Defending the Motherland (Sov Player vrs AI)

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RE: Defending the Motherland (Sov Player vrs AI)

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ORIGINAL: Paul McNeely

Leningrad has been emptied as have all heavy industry and armaments factories west of Kharkov, though some of the Ukrainian ones are moving east over 4 weeks (25% at a time). This uses about half my rail capacity the rest goes into unit transfers.

Great AAR!

I'm just starting my own GC41 as the Ruskies and I'm curious why you decided to empty the factories at Leningrad. I was thinking of leaving them under the assumption that I could hold the city and I would be able to leave all of those factories online.

Would you still evac the factories from Leningrad if you had it to do over?
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RE: Defending the Motherland (Sov Player vrs AI)

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Kill as many panzer divisions, in the 1941-1942 blizzard, as you can; the survivors will be back, with a vengeance, come the spring.
 
Learning this the hard way. [:'(]
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RE: T22 (3 of 3) South

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Dropping airborne guys, unless you can reach them quickly, does not work out.  At best an airborne brigade will have a CV around 3, they just aren't very big and lack a lot of heavy weapons.
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RE: T22 (3 of 3) South

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You might want to just have air units resting on blizzard turns; it's an 80% chance they'll scrub, and any attempt to fly is a chance at an accident.
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RE: Defending the Motherland (Sov Player vrs AI)

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ORIGINAL: GordianKnot

Great AAR!

I'm just starting my own GC41 as the Ruskies and I'm curious why you decided to empty the factories at Leningrad. I was thinking of leaving them under the assumption that I could hold the city and I would be able to leave all of those factories online.

Would you still evac the factories from Leningrad if you had it to do over?

Thank you for the praise, it is appreciated, and I am glad you are enjoying it.

I would evacuate some of the factories yes. I would leave the Su-2, and the BA-10 factories plus I would only move the T-50 factories after they convert to T-34 M1942 in august or september. The faster you move the KV 1 factory the faster it is back into production and growing and doing it early doesn't hurt you, it will be growing about the time you can actually use it: when you start getting conversions to tank Bde. The Heavy Industry and Armament factories are to taste but I didn't want them lost. There is also a future upgrade factory there I would move it as well.

My basic comment is to move stuff earlier then you think you need to as you get hit with the odd turn where you need to shift a lot of troops around and Murphy's law says that is when a critical factory has to be moved.

As my game stands now I think you can afford to loose some heavy industry but I would be reluctant to loose too much in the way of Armament factories and especially none of the vehicle factories. My home vehicle production more or less equals my usual losses per week from regular movement of supplies and men and I use rail as much as humanly possible to move stuff around. I think this is why I feel the rail pinch and randallw doesn't notice it as much.
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RE: Defending the Motherland (Sov Player vrs AI)

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randallw, thanks for the comments they are always taken into consideration, even if not promptly acted on.  I've been trying to kill the damned Pz divisions for weeks now, but I get set up for an encirclement (in slo-mo) and they pike off to the black sea, I get set up down there to encircle them and the jaunt up to around Kiev, etc.  I have a few operations in progress to trap and kill a few of them, and when the chance shows up to hit one I do so.

The airborne drops were critical to the success of the 4th Shock Army's break out.  One of the bde shattered under attack but the next week another Bde handily repulsed a motorized divisions attack twice.  It was "Comrade, look the trucks are frozen to the ground, is the land line to the mortar battalion up yet?"  "Comrade they are nearing the lines...now, now, now!"  Dozens of white clad paratroopers pop out of concealment and open up with small arms into the half frozen german troops.  "Mortars now...is the land line working still Comrade?"

How can you rest air units?  I have been astounded because it is now 01/01/42 and my air force has shown up in strength on the battlefield.  It is nice to get air cover...but on the other hand so too has the Luftwaffe...one Tank Bde solo attacking a security regiment was pounded into the ground by 201 bombers hitting it.   CV went from 13 to 0 before half the bombers had finished bombing it.
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Turn 29 (Part 1 of 3)

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1/1/42 STAVKA

The last month has been hectic here as we try and keep track of what is going on at the front through rather un-reliable radio's, nearly non-existent land lines and mainly motorcycle courier. Oddly enough some of the radio's only seem to function when the commander of the formation wants extra and are unavailable at other times.

