[REL Beta] [Shadows] Star Trek - The Picard Era

[WoodMan]

Yes I can press continue, but it took a long time and I crtl-alt-del out of it, maybe if I wait longer I could quit normally.

[Igard]

I wait for a few seconds, but it still looks like the game's loading, however I can still cancel. If you hover the cursor over the cancel button, does it illuminate slightly?

[Pulsar]

Hi Igard .Just joined the forum and yours was the first mod that caught my eye.You've done a really nice job on this [:)] . The only problem i had was when trying to switch back to my default theme and reading through these posts i noticed others were having the same problem.

This was kind of bugging me so allthough i dont know alot about modding this game i thought i would have a play and see if i could find the problem. So i backed everything up first and my first thought was to check the ship images folder you had mentioned in posts on here.I noticed there were folders in there named family 0 to 11. Then i checked the c:\matrixgames\distantworlds\images\units\ships folder and that had folders family 0-10 plus an other folder. So what i did was copy the family 11 folder out of your mod to c:\matrixgames\distantworlds\images\units\ships and copy the other folder from c:\matrixgames\distantworlds\images\units\ships to your mods ship images folder,effectively making identical named folders in both.

Then i fired up the game .Now i can switch between both the default and your mod with no crashes [8D]. I dont know if you had allready figured this one out but i thought it would be worth posting .Oh and hope it was ok to change your mod in this way.

[Igard]

Hi Pulsar welcome to the forums. [:)]

Thank you for reporting the problem. You can certainly remove the family11 folder and that should fix the problem. The family11 folder is only used for extra ship variant images so it won't effect the mod unless you want to start making new designs with new images. However there's no need to replace the folder with the 'other' folder from the root directory as the game won't recognise it in the customisation folder.

I'm sure this problem will be fixed when Elliot returns, I'll make a post in the tech support forum. If any of the beta testers think it's worth PM'ing Elliot then that would be great as I know this was an issue that was supposed to have been resolved post expansion. I think it's just a case of a few compatablity issues with some system configurations.

[Igard]

I've created a tech support thread about this. Let me know if I've missed out any info.

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[Pulsar]

Hi Igar based on your last post i deleted the other folder back out of your mod folder as you said this wasn't recognised ,so now the only change i have is creating a family 11 folder in c:\matrixgames\distantworlds\images\units\ships.It still switches themes 0k .so it would appear that you can't have a folder in a mod that isn't in the installation folder eg family 11. Therefore you can either create that folder in the installation folder aswell with proper images as i did or as you said delete it from the mod. Hopefully there is a way round it [&:]
but it works ok for me at the moment.

[James009]

Excellent work, loving the mod. I really appreciate all the ship art you are providing

[Igard]

Hey guys, it seems to me the best rule for using this mod and switching to other mods with it is as follows:-

If you don't really want the extra ship variant images, then remove the family11 folder in the shipImages folder. It will allow you to change theme to other mods no bother.

If you really want to use the extra ship images, then obey the following rules:-

1. When changing FROM the Star Trek theme, always switch directly to the Default theme. This way when you reload the game it should load the default theme from which you can then switch to any theme you like.

2. When you get the exception error (this should only be when switching to the default theme if you obey rule 1) try to select continue, then simply cancel your way out and exit the game normally.

3. If you can't continue at the exception error, select quit and the game will crash to desktop. If the game will not load after this, then copy all your mods from the customisation folder and put them somewhere safe (like the desktop) and then reload the game. You can then exit the game and copy back all your mods, but I would recommend not using any mods with more than the default 11 shipsets. You can of course remove the twelfth shipset (family11) from this mod if you like.

Sorry again for any inconvenience. Hopefully this'll get fixed soon. [:)]

[Igard]

ORIGINAL: James009

Excellent work, loving the mod. I really appreciate all the ship art you are providing

Thanks James. [:)]

Of course I don't do the art for these ships. They were created by various modelers and artists for the Starfleet Command series games over the last decade or so. I only do some tweaking and recolouring here and there. And of course put it all together for DW. [;)]

Liking the Avatar. Is that from ST:Online? I've just started playing it, it's a really nice game, if a little bit un-canon for my liking. Then again a few of my mods are far from canon anyway so look who's talking. [:D]

[Nightchill]

I will try this once I have finished my current game.

Do you have an updated recommended setup guide? (government / size / tech level)

[Igard]

Hello, Nightchill. Welcome to the forums.

No problem.

Of course, I don't like telling others how to play their game so these are just guidelines to get your galaxy looking as much like the Star Trek one as possible.

Galaxy setup - relevant fields :-
Colony prevelance - normal, Independant alien life - plentiful, Expansion - Starting (to ensure all independants are minor races)
Aggression - normal/restelss (I tend to go with normal for less wars, but restless should be ok for those who like a challenge)

Races - Set up your own race according to these settings :-
I changed the Breen to a military dicatorship since there aren't enough of those around.

