AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:09 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 06, 44
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Sub attack near Puerto Princesa at 70,79

Japanese Ships
DD Oite
DD Hatakaze
DD Tatsukaze
DD Asanagi

Allied Ships
SS Billfish

SS Billfish launches 6 torpedoes at DD Oite
Billfish diving deep ....
DD Tatsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tatsukaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Asanagi attacking submerged sub ....
DD Asanagi cannot establish contact with SS Billfish
SS Billfish eludes ASW attack from DD Asanagi
SS Billfish eludes DD Asanagi by diving deep
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

not happy about my subs attacking an ASW TF but as long as it isn´t a E killer group I can live with it...

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ASW attack near Brunei at 65,83

Japanese Ships
E W-29
E W-27
E W-26
xAK Hokkai Maru
xAK Yahiko Maru
xAK Kosin Maru
xAK Uga Maru
xAK Muroran Maru
xAK Toyokawa Maru
xAK Naples Maru
xAK Aden Maru
E W-33
E W-30

Allied Ships
SS Gabilan, hits 1

SS Gabilan is sighted by escort
E W-33 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-30 fails to find sub and abandons search
E W-33 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-33 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-33 attacking submerged sub ....
E W-33 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Bataan at 77,77

Japanese Ships
AK Sakura Maru, Torpedo hits 1
PB Genmei Maru
PB Kiko Maru
PB Taiko Maru
PB Toshi Maru #7
PB Takunan Maru #3
PB Shintohoku Maru
SC CHa-37
SC CHa-29
SC CHa-20
SC Ch 50
AK Sasako Maru
AK Sagami Maru
AK Hirokawa Maru
xAP Teibi Maru
xAP Naminoue Maru
xAP Kobe Maru
xAP Hakusan Maru
xAP Hie Maru
xAP Argentina Maru
xAP Teia Maru
xAP Teiko Maru
xAK Yosida Maru #3
xAK Utide Maru
xAK Nihonka Maru
xAK Kiyoshima Maru
xAK Giyu Maru
xAK Gosei Maru
xAK Teiryu Maru
xAK Tempei Maru
xAK Tensin Maru
xAK Unyo Maru
xAK Daigen Maru
xAK Manyo Maru
xAK Mexico Maru
xAK Aobasan Maru
xAK Hokkai Maru
xAK Goyo Maru
E Nuwashima
E Tsubame
PB Ginyo Maru
PB Daitei Maru

Allied Ships
SS Whale, hits 2

SS Whale launches 6 torpedoes at AK Sakura Maru
Whale diving deep ....
E Nuwashima attacking submerged sub ....
E Tsubame fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Ginyo Maru fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Daitei Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Nuwashima fails to find sub and abandons search
E Tsubame attacking submerged sub ....
PB Daitei Maru fails to find sub and abandons search
E Tsubame attacking submerged sub ....
E Tsubame fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Tsubame fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Tsubame fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

huge TF, guess the hit is FOW...

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Sub attack near Groot Natoena at 60,80

Japanese Ships
PC Nire
DD Tadeyame
DD Myojinami

Allied Ships
SS Gudgeon

SS Gudgeon launches 6 torpedoes at PC Nire
Gudgeon diving deep ....
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Myojinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

should have kept doing my sub statistics and also count the torps being spent in total... something I am going to do right from the start if I ever start another PBEM... would be cool if tracker could do that for me... [:D]

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Sub attack near Cam Ranh Bay at 72,72

Japanese Ships
PB Shinko Maru #3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
E Shirakami
PB Ryusei Maru
xAK Toei Maru
xAK Nissen Maru #3
xAK Syunsei Maru
xAK Yamahuzi Maru
E Hirashima

Allied Ships
SS Skate

SS Skate launches 4 torpedoes at PB Shinko Maru #3
Skate diving deep ....
E Hirashima fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hirashima fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hirashima fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hirashima fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hirashima fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Lomblen at 69,111

Japanese Ships
SS I-183, hits 17, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA Chicago, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage [:(]
CL Denver
CL Montpelier
DD Cowell
DD Ammen
DD Thatcher
DD Terry
DD Dashiell
DD Daly

SS I-183 launches 6 torpedoes at CA Chicago
DD Thatcher attacking submerged sub ....
DD Terry fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Dashiell fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Daly fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Thatcher fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Terry attacking submerged sub ....
DD Daly attacking submerged sub ....
DD Terry fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Daly attacking submerged sub ....
Debris floats to surface in area of attack!
Escort abandons search for sub

my carrier group is attacked again on the way North towards Java and the damned I-183 manages to achieve three hits on the undamaged CA Chicago that sinks immediately... quite an achievement on an undamaged heavy cruiser during daylight... a tragedy but only the second heavy cruiser that is lost in the war... the sub is reported sunk in return but that´s only a small consolation prize... the carriers again weren´t spotted but I guess Rainer is aware of my fleet coming towards him as several Nells on nav search were shot down over my carriers...

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Morning Air attack on Dadjangas , at 78,93

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 18

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet

no leaking Cap at all today...

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Morning Air attack on Jolo , at 74,90

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 72
P-38J Lightning x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 28
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 86

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet *

we take out Jolo today... 40 enemy fighters reported there (probably a 27 fighter daitai) but none of them in the air...

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Morning Air attack on Jolo , at 74,90

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 26
P-38J Lightning x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 39

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Jolo , at 74,90

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 9
Runway hits 27

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

they don´t seem to all sit on the field either though...

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Morning Air attack on Jolo , at 74,90

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 23

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Dadjangas , at 78,93

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 18

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet

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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 50

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 81

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 26

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 48

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 24

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 8

No Allied losses

Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 10

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 10

No Allied losses

Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:58 am

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 07, 44
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ASW attack near Torishima at 109,66

Japanese Ships
E Ishinui
E No.8

Allied Ships
SS Harder, hits 20, heavy damage

SS Harder is sighted by escort
E Ishinui fails to find sub and abandons search
E No.8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E No.8 attacking submerged sub ....
Large oil slick appears over area of attack!
Escort abandons search for sub

hurrey, hurrey! And the new super E sink the next sub, hit by four Type 2 depth charges... sorry guys, but this is ridicoulos... I was wondering if it is still worth it to keep my subs in the frontlines hunting enemy ressource/oil/fuel convoys when these new E types weren´t around so it becomes more and more clear now that I should withdraw all my subs as more and more of these ASW 14 super vessels show up... my subs all got patrol zones set so they are not static nor do they get spotted by air search all the time so detection level isn´t a real issue here... the 12 DC mount is the killer... [:(] it was yet again enouth that only ONE of these ships actually engaged the sub...