The deep cold hit more or less on schedule in the start of December and our troops were gladdened to see the invaders struggling to start their vehicles not to mention standing about in knee deep snow with steel caped boots. Seeing the invaders in distress our men surged forward driving them back while here we planned for the operations of 4 Shock Armies. Unfortunately the weather warmed up the week after and the enemy was able to reverse those losses and our forces had to stand on the defensive. The next week the deep cold was back and the enemy again froze. However, our lack of operational mobility has made our advances glacial. Still we have developed a sound tactical doctrine to apply to the enemy. Our forces focus on the weak links between enemy forces be they security regiments, battle hurt formations, or his weaker allies. These units are smashed back and then our forces advance into the gap if possible further attacks allow us to infiltrate small forces further around the enemy units. Like water into cracks into a rock our troops move slowly in. The enemy is forced to pull back or risk encirclement.

This has produced heart wrenching situations where the enemy was all but cut off and no unit could advance to close the gap, but by 25/12/41 we had our first units surrendering. The lack of tank divisions has put a lot of stress on our tank brigades to advance often in dangerous ways and to develop a doctrine of attack. Our losses in men has when fighting Hitlerite forces been on par, which is considerably better then we accomplished before. Against the Rumanian Infantry we have inflicted casualty levels often approaching 20:1 and several formations have been routed.

Our doctrines for the shock army's have undergone revision as well. The forces now rely on other units to make their initial break through. A gap in the enemy line of at least 30 km must be made to allow any reasonable sort of exploitation. Best results are achieved when paratroopers drop in close cooperation with the lead troops with the primary drop zone target primary rail junctions to isolate the enemy from easy re-supply. It has been found that without a 30 km gap the initial penetration of our forces is insufficient to stop the enemy from re-deploying backwards. Additionally artillery brigades are being raised to give each Shock Army a Hwz Bde and Light Gun Bde. Tank losses this last week were extremely high, with nearly 500 tanks lost, though the bulk of the losses were in our older obsolete models still attached to formations, but this was due to the intensity of the operations that pushed our tank Bde's hard.

All in all the enemy has been forced backwards on most fronts and STAVKA is reviewing the state of combat formations to begin switching out depleted units for rest and refit. In addition the new High Commissar for the Internal Security Forces (NKVD Regiments) has decided to withdraw them from the front's control and concentrate them under his own supervision. This will free up command space for newly raised brigades. Command burden is still an issue with the Western, Southwestern and Southern Fronts. The newly arrived Moscow Defense Command has freed up the Moscow Military district to take over planning authority for active operations.

The High Commissar for Fortified Region's and Public Works has been busy and a list of possible sites for defensive construction has been sent to Comrade Stalin for his approval. The Fortified Region line in the Crimea has been completed stretching from Yalta to the other coast. The sites of last years battles before Moscow are being reviewed and key points will be fortified. The construction battalions and rail brigades have been busy the last weeks repairing our rail network and undoing the Hitlerite's gauge changes.

Partisan Forces have been busy disrupting the enemies rail networks and the enemy has troops out actively hunting them. Around a dozen partisan battalions are operational and several are well equipped, most have been supplied with proper military small arms and NKVD advisers.

On the production front there is only good news. Hundreds of T-34's stand ready to replace losses and the production facility in Kharkov was moved without incident last week and is again in production. KV-1 production is running strong, and combined with the new T-60 and the newly arriving American Stuart (the western's habit of giving names rather than numbers to tanks and planes is peculiar) our forces are looking to be in a good situation. Losses in T60's this week were around 90, but interestingly this is still below production levels. Also the T-60 suffers fewer losses then any of our T-26, or BT series tanks. Due to our supply of T-34s the British Matilda's they ship us are sitting in Arkangel still.