For the Remans you can use whatever name you like since they're a newly formed government. It's impossible to know for sure what type of government they'll have, so I went with Despotism. They could just as easily be a monarchy to depict their hierarchical structure.

The Ferengi are left as a 'random' government. This is so they default as a Mercantile Guild.

EDIT: I gave the Tholians an excellent home system as they're a non-expanding empire.

[WoodMan]

Is it not possible to choose Mercantile Guild rather than random?  Or is this the way we currently have to do this for custom races with a special government?

[Igard]

You can select the special government from the players empire selection screen, but not from the other empire's selection screen. Choosing random will select the default for that race, which in the case of the Ferengi, is Mercantile G.

Probably something that needs fixed, but it's pretty minor IMO. [:)]

[WoodMan]

Okay thanks Igard. [;)]

[Nightchill]

Thanks Igard - this will be very helpful

[James009]

ORIGINAL: Igard
Thanks James. [:)]

Of course I don't do the art for these ships. They were created by various modelers and artists for the Starfleet Command series games over the last decade or so. I only do some tweaking and recolouring here and there. And of course put it all together for DW. [;)]

Liking the Avatar. Is that from ST:Online? I've just started playing it, it's a really nice game, if a little bit un-canon for my liking. Then again a few of my mods are far from canon anyway so look who's talking. [:D]

Yeah, the avatar is from ST:Online which I believe has some very decent art. It is a little un-canon for me too but I do try to enjoy it.

Anyways, I appreciate that the Starfleet Command people have been making these ships for us. I've never really gotten to enjoy that game before... maybe I'll check it out again sometime.

Also, thanks for posting that Galaxy Setting screenshot, I think it's helpful and I'll probably try using it in the future.

Lastly, one quick question, which lasers are "supposed" to corrispond to Phasers, Disruptors, and such? I'm just curious.

EDIT: The Basic Laser appears to be Phasers and Shatterforce Lasters (Long Range) appear to be Disruptors.

[Igard]

ORIGINAL: James009

Lastly, one quick question, which lasers are "supposed" to corrispond to Phasers, Disruptors, and such? I'm just curious.

EDIT: The Basic Laser appears to be Phasers and Shatterforce Lasters (Long Range) appear to be Disruptors.

It's really hard to say. The Shatterforce lasers are the correct colour, but then, the Klingon design scheme will make them favour the more powerful shorter range purple one (the name escapes me).

The titan beam is a pretty good colour too. It reminds me of TOS phasers.

Perhaps for my weapons mod, I should change the colour of the Maxos Blaster to blue, so that it's more like TOS phaser effect. The Shatterforce can stay the same, the purple one can get changed to some sort of pulse cannon and the Titan beam can be a powerful phaser (red).

That all seems a little bit pointless at the moment though. Let's wait and see what new mod support Elliot comes up with next. [;)]

[ehsumrell1]

ORIGINAL: Igard

ORIGINAL: James009

Lastly, one quick question, which lasers are "supposed" to corrispond to Phasers, Disruptors, and such? I'm just curious.

EDIT: The Basic Laser appears to be Phasers and Shatterforce Lasters (Long Range) appear to be Disruptors.

It's really hard to say. The Shatterforce lasers are the correct colour, but then, the Klingon design scheme will make them favour the more powerful shorter range purple one (the name escapes me).

The titan beam is a pretty good colour too. It reminds me of TOS phasers.

Perhaps for my weapons mod, I should change the colour of the Maxos Blaster to blue, so that it's more like TOS phaser effect. The Shatterforce can stay the same, the purple one can get changed to some sort of pulse cannon and the Titan beam can be a powerful phaser (red).

That all seems a little bit pointless at the moment though. Let's wait and see what new mod support Elliot comes up with next. [;)]

I agree Igard. Remember that there "might" be tech tree modding very soon, in which you
should be able to create/name/re-name weapons and their stats in the tech tree. [8|]

[NefariousKoel]

ORIGINAL: WoodMan

Cool, I need to see more Star Trek, I've seen more Janeway they anything else, but I like all the series.

They're some kind of crystalline-rock lifeform that lives under high heat, as Igard mentioned.

I recall their unusual race weapon/equipment in SFB was the "Tholian web". Kinda like the ships spinning tractor beam-based spider webs to ensnare enemies. Cool stuff!

I love what Igard did with them. Thanks for adding them Igard! [8D]


Edit: If any of you wanna friend list me on STO, my handle is @NefariousCoal. Maybe we can get some fleet actions going sometime. [:)]

[Igard]

NK, that's exactly what they're like! Chrystalline. I'd love to see a tholian web type weapon in DW.

I haven't looked into STO fleets yet, but I'd like to sometime soon.  I did go on a fleet mission even though I'm not part of a fleet. [&:] It was pretty awesome!  I'm just enjoying the solo play for now though, I'm not really an MMO person, but I'd like to get into it. I'll friend list you later today after work. [:)]