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Submarine attack near Colombo at 27,46

Japanese Ships
SS I-159, hits 18, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Isaac Sweers
DD Nizam
DD Nestor
DD Napier

SS I-159 is located by DD Isaac Sweers
I-159 diving deep ....
DD Nizam fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Nestor attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-159 forced to surface!
DD Nestor firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Napier firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Nizam firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Nestor firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Napier firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Nizam firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Napier firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

which actually means these super E vessels with exp around 40-45 achieve the same results as highly experienced British and US DD... nothing you can really do about them...

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Amphibious Assault at Watampone

TF 297 troops unloading over beach at Watampone, 66,105

Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (0 destroyed, 5 disabled)

8 Naval Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 111th USN Base Force /2

we land a force at the empty Wattambone... got some inf units and base forces to seize and hold the place, the enemy only got low value troops at this side of the coast and I doubt he will try to attack... LCT convoys will start to move in engineering units from Kendari to build up the place, potential level 9 airfield...

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Sub attack near Cam Ranh Bay at 63,75

Japanese Ships
DD Tadeyame
PC Nire
DD Myojinami

Allied Ships
SS Gurnard

SS Gurnard launches 6 torpedoes at DD Tadeyame
Gurnard diving deep ....
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Myojinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinami attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

nothing in the IJN arsenal is nearly as good as the E No.x...

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Morning Air attack on Wuchow , at 76,57

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Wuchow , at 76,57

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Wuchow , at 76,57

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

the usual way sweeps show up in the game... no leaking Cap from Canton (100+ fighters reported there)...

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Morning Air attack on Jolo , at 74,90

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 62
P-38J Lightning x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 79

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Jolo , at 74,90

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 35
P-38J Lightning x 17

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 49

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Jolo , at 74,90

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 13
P-38J Lightning x 10

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Jolo , at 74,90

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 15

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Jolo , at 74,90

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 11

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Wuchow , at 76,57

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 9

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

the super ego must have never really played this game, otherwise he wouldn´t stubbornly insist on how much realism is built in... built in stupidity and borked by design... it´s not the borked way it works that is pissing me off, it´s the stupidity of ppl that keep on telling how great it is when no AAR shows anything different from what is shown here... but hey, if your ego is big enough, you probably believe your own propaganda... oh wait, just searching the net about 3 fighters of each squadron lost on the way to target... this is how it must have been in real life... it´s so obvious and so consitent that this must have come up since day one of testing so everyone is/was aware of it so telling everything would be near perfect is just silly... not the faulty routine is the problem, denying the fault it is...

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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 63

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 220

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 76

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 11

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 31

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

our carriers are covering the landings at Wattambone against strikes coming from Java but there wasn´t anything showing up but some Nells and Mavis on navsearch...

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Submarine attack near Cam Ranh Bay at 63,75

Japanese Ships
PC Take
PC Nire
DD Tadeyame
DD Myojinami

Allied Ships
SS Gurnard, hits 8, and is sunk

SS Gurnard is located by PC Take
Gurnard diving deep ....
DD Tadeyame attacking submerged sub ....
SS Gurnard forced to surface!
DD Tadeyame firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Myojinami firing on surfaced sub ....
PC Take firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

what a great day, two USN subs sunk for nothing in return... guess even the Kriegsmarine ratio was better in real life...

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:06 am

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 08, 44
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Sub attack near Tanegashima at 103,67

Japanese Ships
xAKL Taiyo Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PB Taian Maru

Allied Ships
SS Aspro, hits 3

SS Aspro launches 6 torpedoes at xAKL Taiyo Maru
PB Taian Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Taian Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Taian Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Taian Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Taian Maru attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

for two subs sunk yesterday, we kill a xAKL today... the PB sends Aspro home damaged, suffering 13 sys 24 flt 9 eng...

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ASW attack near Busuanga at 77,81

Japanese Ships
DD Hatakaze
DD Tatsukaze
DD Asanagi

Allied Ships
SS KXVII, hits 3

SS KXVII launches 4 torpedoes at DD Hatakaze
DD Tatsukaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asanagi attacking submerged sub ....
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asanagi attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

missed salvo, 7 sys..

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Sub attack near Groot Natoena at 60,79

Japanese Ships
TK San Pedro Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
AO Shiretoko
DD Suruyame

Allied Ships
SS Cod, hits 1

SS Cod launches 6 torpedoes at TK San Pedro Maru
Cod diving deep ....
DD Suruyame attacking submerged sub ....
DD Suruyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Suruyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Suruyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Cod hits a tanker but also suffers damage, retiring with 6 sys 27 flt... the subs have become one shot weapons, they usually never run out of fuel or torps as they won´t be long enough on station...

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Morning Air attack on Wuchow , at 76,57

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

forgot to stand down the P-38 at Hanoi, sweeps look as silly as always...

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Morning Air attack on Wuchow , at 76,57

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

No.2

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Morning Air attack on Wuchow , at 76,57

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 31

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

and NO.3 with the two fragments of No.1 and No.2... please note that flying in formation wasn´t a common practice of squadrons in real life WWII, they just all took off and the aircraft then individually tried to find their target... if you don´t believe that or have read anything different, please feel free to take a history lesson from a guy that knows better than you but hasn´t fired up the game for a long time...

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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 78

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 126

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 14

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 38

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

lots of op losses for the enemy today...

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ASW attack near Culion at 74,77

Japanese Ships
E Asagao
SC Ch 39
SC Ch 24
SC Ch 41

Allied Ships
SS Grayling, hits 1

SS Grayling is located by E Asagao
Grayling diving deep ....
E Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 41 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Asagao attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 41 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Asagao fails to find sub and abandons search
SC Ch 41 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 41 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 41 attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

Grayling gets away... compared to yesterday, our subs had a great day...