The Mig 3 production run is finished, some 700 planes remain in our reserve but with 63 units equipped with the plane and losses of up to 80 a week in combat operations this will not last very long. A further 100 IAP regiments (mostly on the front line) are still equipped with either I-153 or some form of I-16. Our supply of modern fighters, a good fraction of which are being used to form new IAP's is insufficient at 1400 air frames to modernize these forces except in a piecemeal fashion. Our supply of spare I-153 is around 300 while the I-16's are about 400 spares. The Yak-7 has entered production, and the American's are now flying over P39's as opposed to the P40's, 195 of which yet remain in reserve.

Artillery remains an issue, but some of the new TOE changes will help especially with regards to Katashuka rocket trucks whose production remains low. Heavy artillery will likely be in shorter supply as the new Artillery bde's fill out but it is an acceptable trade off in the long run. Anti-tank guns are as always in short supply and it is a rare unit that has even half their authorized allotment.

The recent changes to the Tank Bde TOE is detested by the field commanders who complain they have barely a battalion of infantry left to screen their tanks.

Comrade Stalin's person touch with the VVS high command has born fruit it seems as reports have been coming in all week of actual ground support for our combat operations. In other news there have been the following changes of command:
Western Air Command commander Nikolai Naumenko is dismissed (something that we are expecting to happen to a large fraction of the land staff soon) and Nikolai Papivin takes over. Comrade Stalin continues his purge of the Air General staff with the 3 BAK Air Command commander Nikolai Skripko being replaced by Stepan Rybalchenko who takes command of the Kalinin's Front heavy bombers.

Additionally, the following officers performance has warranted promotion and Comrade Stalin has graciously accepted the staff's recommendations to promote the following officers:
7th Airborne Corps commander Ivan Fedyuninsky is promoted to General-Leytenant.
12th Army commander Pavel Ponedelin is promoted to General-Leytenant.
20th Army commander Arseny Borzikov is promoted to General-Leytenant. He is looking to survive the expected purge of the Western Front officers we all here anticipate will happen sooner or later.
51st Army commander Andrei Eremenko is promoted to General-Polkovnik.
18th Army commander Andrei Smirnov is promoted to General-Armii.

Leningrad/Northwestern Fronts

The situation in the north has been quiet, with the Finn's withdrawing and our forces pushing patrols forward to regain the territory. A new Fortified Region completes the line of the 7th Army (Ind) and they are scheduled to replace their three NKVD regiments with 3 brigades, bringing their forces to 4 Rifle divisions, a light rifle brigade, a naval infantry brigade and 3 regular Rifle brigades plus 3 Fortified Regions each reinforced with Mortars and a Mg-Art Bn. The 23rd and 55th Armies are equally in good shape with the 23rd looking to gain at least one infantry brigade reinforcement. The 55th Army continues to dig in at Leningrad.

The Northwestern front has also been relatively quiet. The enemy pulled back to the Narva river and they were able to recapture the critical rail crossing there. It is planned to re-establish a Fortified Region there. The 27th Army and 8th Army though face strong dug in enemy positions. A few probes have been launched one which just this broke the enemy line in the middle but a 10 km gap in his line is not likely to be very exploitable. Still Marshal Buddoney is looking to see what he can do to push the enemy backwards from the banks of the Luga river.

Volkhov Front/2nd Shock Army (STAVKA)/22nd Army (STAVKA)

The 28th Army pushed the enemy out of the much contested woods west of Novogrod for what seems like the tenth time but is facing strong enemy forces and little opportunity to apply our standard infiltration doctrine. It awaits advances from the 31st and 48th Armies to force the enemy to voluntarily withdraw. The 31st and 48th Armies have done an exceptional job in pushing the enemy back and have on a few occasions achieved near pockets. They hope to surround the enemy forces currently holding at Lake Imamen's shoreline including one of his Geburger divisions. They have additionally cooperated with the 2nd Shock and on occasion the 22nd Army to drive the enemy backwards some 50 km in bad terrain.

