I don't see the concrete for protection side being the weaker of the two positions, you have not provided a reason why so many concrete pictures exist if there is absolutely no purpose for the concrete to be there. I would think that the fact that there seems to be a practice of concrete application to the same locations on different STuGs must warrent a careful examination as to the reason that it is there. I am sure that the Germans were quite aware of the limitations of concrete as additional armour, yet over and over again throughout several models that span a couple years, at least, there it is again and again. So, now do your part in this discussion and give us a valid reason through your extensive and unfailing research as to why again and again, a smart group of people, would continue to apply a product to the same areas on the different STUG models that contributed absolutely nothing for several years.ORIGINAL: Yoozername
Perhaps your frustration is that all I have to do is post pics WITHOUT concrete, which is easily done, while you must look everywhere and find them with concrete (and in the correct time frame set forth in the first post of this thread)? I suppose the fact that you must also prove somehow that the concrete helped 'protection' doesn't help your frustration. the Germans discontinuing manaufacturing application of concrete didn't help much either.
But I fail to see how my providing a picture of a concreted StuG with a penetration in a well known protected area serves any purpose? My premise is that area is ALREADY well protected. What does it accomplish besides providing you with another concrete pic?
The other side of the debate has gone out of it's way to show pictures, come up with some theories, and even shoot at some bricks to see if their theories were correct. I think that we can say that the application of concrete as armour might be very limited in effectiveness. Now I still think that there must be a reason out there somewhere, as to some protection qualification that would warrent it's common use for a significant period of time, so here is where you can step in and be the hero and fill us up with your endless knowledge as to why these tankers would over and over again do something that would be easily proven to be totally ineffective as you continue to state. You would not continue to perform an action of no value for years, unless you as a collection of trained users were all totally off your nut.
So our ears are open, and I am sitting back waiting for the revelation that you will be providing. If it is crap, fine, just explain why it is there.