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Ground combat at Watampone (66,105)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12099 troops, 113 guns, 334 vehicles, Assault Value = 336

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 153

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 153 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Watampone !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:

Assaulting units:
158th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion
15th NZ Brigade
111th USN Base Force
179th USAAF Base Force

seizing the empty base, this force is easily strong enough to hold the place, the enemy won´t attack us anyway I guess... both Makassar and the base North of Watampone got a small Japanese garisson but this potential level 9 airfield was left empty...

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:26 am

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 09, 44
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ASW attack near Dili at 72,117

Japanese Ships
SS RO-46, hits 7, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Abbot
CA Baltimore
CL Boise
DD Boyd
DD Kimberly
DD Conner
DD Chauncey
DD Charrette

SS RO-46 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Abbot
RO-46 diving deep ....
DD Kimberly attacking submerged sub ....
DD Conner fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Chauncey fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Charrette fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kimberly fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kimberly attacking submerged sub ....
DD Kimberly fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kimberly fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kimberly attacking submerged sub ....
DD Kimberly fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

the carrier and invasion fleet is retiring to Darwin again when they run over an enemy sub that dares to attack one of the escorts of a CV TF... torps missed and the sub being put out of action... probably not sunk...

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Morning Air attack on Samarinda , at 65,96

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 9
N1K1-J George x 45 [X(]

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 4 destroyed

CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
252 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 31 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes

ordered a full strike on Samarinda today, with lots of fighters on sweep and escort, followed by the full strenght B-24 force at Manada... Samarinda recon showed some 40 fighters there (so I expected one daitai) with Balikpapan one hex West having twice the number of fighters and therefore I´ve ordered the first strike to attack Samarinda to knock out the airfield there and to kill some leaking fighters from Balikpapan... well, it seems there were either a hell a lot more fighters at Samarinda today or nearly all were coming over from Balikpapan... the Corsairs did well at start, taking down more than a dozen enemies but when the Corsairs ran out of the dive, they were all either shot down or sent home damaged, causing the loss of one third of this squadron with 6 pilots KIA/MIA (including two aces)...

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Morning Air attack on Samarinda , at 65,96

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 2
N1K1-J George x 22

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 126

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 13 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet *
16 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet *
18 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet *
18 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet *
18 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet *
18 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet *
16 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet *

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 14 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
253 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes

must be Jackpot time this turn, don´t know if I have ever seen a 7 squadron sweep showing up over the target, after the initial single squadron sweep took out the majority of the enemy Cap, this mega sweep had no problem taking out the rest... don´t know what all has gone wrong in this turn, it must have been a mega screw up, otherwise the routine wouldn´t have sent 7 squadrons in at the same time I guess... I´m not asking for all squadrons in one sweep, but there should be at least some sense behind how the strikes look like, it wasn´t a 99% screw up in real life...

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Morning Air attack on Samarinda , at 65,96

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 75

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 43
Airbase supply hits 12
Runway hits 172

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes

then the bombers show up, without a single escort... ok, means the sweeps went in first and the squadrons set to escort failed and also went in first... and no, having the fighters at the same altitude has never made any difference for me... only spreading out the squadrons over a dozen airfields gives me better "coordination", something that is totally odd... the airfield is trashed and with very few enemy troops (therefore very few engineers) at the base it will take forever to repair the damage... next target is going to be Balikpapan (the enemy has abandoned it after today´s massacre) and as soon as the airfields are knocked out, there is not going to be a single tanker convoy picking up fuel or oil from Balikpapan, Samarinda or Tarakan again... the loss of Manado actually meant the loss of all the oil/fuel in Southern Borneo for the Japanese...

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Morning Air attack on Zamboanga , at 75,89

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 46

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 3 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 89

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

the Mitchells do quite well too...

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Morning Air attack on Zamboanga , at 75,89

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 11
Runway hits 37

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

the enemy had Vals here, guess these were flying nav search or ASW our subs and other TFs in the area spotted them a couple of times...

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Morning Air attack on Samarinda , at 65,96

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 26

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 49

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Samarinda , at 65,96

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 7
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Samarinda , at 65,96

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 23

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Samarinda , at 65,96

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed on ground

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

not a single escort was actually escorting the bombers, guess three or four of the eight Corsair squadrons were set to escort, all showed up sweeping before the bombers... while this may work well in terms of losses in the end, it nevertheless again was a total screw up... all four squadrons failing to escort the bombers?

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Afternoon Air attack on Wuchow , at 76,57

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 21

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

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Afternoon Air attack on Wuchow , at 76,57

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

guess I should stand down my P-38 at Hanoi, not really a good idea to forget them again...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Brunei at 65,87

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 24

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 9 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Uzuki
DD Minazuki
DD Shinonome
DD Yayoi

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
6 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
6 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
261 Ku S-2 with A6M2 Zero (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead

had my USN patrol bombers at 17 hex range, have now reduced the range to 15 to avaid attacks against TFs that are capped at Brunei or Miri...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Brunei at 65,87

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Uzuki
DD Yayoi

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
261 Ku S-2 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 1000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Brunei at 65,87

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Yayoi
DD Uzuki

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
261 Ku S-2 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Brunei at 65,87

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Yayoi
DD Uzuki

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Wuchow , at 76,57

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:43 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 10, 44
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Sub attack near Groot Natoena at 60,84

Japanese Ships
E Yomogi
E Tomozuru
E Hatsukari

Allied Ships
SS Dace, hits 3

SS Dace launches 6 torpedoes at E Yomogi
Dace diving deep ....
E Tomozuru attacking submerged sub ....
E Hatsukari fails to find sub and abandons search
E Tomozuru fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Tomozuru fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Tomozuru fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Tomozuru fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Tomozuru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Dace ends up attacking one of the "normal" E ASW TFs and misses to take a hit and two near misses in return... 23 sys 42 flt...

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what now follows isn´t something I have edited or that is fake, it happened in this PBEM and can be confirmed by my opponent...