The 2nd Shock army conducted its first full scale combat operation this week and managed to in conjunction with attacks by the 31st and 22nd Armies and Mountain Cavalry support from the 48th to demolish his front line and isolate but not pocket 2 infantry divisions. In this region the enemies once indomitable 12 Infantrie divisions have been battered down to sizes more akin to brigades in a few cases. The 28th Jäger in the last assault could not keep our troops from their rear area troops. Though it is likely the enemy will break through the pickets to re-establish supplies to the two currently isolated divisions they will suffer from a week out of supply. Still the enemies line is now looking like Ementaller cheese and given the available resources is unlikely to reform and there is a good chance to pocket up to 5 enemy divisions.

The 22nd has regained its honor with several significant assaults driving the enemy westward, including a key attack this week by the 194th Mnt Rifle and 17th and 32nd Rifle divisons on the 95th Infantrie supported by the I/203rd Sec Rgt. The exploiting 27th Cav division of the 2nd Shock now threatens the flanks of the 167th and 206th Infantrie divisions. Its other forces stand ready to assist the 1st Shock in screening attacks to pin down enemy reserves.

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RE: Turn 29 (Part 1 of 3)

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The amount of aircraft that show up for a battle still seems to have randomness.

Tank brigades should be used to support rifle divisions; they're not really 1/3rd the size of a tank division, it's more like 1/4th.

You get more air units in 1942; pretty soon the Luftwaffe has no chance of limiting it's size to anything other than
a monster.

The game is buggered when it comes to air units recovering fatigue, which apparently will be fixed in the next patch.



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Turn 29 (Part 2 of 4)

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Kalinin Front/Western Front

When the orders came from Comrade Stalin for a general offensive to push the Hitlerites back from Moscow the Kalinin Front made the decision to limit its forces to the 34th and 29th Armies and to keep the armies responsible for the defense of Vyzama and Rhzev out of the battle to preserve their strength. The initial gains made in the first week of the deep winter were lost and it looked like moving the enemy back would be nearly impossible. The formation of the Cavalry corps helped produce units capable of both mobility and fire power which proved to be necessary for the developed infiltration doctrine to function. Driving the enemy back 40 km from Vyzama and Rhzev has proven to be a slow painful task. Keeping the cohesion of the armies is also complex.

The 1st Shock Army has helped a great deal in changing the strategic balance. It also had one of the most stunning victories of this part of the campaign where, due in large part to misunderstood orders, a Guards Rifle division assaulted a German infantry division without support, and drove it back. The 1st Guards Corps has proven to be a potent combat force and is used for taking out the strongest opposition formations to allow the other units to advance.

The 1st Shock Army is composed of the 1st Guards Corps (1st, 2nd, 3rd Guards Rifle divisions), 3 tank Bde's, 3 Naval Rifle Bdes, 3 Rifle Bde's and 2 Rifle Divisions. ((need to double check these numbers but that is fairly close))

It seems unlikely we can push the enemy back and recover Smolensk as Comrade Stalin demands but more has been accomplished here then was originally considered likely.

The Western Front forces were largely spectators to the battles going on to the north and south of them as their forces were badly in need of a period or rest and recovery. They did help significantly in the attacks near Bryansk and were vital to pocketing the divisions near there. Currently the 10th Army is preparing to unleash an attack on some weak security forces that will hopefully drive 2 Rifle divisions and a tank Bde 20 km behind the enemy threatening 2 Panzer divisions with encirclement and trapping them against the anvil of the 13th Army and the exploiting 37th Army (Bryansk Front). If Airborne bde's are ready STAVKA has autorized their deployment.

The 20th Army is planning at the same time to assault the weakened 18th Inf(M)division. This unit had blundered into an strong blocking position just south of Rhzev after it failed to take Rhzev by coupe de main and was badly mauled. This will decisively crack the line and the Cavalry Corps to the north is planned to swing down so to threaten the enemy with envelopment.

