheers
This is my third $80 game ..could not get into WitP AE and Battle Bulge but this one look like a winner and suit me ..cheers
RE: No purchase without phone number ?
Ordered the game two hours ago and no response yet. 
RE: No purchase without phone number ?
Help please!
More than twelve hours and no link. Checked my spam folder too.
More than twelve hours and no link. Checked my spam folder too.
RE: No purchase without phone number ?
Hi all,
IMHO the best way is to write to Erik Rutins and explain to him your problem with purchase!
Leo "Apollo11"
ORIGINAL: DReaper
Help please!
More than twelve hours and no link. Checked my spam folder too.
IMHO the best way is to write to Erik Rutins and explain to him your problem with purchase!
Leo "Apollo11"

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RE: No purchase without phone number ?
Thanks, Leo. I'll write him ASAP.
RE: No purchase without phone number ?
Just received a phone call requering to confirm my order and everything solved.
Thanks!
Thanks!
RE: No purchase without phone number ?
Hi all,
Great!
Enjoy the WitE! [:)]
Leo "Apollo11"
ORIGINAL: DReaper
Just received a phone call requering to confirm my order and everything solved.
Thanks!
Great!
Enjoy the WitE! [:)]
Leo "Apollo11"

Prior Preparation & Planning Prevents Pathetically Poor Performance!
A & B: WitW, WitE, WbtS, GGWaW, GGWaW2-AWD, HttR, CotA, BftB, CF
P: UV, WitP, WitP-AE
RE: No purchase without phone number ?
How can this thing prevent a fraud ?ORIGINAL: DReaper
Just received a phone call requering to confirm my order and everything solved.
Thanks!
If I stole some credit card or PayPal account info then I'm able to use pre-paid card anonymous phone number and confirm the order anayway...
btw did anyone read Plimus privacy policy ? I'm afraid of visiting their site, I do not trust them that they can secure all this data...
"We collect the following information about casual visitors: the IP address of the visiting machine for geographic statistical purposes only.
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