Morning Air attack on Sangi , at 77,97

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 49

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 33
F4U-1A Corsair x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 18 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
VMF-113 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
VMF-115 with F4U-1A Corsair (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
VMF-217 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
VMF-224 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
VMF-225 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
VMF-311 with F4U-1A Corsair (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Raid is overhead
VMF-441 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
80th FG/90th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 42000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
475th FG/432nd FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 42000
Raid is overhead
49th FG/9th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 19 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes

Sangi is the small island North East of Manado that is being built up by our sea bee units... to cover the LCT convoys going there we have place a single Thunderbolt squadron there, set to 30 Cap... two base forces and a USMC def. btn are providing air support and radar... the enemy has massed fighter units at Davao today and probably due to being pissed off by the too big (for my taste) success of my sweeps against Samarinda yesterday, he has ordered his first line units to sweep Sangi to take out the 30-40 fighters he had intel and ends up facing the Thud squadron at Sangi plus Thuds from Manado plus Corsairs from 7 squadrons leaking from Manado, leaving us with 63 vs. 49 fighters at the start of the engagement... raid was detected by radar... what then followed must have been as awful to watch for my opponent as it was for me... his fighters were set to 6000ft (an altitude the enemy had great success BEFORE radar was working again) and all our squadrons were diving, shooting, diving, shooting, diving, shooting, diving, shooting, diving, shooting, diving, shooting right from the start until the end of the battle... the result was... omg... around 40 Tojos shot down for 1 Thunderbolt destroyed... 49 fighters on sweep meeting 63 fighters on Cap resulting in 40:1 aircraft lost?

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Morning Air attack on Sangi , at 77,97

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 30

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 26
F4U-1A Corsair x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 15 destroyed

CAP engaged:
VMF-113 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
VMF-115 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
VMF-217 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
VMF-224 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
VMF-225 with F4U-1A Corsair (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
VMF-311 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
49th FG/9th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
80th FG/90th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 42000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
475th FG/432nd FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 42000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes

I bet the moment the Tojos were shot down in droves Rainer hoped his Franks would fail to fly... well, they flew... 30 Franks incoming against still 52 fighters on Cap... the Franks at 6000ft, the Cap alerted by radar... guess how that turned out... dive, shoot, dive, shoot, dive, shoot, dive, shoot, dive, shoot, dive, shoot, dive, shoot, dive, shoot, dive, shoot until all Franks were shot down or damaged for not a single US fighter destroyed during the replay... at this moment we were at 60+:1 kill rate... the enemy has sent 79 fighters at this point, so actually outnumbered us 79:63 in total at this point...

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Morning Air attack on Cotabato , at 78,90

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 12

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet *

CAP engaged:
260th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(12 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes

we have sent out the Lightnings to attack leaking Cap at Cotabato and the P-38 did quite well here, the Tojo tally for today is further increasing...

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Morning Air attack on Cotabato , at 78,90

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet *

CAP engaged:
260th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 84 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Cotabato , at 78,90

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 25

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Sangi , at 77,97

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 7

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 23
F4U-1A Corsair x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
VMF-113 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
VMF-115 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
VMF-217 with F4U-1A Corsair (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
VMF-224 with F4U-1A Corsair (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
VMF-311 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
49th FG/9th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 11 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
80th FG/90th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 42000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
VMF-225 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
475th FG/432nd FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 42000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes

and here´s the rest of the Frank sweep... 6 more are coming in to be massacred... makes it a 85:63 in total fighter numbers with total losses over Sangi being something like 70:3... would I post this result in the main forum, I sure would hear something like "your opponent has sent in totally green pilots and you were fielding elite pilots" or "the Mars was in wrong position to the Sun" or "your opponent forgot to sacrifice a lamb" or something else... well, Rainer told me he has sent in his normal frontline pilots that got 70 air skill with 50+ def skill, which is nothing different from what I´m using in my squadrons (while I´m in the slow process of replacing my pilots with 70 air 70 def skill pilots, but on average, both sides´ pilots were like clones)... in total, the enemy outnumbered us but this doesn´t matter as the strike routine takes care of any numerical advantages (and in this case, it didn´t even look that bad in terms of how the strikes looked like if you leave aside the 6 Franks that were lost on the way to the target)... we had radar and this enabled all available Thuds at Sangi to scramble, so setting a high Cap % isn´t necessary anymore (this is also true for the enemy as he routinely gets all his ac into the air now)...

so the pilots being equal, the enemy getting the "sweep bonus", "outnumbering" us, having not all that bad ac with the Tojo still doing very well usually and the Frank being quite a match for our fighters and the end result is a 70:3 loop... yeah, pure realism... real life kill rates went up to 10:1 at times, later in the war, having well trained Allied pilots flying excellent aircraft vs green Japanese pilots flying outdated aircraft like Oscars, Zekes or unreliable more modern types (the unreliability thing isn´t factored in in A2A of the game but only in the service rating so let´s leave this beside)... kill rates higher than 5:1 for the Allied were already great so what should I think about a 70:3 kill rate against Japanese pilots that are as good as the Allied flying aircraft that are far superior in A2A than the average Japanese fighter of real life? Radar has spotted the incoming raids, the Thuds were reinforced by 40 fighters from Manado and the enemy was at 6000ft which seems to be the main problem (wouldn´t matter if he would be at 30000ft though as radar would send our fighters just further up)... this alltogether then ends up in a never ending dive session that tears the enemy apart no matter how many fighters he would send in... with the 40+ Allied fighters still remaining at the end of this engagement we would have been able to take down another 150 enemy fighters! I don´t know if these never ending dive silliness is a poor attempt to simulate zoom and boom tactics but no matter if diving or not, these kill rates are nothing but a plain stupid thing... recently I bitched about 75 Lightnings flown by elite pilots (far better than my pilots in this case) losing 22:1 vs 30 Zekes/Georges on Cap that had the never ending dive, today I see the same stupidity just the other way around... I really don´t care which side is suffering, when I look at what is facing each other and I look at the results in the end then either I think it is ok (booh, or even realistic) or I think it is total stupidity. Both the recently instance with my P-38 as well as this turn´s happenings over Sangi is something I would call a totally borked routine. It´s not only the hardcoded screw up of every mission flown when it´s only about luck if you have something you would call a realistic strike (go and play BoB bombing the Reich to get some tips) this all then is made worse by a totally out of whack air to air routine that is absolutely ignoring physics or how things actually turned out 66 years ago.