People here still await Comrade Stalin's "personal management touch" with the officers that command the Western Front, but so far they are still with their units.

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Turn 29 (Part 3 of 4)

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Bryansk Front

Operation Titan

The operation was planned to be an envelopment of the front line formations, largely axis minor allies by the 3rd and 4th Shock Armies in conjunction with Airborne drops. The 40th and 37th Armies were to both assist in the break through and exploit south and north respectively. The truth is the progress has been much slower than expected. The lessons learned here though are vital to future planning.

The initial break through by the infantry of the supporting army's worked well except that insufficiently large gaps were torn in the enemy line. Also the 3rd and 4th Shock armies were forming up as the whole planning was rushed and were not in proper position to exploit.

Stubborn German resistance in two locations was the problem. In the future all efforts will be focused on ensuring these initial assaults work.

The airborne units clearly need more TAP's, only 50% in general and 10% in the worse case of the troops arrived in the drop zones. But otherwise the drops were responsible for the success of the operation in the view of the staff here. Getting reinforcements to the airborne formations is also critical as they are very weak on the week they arrive, so deep drops are deemed too risky at the moment. Also the airborne formations were all newly raised which may also be an issue. The fixed Corps assets of a Mortar Rgt/Bn, Sapper Bn and AA Bn seem to be acceptable.

The Tank Bde's are very weak in exploitation. One Bde assaulting a lone security regiment was caught by what seemed to be the entire Luftwaffe's bomber force. Estimates placed the number of bombers at 201. The attack was stopped as the troops sought shelter from the rain of bombs. Most of the Bde's tanks were destroyed or disabled (track breakages).

While Titan is still on going, it has been judged by Comrade Stalin to be a moderate success and we are somewhat hopeful that the mechanized forces may still achieve further gains. The 3rd and 4th Shock armies are standardized at 3 Rifle Divisions, 3 Naval Rifle Bde, 3 Rifle Bde, 3 Tanks Bde. Current 5 Airborne Bde are attached to the 4th Shock via the two Airborne Corps HQs.

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Turn 29 (Part 4 of 4)

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Southwestern and Southern Front

The situation in the south has been a chaotic mess, and not just due to the driving snow. Both the Southern and Southwestern fronts face a problem. Their defensive lines require the support of each other, and they were at the point they were at due to the terrain. The Southern Front authorized Eremenko's 51st Army with the entirety of the Front's mechanized and bulk of its cavalry forces to go on the offensive. But the weakness of the enemy prompted the 9th to advance in the direction of Odessa driving Rumanian infantry before it. But the lack of defensive terrain makes the advance unsustainable in the long run.

The 51st has been working on attempting to hit as many of the Axis minor ally formations as possible as well as to achieve an envelopment of any unit. As the enemy keeps moving his forces around like a demented game of musical chairs the situation is "fluid" and many partial envelopments have occurred but finally a solid one which should remove one of the more dangerous Mnt bde's from the war has been accomplished largely due to the continued existence of a Tank Division.

The Southern Front is concentrating mainly on inflicting casaulties and not over extending itself.

The Southwestern Front had 50 km of terrain to recover to re-establish its preferred battle line. It has sucessfully pocketed two groups of the enemy and the 12th Armies Mnt Divisions have had great success making up for the mauling the took over the weeks before the winter. The enemy's sternest formation in the area the 1st Rumanian Armoured Division has been hit by 4 attacks and has lost the bulk of its tanks. One of these attacks, where 3 tank brigades charged it after it was forced out of position by an infantry assault resulted in a spectacular battle. The enemy reinforces the floundering 1st with a LW Mixed Flak Bn, our advancing tanks did not even see the enemy before the command tanks were ripped from the line by accurate 88 mm fire, and the light tanks attempting to over-run the enemy were hammered down by 20 mm flak guns. Any tank immobilized due to track losses became a nightmarish target, the noise of the rounds hitting the steel armour was apparently beyond belief, and the crews generally fled the crippled vehicle. Still in a testimony to the bravery of our troops the attack didn't falter even when 80 of the 180 tanks were destroyed by that infernal battalion of AA guns and the 1st was driven back another 10 km.