Sorry people, I may be bitching a lot, I may be annoying, I may be going a step too far at times but I´m so annoyed about the stubborn ignorance that keeps on telling oh how realistic everything is. Or going the other way, blaming the players for exploiting something. Well, the strato sweep was the best exploit you could do as long as land based radar worked (never worked against nav based radar) and I´ve said it 50 times, everything is going to become worse when land based radar actually works again. Not because the strato sweep would be neutralized (now you most often see everything diving on your ac even though the enemy can´t even reach you - same as in WITP, explained with an argument like "your fighters have to come down to the enemy" - and then they get dived by the enemy when the come down or what?) but because radar is godmode now, just like it was in WITP. Do I think it is the same as in WITP? No, sorry, it is worse! Why? Because in WITP you had the bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce... this is now called dive... the difference is that in WITP when you had equally experienced pilots in first line aircraft you still could do "ok" while still suffering horrendous losses. Now you get loops like this one here. This is just off, sorry, it´s ridicoulos.

You know, the silliness trumps in the latest comment of the super ego posting:

Another interesting thing you'll see is players stating "when I fly my Sweeps at 45k' They rule the skies and take advantage of the sweep bonus...something isn't right about that. When they are told that they can see more historical results by flying more normal altitudes the totally ignore the obvious and continue to fly high altitude sweeps while complaining that the system is "broken"....

You can lead a horse to water....

this is when I laugh my a$$ off because it yet again proves that the main responsible for all this is still not playing the game or still fails to actually realize that most of his comments about the game are plain wrong (something he seems to have been told by the betas already). Well, as you can see in the above example (and in most examples in this AAR since radar has been working again), the aircraft are NOT set to their ceiling, neither the Japanese, nor the Allied, in the case at Sangi, not a single ac was flying even near it´s ceiling. But hey, there sure is another silly explanation for a result like this, probably one like "your opponent has done it wrong"... I´ve bitched about the strato sweep during the full year land based radar was broken, while me and my opponent both using the strato sweep, at the same time I´ve said it probably is going to become worse when land based radar is going to work again and that´s exactly how it is. Leaves me with the question if land based radar has never worked during development or if the results back then already were like they are now, or if the testing never made it out of Dec. 41 just like most of the brown nosers´ games seem to never make it further than 5/42. The funny thing is that you then hear more and more people complaining about the same things as they reach later stages of the game with more and more loops.

Again, it´s not the game that is pissing me off, it´s the fact that some ppl still insist on how realistic it is, not admiting that there is a problem. I stopped bitching about the strato sweeps the day when it was officially admitted it would be an "exploit". But 10 months long it was said everything is working 100% realistic. It can´t, it is a game, but then don´t come up with those fantasy explanations why this or that happened please. In WITP everyone accepted the weaknesses because there was no chance to get them solved. Since AE has been out, there are people that suddenly think everything is near perfect or even realistic because there are halve a dozen more messages during air combat. AE has not only done one step forward, it has done lots of steps forward, it is a fully enhanced WITP and overal the far better GAME. But this won´t ever keep me from saying that these kind of results are nothing but stupid. Many things (if not all) are different from real life and many things can be done that couldn´t be done in real life, it´s a game and this is good for the game. If the Japanese can do more than in real life, then this is what really makes the game interesting. But if you then show up telling someone that this is realistic, then this is causing me

It´s great to have an opponent like Rainer who´s not only a realiable and sneaky opponent but who´s also thinking the same about all this shortcomings of the game like I do, even though he isn´t by far not as vocal as I may be. So many things in this game can´t be matched by any other game, the support is awesome, so many things were improved or it simply was said it wasn´t possible, but nearly with everything related to the air war (one of the most important aspects) I again go with what a beta tester told me over a year ago:

The longer you play, the more you will find out how borked the airroutines really are. Whise words...

at the moment I´ve got some issues with these E ship classes available in 44/45 but that´s more going into the direction of what I´ve written above in what is good for the game (boosting the morale and ASW ability of the Japanese player), but this is by far not as annoying as the airroutines which are just off the line.

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Miri at 64,87

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
A6M5 Zero x 7
N1K1-J George x 2

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 12 damaged

Japanese Ships
PB Yamahagi Maru #3, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PB Kamitsu Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Oyashima Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
8 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead
253 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead
261 Ku S-2 with A6M2 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead

wanted to shorten the range of these bombers last time but forgot about it... it paid off for us as the Cap was weak and weather was great...

crsutton · Post by **crsutton** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:21 pm

I will say that I find the tojo to be mostly outclassed by any second generation fighter. Surprisingly the hellcat seems to eat them up even though it is not faster. Thunderbolts, corsairs and lightnings have little problem in my game. Basically speed kills. It had its day but without armor and only middling speed the tojo is becoming obsolete. My oppoent has decided to build jacks and tonys as well and they seem to be much better fighters vs the heavy bombers. The tony really does shoot down a few liberators. But they are not very good vs my fighters because they are much slower, and the tony has a pretty poor climb rate as well which I believe is a big factor in beating the dive. I really don't worry about the Frank or George so much. I know that I will face them in the next few months but with a service rating of three, I expect to kill a lot of them on the ground.

Still the never ending dive rules and now that I have better planes it only works all that better. We have a ceiling cap of 29,000 feet so a lot of our combat takes place at 29k. The results are a little more balanced but the better Allied fighters still own the tojo.

TheElf · Post by **TheElf** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:08 am

ORIGINAL: castor troy

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and here´s what I call one of the silly results the air routine is bringing up near constantly...

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 64,97

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 9
N1K1-J George x 14

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 74
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 3 destroyed
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Hakaze, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Hokaze
DD Tawakaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
9 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
6 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
24 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 44000 feet *
6 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 44000 feet *
8 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 44000 feet *

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
253 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead

ok, you probably are going to ask why... why? because the 74 P-38J that are flown by the best pilots available to the USAAF are shot to pieces by 23 enemy fighters as they lose no less than 22 P-38... the P-38 are set to escort, well, they show up with the bombers but the game treats them as sweep (would that be an advantage then??? [8|]), probably the usual coordination silliness (yes, I don´t care about altitude as it just doesn´t matter as coordination is something I call "screwed by design")... what happens then? Do I even have to say the enemy had the never ending dive? The strike was picked up by radar, resulting in 16 min pre warning for the Japanese fighters which are set to 6000ft... the George unit shows up with "Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes"... and then I can watch the replay with the Japanese fighters diving and diving and diving and diving and diving until the point I thought, heck, this GAME is so silly, why not using a board game where all aircraft are the same and the higher dice wins... Lightning after Lightning was sent home burning and nearly two dozen crashed... the Lightnings were able to take down one Zero and damage two Georges... yeah, air to air routines are a masterpiece of computer programming for sure... the flying circus of Lightnings outnumbered the enemy 3.5:1, they had the better aircraft, they had a tactical advantage (height anyone?) and the had overall better pilots as my flying circus didn´t meet two enemy expert units... but hey, why should that mean the game could come up with at least a somewhat reasonable result? It can´t because it´s borked... unfortunately... means the enemy achieves a 22:1 kill rate here...

I´m not going as far as saying that this is a usual result, but one thing is for sure, with all the weaknesses of WITP air combat, you still get LESS totally unreasonable results like these totally silly loops in AE very often... in WITP you could get reasonable, realistic kill rates and this depended on numbers, ac type and pilot exp... when looking at your force and the enemy´s before an engagement, you usually could expect an outcome good or bad for you... in AE, I have no clue what reasonable factors you should look at because there just isn´t anything reasonable as soon as you leave the early war stages of 2 Zero daitais engaging one P-40 squadron it seems...

as a side note, I´m sure there are people around thinking this was a perfectly realistic example of the airwar in the Pacific... to me, with the given factors, it was a totally silly result...

Ok, Castor...I promised myself I'd stay away, but to be honest, out of morbid curiosity I look in on my little friend from time to time. Normally I chuckle and walk away. This time I am going to try and help you with a teachable moment...first let me throw out some numbers and let you chew on them. Feel free to PM me with your analysis of their meaning in this instance.

In no particular order...

29, 13, 6000, 16, 27, 3:1, 3000, 47

PaxMondo · Post by **PaxMondo** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:08 am

ORIGINAL: TheElf

In no particular order...

29, 13, 6000, 16, 27, 3:1, 3000, 47

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castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:25 am

ORIGINAL: crsutton

I will say that I find the tojo to be mostly outclassed by any second generation fighter. Surprisingly the hellcat seems to eat them up even though it is not faster. Thunderbolts, corsairs and lightnings have little problem in my game. Basically speed kills. It had its day but without armor and only middling speed the tojo is becoming obsolete. My oppoent has decided to build jacks and tonys as well and they seem to be much better fighters vs the heavy bombers. The tony really does shoot down a few liberators. But they are not very good vs my fighters because they are much slower, and the tony has a pretty poor climb rate as well which I believe is a big factor in beating the dive. I really don't worry about the Frank or George so much. I know that I will face them in the next few months but with a service rating of three, I expect to kill a lot of them on the ground.

Still the never ending dive rules and now that I have better planes it only works all that better. We have a ceiling cap of 29,000 feet so a lot of our combat takes place at 29k. The results are a little more balanced but the better Allied fighters still own the tojo.

Rainer has opted for the George instead of the Jack it seems (there were some Jacks around earlier). The Tojo still does well in my game and as you can see, while the Frank has overall excellent stats (better than the Hellcat) it was shot out of the sky at a rate of 30:0 today. If this isn´t ass odd as today´s overall kill rate then I don´t know what. Achieving a three times better kill rate than in real life when the Allied faced crappy aircraft with crappy pilots when we face better aircraft and as good pilots as the Allied have?

You are going to be surprised that you won´t take out lots of Franks (or any other fighter) on the ground because radar works now. As you can see in this AAR already (game still three weeks ahead), the enemy is usually having all his fighters scramble with a low Cap setting (just as we do), which means his fighters don´t suffer from a high service rating and you hardly ever kill them on the ground, except you have damaged them the days before but I can asure you that you are also going to suffer for this (see cap&gown´s AAR for example when the Allied drained his airforce over Truk). In my case, I wouldn´t accept such losses and already would stop after one day as I can not afford it, so there wouldn´t be much destroyed on the ground on the fifth or sixth day of fighting because by then I would have already stopped.

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:53 am

ORIGINAL: TheElf

ORIGINAL: castor troy

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and here´s what I call one of the silly results the air routine is bringing up near constantly...

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 64,97

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 9
N1K1-J George x 14

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 74
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 3 destroyed
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Hakaze, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Hokaze
DD Tawakaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
9 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
6 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
24 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 44000 feet *
6 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 44000 feet *
8 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 44000 feet *

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
253 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead

ok, you probably are going to ask why... why? because the 74 P-38J that are flown by the best pilots available to the USAAF are shot to pieces by 23 enemy fighters as they lose no less than 22 P-38... the P-38 are set to escort, well, they show up with the bombers but the game treats them as sweep (would that be an advantage then??? [8|]), probably the usual coordination silliness (yes, I don´t care about altitude as it just doesn´t matter as coordination is something I call "screwed by design")... what happens then? Do I even have to say the enemy had the never ending dive? The strike was picked up by radar, resulting in 16 min pre warning for the Japanese fighters which are set to 6000ft... the George unit shows up with "Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes"... and then I can watch the replay with the Japanese fighters diving and diving and diving and diving and diving until the point I thought, heck, this GAME is so silly, why not using a board game where all aircraft are the same and the higher dice wins... Lightning after Lightning was sent home burning and nearly two dozen crashed... the Lightnings were able to take down one Zero and damage two Georges... yeah, air to air routines are a masterpiece of computer programming for sure... the flying circus of Lightnings outnumbered the enemy 3.5:1, they had the better aircraft, they had a tactical advantage (height anyone?) and the had overall better pilots as my flying circus didn´t meet two enemy expert units... but hey, why should that mean the game could come up with at least a somewhat reasonable result? It can´t because it´s borked... unfortunately... means the enemy achieves a 22:1 kill rate here...