As the enemy has been driven back in the centre it is now time to look to the forces near Kiev. As there is still a tank division in the 5th Army's order of battle plans are completed for an attack to destroy another Rumanian Mnt Bde and drive the enemy at least 10 km back from the city to re-establish a defensive line behind a water barrier and re-establish the older defensive positions.

The overburden of formations in both fronts must be dealt with. The good thing for both Fronts is that they have clear STOP LINES and the primary goal for both is to establish ground for defense in depth and punish the axis minor allies for their assistance of the Hitlerite invaders. In the best of all world they wish to bag a Panzer formation or two.

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RE: Turn 29 (Part 4 of 4)

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The snow washes out the terrain, makes it harder to see where you are.  You'll want to turn off the weather now and then to take; once the blizzard stops it'll be mud for awhile ( maybe a month ), then the ground is hard and the terrain matters a lot again.  The CV bonus from the blizzard stops, and you'll want lower strength units in defensive mode ( woods, behind rivers, etc. )

A large variety of support units are available in 1942, i'm messing around with flamethrower companies, and flamethrower tank battalions.
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RE: Turn 29 (Part 4 of 4)

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The Soviets change the makeup of rifle squads ( again?! ) in 1942, giving them two LMGs.  You may notice oddities with some units, having a mix of the original rifle squads ( 1 LMG ), the rifle squad(-) with no LMGs, and the 1942 squads ( which will have low experience to begin with ).
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RE: Turn 29 (Part 4 of 4)

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Keep me informed on what you find out with the SU things.  Flamethrowers are the Soviet's friends, virtually all the tank kills I got were to flamethrowers.  I see a lot of "destroyed by flamethrowers" in the attacks as well, basically once the Kar 98 and GrW's are done blasting holes in my advancing troops the first line of my return fire is very often a flamethrower attack.  The other thing I noticed is a lot of damage comes from the SMGs.  I have several independent tank battalions some attached to Cav Corps.  There I'm trying to standardize on a Sapper Bn, Ind Tank Bn or Motorcycle Rgt, Ski Bn or AA Bn.  I may up the sappers to a Rgt later but for now I'll stick with the Bn.  I noticed the 42 Mortar Rgt is actually fewer mortars then the 41 Mortar Bn!  Anti-tank gun Rgt's are again changed, I now have a nightmare mix of those all over the place.

The change to the tank brigades I can't really fathom, reducing the light tanks by half makes some sense since they are just mobile machine guns, but unless they cut the infantry down because they now have fewer tanks to transport them I'm confused as to why they did this.  Mind you they were in reality a lot more desperate then I am right now.  But the 42a change seriously guts the already struggling tank bde.

The soviets were trying to find something that worked, and tried lots of different things.  The whole "to be the best, learn from the best" thing.  I have noticed that already, some units (the ones coming from siberia I think) are all Rifle Squad, the rebuilds&newly raised units are a mix of Rifle Squad and Rifle Squad(-).  I currently have a stock pile of 600 or so Rifle Squad(-).

I was looking at my Cav Corps, holy cow, the mortar's they have just boggles my mind.  No wonder they do so good in combat.  That is also true of the airborne units, it doesn't show up in their CV but they have something like 70 mortars in them, and in combat that is a lot of chances to damage someone.