I´m not going as far as saying that this is a usual result, but one thing is for sure, with all the weaknesses of WITP air combat, you still get LESS totally unreasonable results like these totally silly loops in AE very often... in WITP you could get reasonable, realistic kill rates and this depended on numbers, ac type and pilot exp... when looking at your force and the enemy´s before an engagement, you usually could expect an outcome good or bad for you... in AE, I have no clue what reasonable factors you should look at because there just isn´t anything reasonable as soon as you leave the early war stages of 2 Zero daitais engaging one P-40 squadron it seems...

as a side note, I´m sure there are people around thinking this was a perfectly realistic example of the airwar in the Pacific... to me, with the given factors, it was a totally silly result...

Ok, Castor...I promised myself I'd stay away, but to be honest, out of morbid curiosity I look in on my little friend from time to time. Normally I chuckle and walk away. This time I am going to try and help you with a teachable moment...first let me throw out some numbers and let you chew on them. Feel free to PM me with your analysis of their meaning in this instance.

In no particular order...

29, 13, 6000, 16, 27, 3:1, 3000, 47

Ian, I have promised not to start any of "these threads" on the main forum anymore because it is neither good for sales nor is it going to help the mood on the forum so I usually keep my disliked comments within this AAR now where ppl who don´t want to read don´t have to enter anyway and a potential customer probably won´t end up when skimming the forum for a couple of minutes. I´m amazed tbh that you do enter from time to time as you sure are aware my comments here wouldn´t look any different (or even worse) than my comments earlier on the main forum. Nevertheless you are of course very welcome. If you read a couple of turns further, you will get to March 11, which shows 70 Japanese fighters with excellent pilots mostly on a sweep shot down for the loss of 3 Allied fighters. These are the things that I feel that aren´t right as it just stretches the "what could be possible" too far IMO. You won´t believe it, many thoughts and things that went into the new system were great IMO with the biggest step forward being the fact that Cap isn´t 100% bullet prove anymore. The biggest drawback IMO are these loops that happen every couple of turns when you end up with kill rates around 20:1, means 2, 3, or 4+ times higher than in real life but with having well trained pilots and better aircraft for the Japanese (same aircraft and slightly better pilots for the Allied). I bet you won´t see me complain about a 3:1, 1:1, 5:1, 2:3, etc when it comes down to kill raes. Well, complaining about the performance of my strike not being great perhaps but not saying something is broken.

But hey, let´s see what we can get out of this. I would like to post my answer here instead of sending you a pm, so other ppl could benefit from the posts here or at least get amused by us two getting into a quarrel again. [;)]

let´s take your numbers (I´m at work and I don´t have the game available, so I can only go by memory if we are talking about aircraft stats for example).

29, (guess) man rating of the Tojo or George below 10k?

13, (guess) man rating of the Lightning below 10k?

6000, altitude the Cap is set

16, time the incoming strike still needs to reach the target

27, no idea

3:1, no idea, 3:1 numerical superiority for the Lightnings? Probably not, as this was one of my arguments why I found it odd that you lose 22:1 with a 3:1 numerical superiority

3000, altitude the raid was detected

47, distance the raid was detected

without the ranting comments above, let me summarize what I see here (feel free to tell me if there is something wrong with what I notice). The bombers are coming in with 74 Lightnings, they are listed as sweeping so this should even be an advantage for them in the game, they meet a maximum of 23 enemy fighters on Cap (not all according to the combat report as it takes some of them longer to reach the incoming strike than it takes the incoming strike to reach the target), the Lightnings are having an altitude advantage over the Cap (I´ve always thought such an alt difference wouldn´t be much of an advantage, you as a pilot told the forum it is because it´s not a problem to spot the enemy from the higher position - note that this is a strato sweep, but most of sweeps have been flown at various other altitudes since working radar has made this tactic pretty much obsolete - referring to March 10 turn) and the Lightnings are flown by my best pilots, air skill 70+, def between 60 and 70+ with many aces. None of the Cap fighters made it to the bombers but halve of the Lightning formation was shot up, resulting in 22 of them being shot down in the end. The 74 Lightnings manage to down one enemy fighter. The altitude this fight is happening may be better for the Japanese fighters than if it would happen at 30000ft (at least for the Zekes) but the altitude isn´t far from where it happened in real life in the end and with 3.5 times more Lightnings coming down to pass on the enemy fighters I wouldn´t expect it to turn out into a turning combat anyway which again leads me to the comment that I don´t think a 22:1 in losses that favours the Japanese is plausible. Neither this, nor the March 10 turn´s kill rates seem to be plausible to me as they are just too "good". Even if you aren´t really interested on the Pacific War, many people have heard the term Great Mariana´s turkey shoot and even there, the total ac loss ratio didn´t exceed 5:1 IIRC, with the A2A being probably at least twice as high but this with all the bombers shot down, in this turn and in the March 10 turn, we are talking about fighter vs. fighter kill rates. Doesn´t mean there weren´t insane kill rates (at least reported by the pilots) against enemy fighters, I think it were Bellau Wood´s Hellcats that claimed more than 30 enemy fighters shot down over Guam. Adding in all the bombers shot down and aircraft destroyed by flak I don´t know how this then fits in in the tally though and the question remains just how often and at what conditions it happened. If I post the total aircraft lost A2A in the game then one can see that the totals seem to look just fine with a 2:1 at best at this date, but that´s more due to having loops on both sides happening, so I´m not saying it´s side related. But to me, they happen just too often and aren´t just claims by pilots but the actual losses.

Perhaps (no, for sure) I should keep my usual comments more civilized, without anything that is seen as a personal attack or that is the constant rant about my petpeeves as it sure would be a more constructive way. It would for sure help coming along better but I´m not sure it would change the situation and usually it does just boom at my place when my PBEM runs turns like this one above or (even worse) the March 10 turn. Lots of unexpected things happened in real life, the question just is how often and how "unexpected".

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:30 am

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 11, 44
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ASW attack near Vigan at 78,73

Japanese Ships
xAK Yamadori Maru
E Aotaka

Allied Ships
SS Whale

SS Whale is sighted by escort
Whale diving deep ....
E Aotaka fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Aotaka fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Aotaka fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Aotaka fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Aotaka fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Taytay at 71,77

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 41, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
SC Ch 24
E Asagao

Allied Ships
SS Grayling

SS Grayling launches 4 torpedoes at SC Ch 41
E Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

subchasers or PB in an ASW TF usually aren´t a real threat for the subs... nothing is as feared as the new E classes...