I also checked my experience for my rocket launcher battalions/regiment are down below 20 small wonder they didn't do much the few times I've seen them committed.
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Turn 29 (Part 4-a of 4)

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1/1/42 STAVKA

Official War Records Office
Soviet Losses to date:

Men Killed: 738 548
Men Captured: 544 172
Men Disabled: 698 807
Guns Lost: 31 206
AFVs Lost: 11 191

Fighters: ---
Fighter Bombers: 8 163
Tactical Bombers: 994
Level Bombers: 2 834
Recon: 501
Transports: 501

Flak Losses: 1 520
Operational Losses: 4 793
Total Aircraft Losses: 12 993

Estimated Axis Losses (from NKVD and KGB sources):

Men Killed: 309 667
Men Captured: 80 888
Men Disabled: 759 301
Guns Lost: 10 127
AFVs Lost: 2 521

Fighters: 1 053
Fighter Bombers: 125
Tactical Bombers: 462
Level Bombers: 1 292
Recon: 296
Transports: 256

Flak Losses: 713
Operational Losses: 1 887
Total Aircraft Losses: 3 454
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RE: Turn 29 (Part 4-a of 4)

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I do not run battles at high message level, so it's hard to estimate how much destruction the flame units are dealing.  I did notice that the 1942 flame tank has frontal armor of 85, so it should be well survivable against smaller AT equipment.

I formed a lot of the flame companies ( sappers ) on one turn; the next turn they disappeared from the attachment lists of many of the Army HQs, perhaps going into the formation pool.

I have not formed any arty bdes yet; my factories haven't piled up lots of excess pieces yet.
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RE: Turn 29 (Part 4-a of 4)

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The 42 flame tank is a modified T-34 from the looks of it.  Odd the boys vanished, let me know if they show up again.  I still can't get over how many tank's were taken out by flame throwers while the 45 mm's spent most of their time firing HE into the oncoming feld grau line.

I'll let you know what the Art Bde are like, I also needed to soak down some AP's as I had 500 of them.  The artillery isn't surplus for me it is coming out of new production but I want to see what they are like in combat.  What is astounding is the number of tanks I have piling up...I think I have nearly 1000 reserve modern medium tanks (T34's, Matilda II, Valentine III)...not many weeks ago every tank was precious.

The turn is advanced and it is a "target rich environment" for pocketing.  If things go well I'll bag 5 panzer divisions this turn plus some infantry.  Assuming everything goes to plan...which is rare in this game.
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RE: Turn 29 (Part 4-a of 4)

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I haven't seen a single tank unit of Matildas or Valentines.  It's probably because I haven't been running my armor straight at the panzer divisions.

A lot of the flamethrower companies wandered up the chain to the military district or front HQs; the ones in the airborne corps have stayed there.

I have three flame tank batts; two are at army HQ level and one was directly attached to a rifle corps; I may get them in a fight this turn and check the results at high message level.
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RE: Turn 29 (Part 4-a of 4)

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I just sent about 150k men against a German infantry division of 10k; the flame battalion had about 20 vehicles go into the fight, experience at 39.  I ran the battle on level 4.  One tank was damaged by a 50mm AT gun, another a casualty when I wasn't looking.  The flamethrowers on the tanks damaged/destroyed 5 German elements, the guns took care of at 7, maybe up to about a dozen; I started counting a little late.
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Turn 30

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15/1/1942 STAVKA

Comrade Stalin is in a very bad mood, and has been asking every General he runs into "Where are my Panzer divisions?." Black sedan's have been seen moving through Moscow, and several of my collegues have vanished from meetings and given that special trains have been going to Novosibirsk in the last week we all suspect the worst. Five Hitlerite panzer divisions were ripe for pocketing, our men were prepared, special vodka allowances had been given, the Political Commisars had given rousing speaches and...it failed. One division was isolated but the others, including the two before Bryansk which were the target of the operation we had privately nick-named "dead bolt" just could not be sealed off. Apparently the land lines were down, the map were intially turned around, someone didn't account for magnetic declination in compass readings, someone forgot to put the gas tank lids back on, endless reasons for not enough movement. The only reason I suspect we are all not on the trains is that the enemy inexplicably left some of those divisons where they were, and now their pocketing is assured.

Outside of our very angry supreme leader the week didn't go all poorly, even though it is apparent that the enemy is recovering and adapting to the cold.

The enemy is being driven back on multiple fronts. The Northwest Front has started cracking the enemies Luga defences a small section at a time. With the 22nd Air Landing division and the 295th Infantrie division being driven out of strong fortifications by massing the several divisions and brigades against each. The lines are now stretching thiner and thiner and although the planned offensive near Kiev did not go at all to plan with the attacks by the 45th Tank Division blocked by stuborn resistance of the retreated troops and the tank division being bombed while marshalling for the exploitation attack. Still the situaiton overall is promising. The Southern and Southwestern fronts report a thin screen of Rumanian units which they tend to assault to break the line in several places. But after last weeks fiasco no one is willing to promise much still it looks very good to recover our old positions before Kiev.

An artillery Rgt RVGK is renamed to the 1st Guards Art Rgt RVGK in the 51st Army.
In recognition for their astounding work the 2 MTAP-ChF is renamed to 1 GBAP (IL-4:Level Bomber), this unit holds by a considerable margin the highest number of enemy planes killed (48) with a further a large number of base facilities destroyed (56 ground kills).
The 44th Mountain Division is renamed the 1st Gds Mountain Division in reconginition for its efforts in holding off the enemy during the retreat and its recent battle successes. The 18th Army's 176th Rifle Division is renamed 6th Guards Rifle Division, it will be replaced and moved up to the 2nd Shock Army to fill out the 2nd Guards Corps.

Even with the mood of Comrade Stalin, his signature was obtained for the following very worthy individuals:
10th Airborne Corps commander Fyodor Tolbukhin is promoted to General-Leytenant in recongnition of his units considerable contribution to the sucesses of the still ongoig Operation Titan. As well the most successful part of that operation the 4th Shock Army sees its commander Ilya Smirnov promoted to General-Polkovnik.

From NKVD and KGB sources plus the battle reports the enemy lost the following formations:

1st, 2nd, 6th, and 11th Rumanian Infantry Divisions. The 1st and 2nd surrendered to the airborne troops and an assault from the 3rd Army. The 11th shattered in combat and we think they disbanded the 6th due to losses.
1st Rum Mnt Bde and 134th Infantrie divsion were captured by the 16th Army forces surounding them after a series of minor battles exhausted their supplies.

The map below shows the state at the end of the failed "Operation Deadbolt"...

Player Notes:
On all the maps posted "supply state" is the soft factor in the color coded triangle.
This is also "iron man" in that I have an "ongoing save file" and don't reload and such.

For the axis players: Never ever unless the situaion is beyond desperate commit the minor axis allies to your battle line in the 41 blizzards. I feel almost bad about bashing them around.

ZOC to ZOC movement sucks your ability to move...time and again I come up what looks to be 1 MP short. A fairly large fraction of the vocabulary I learned in barracks got used during the turn. Part of the problem is that if you build up to assault something the AI will reinforce that hex so I kept the follow on units behind the lines...but then you are very very dependent on movement allowance and they just could not do it. Deadbolt maybe would have worked with one more week of stealthy build up but I wasn't sure how long it would keep those two panzers there. "Make-er big, or sleep in the street time." And well the street is was...I was nearly tempted into an air drop but I have only 9 functional transport planes...

I am seriously tempted by the beta patch...even though I'm a leery of beta patches...but it might explain where the 1st Pz division got to!

For the developers (asuming any of you are reading): you need to look at the AI code that is keeping those Pz divisions in place. I can't fathom for the life of me why the AI didn't move some of the Pz divisions and instead relies on paper mache units to guard their flanks.

randallw, thanks for the updated information on the units. I spotted a few nice TOE changes coming down the pipeline. Plus the AA Bde are soaking up my excess 76 mm AA guns. The Art Bde's are now moving into position...I'm not really sure how these work, I'm hoping I can fire from 2 hexes out have to see. They are at about 50% strength at the moment. So in a few turns at most I'll see what they are like. Still will build the remaining 4 though.

I have 1600 Rifle Squad(-) in my reserve pool...wow.

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