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Sub attack near Nago at 94,63

Japanese Ships
TK Kikusui Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SC Ch 51
SC Ch 15
SC Ch 13
TK Toshikawa Maru
TK Kyokuyo Maru
TK Rokkosan Maru
TK Noshiro Maru
TK Ogura Maru #2
E W-1
E Susuki
PB Hirota Maru

Allied Ships
SS Runner

SS Runner launches 6 torpedoes at TK Kikusui Maru
E W-1 fails to find sub and abandons search
E Susuki fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Hirota Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Hirota Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Hirota Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Hirota Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Hirota Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

I would either escort the tanker convoys with E ASW TFs or put more of them into the TFs while using all other escorts for something else... probably not enough E around... this is going to change in the next 6 months but hopefully by then we are in the process of cutting off the SRA completely...

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Submarine attack near Groot Natoena at 60,79

Japanese Ships
PC Nire
DD Tadeyame, Shell hits 1
DD Myojinami
PC Take, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
SS Archerfish, hits 11, and is sunk

SS Archerfish is located by PC Nire
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Myojinami attacking submerged sub ....
DD Myojinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinami attacking submerged sub ....
SS Archerfish forced to surface!
PC Take firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Tadeyame firing on surfaced sub ....
PC Take firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Tadeyame firing on surfaced sub ....
PC Take firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Tadeyame firing on surfaced sub ....
PC Take firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Tadeyame firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Myojinami firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

next sub bites the dust, this time the enemy DD score...

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Morning Air attack on Cotabato , at 78,90

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet

CAP engaged:
260th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes

taking on leaking Cap again...

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 41

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 106

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 22

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 59

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 43

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 127

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 30

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 60

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

as the enemy has abandoned Samarinda and Balikpapan after suffering horrendous losses against the Corsairs two turns ago we´ve now sent the heavies to close the place... ordered some fighters on escort but they didn´t show up at all... halve of the bombers would have been sufficient to close down the airfield...

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 16

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 41

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 11

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 27

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Runway hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Cotabato , at 78,90

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 4

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet

CAP engaged:
260th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes

the rest of the Tojos is knocked out...

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Afternoon Air attack on Burma Area Army, at 65,61

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 22

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 37000 feet

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Afternoon Air attack on Burma Area Army, at 65,61

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 22

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 37000 feet

ordered some sweeps to draw leaking Cap but no enemy fighters showed up...

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:42 am

CV Miami, the next Essex class carrier arrived in theatre today...

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 12, 44
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Sub attack near Groot Natoena at 60,80

Japanese Ships
DD Myojinami
PC Nire
DD Tadeyame

Allied Ships
SS Perch, hits 1

SS Perch launches 4 torpedoes at DD Myojinami
Perch diving deep ....
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tadeyame attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tadeyame attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tadeyame is out of ASW ammo
DD Tadeyame is out of ASW ammo
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

same TF that sunk Archerfish yesterday heavily damages Perch with a single hit today, retiring with 25 sys 28 flt...

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Sub attack near Sangi at 76,97

Japanese Ships
SS I-174

Allied Ships
PT-242
LCT-364
LCT-170

SS I-174 cannot acquire firing solution on enemy PT
Sub escapes detection

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Sub attack near Iba at 78,74

Japanese Ships
DD Matsukaze
E Ukishima
AO Ashizuri
AO Shioya
TK Azuchisan Maru
TK Namba Maru
TK Kinmon Maru
TK Fukko Maru
E Takashima
E Hoko

Allied Ships
SS Grenadier, hits 6

SS Grenadier launches 4 torpedoes at DD Matsukaze
DD Matsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Takashima fails to find sub and abandons search
E Hoko attacking submerged sub ....
DD Matsukaze attacking submerged sub ....
E Hoko attacking submerged sub ....
DD Matsukaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Matsukaze cannot reach attack position over SS Grenadier
DD Matsukaze loses contact with SS Grenadier
SS Grenadier eludes ASW attack from DD Matsukaze
SS Grenadier eludes ASW attack from DD Matsukaze
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Matsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Matsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Matsukaze fails to find sub and abandons search
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Grenadier is knocked out too, 24 sys 19 flt...

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Morning Air attack on Cagayan , at 79,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 4
N1K1-J George x 7
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 25
Ki-84a Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 49 [X(]
F4U-1A Corsair x 54 [X(]

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 5 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet
16 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet
16 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet

CAP engaged:
254 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
341 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 41010
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
73rd Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead
260th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 19 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 23000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes

interesting turn as it shows the bug with escorts showing up over the target several times in one turn, in this case the Lightnings (they are also not shown as sweeping)... have set the Corsairs to sweep and the Lightnings to escort the bombers and set Cagayan as the target... what happens? The Lightnings are showing up in every engagement and are also actually FIGHTING... 90% of this engagement was fought by the Lightnings that shouldn´t show up at all... otherwise it was surprising that three Corsair squadrons flew together...

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Morning Air attack on Cagayan , at 79,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 6

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 45
F4U-1A Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet
10 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
11 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
12 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

CAP engaged:
341 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 41010 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
260th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes

same Lightnings now show up as sweeping...

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Morning Air attack on Cagayan , at 79,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 4

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 86
P-38J Lightning x 44

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 4 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
H6K5 Mavis: 4 destroyed on ground

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 22
Airbase supply hits 21
Runway hits 172

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
15 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
11 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

CAP engaged:
260th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes

now the same Lightnings are on escort...

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Morning Air attack on Cagayan , at 79,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 41
P-38J Lightning x 43

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
H6K5 Mavis: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 81

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
15 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
14 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

CAP engaged:
260th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes

another time being on escort, another time fighting so we´re not talking about a display glitch as someone has mentioned on the main forum...

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 43

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
LB-206, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-5003, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
ACM Kaisho Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
LB-5009, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-203, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-201, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-5005, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-208, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-5015, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-5002, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-5014, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-1035, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-5007, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-207, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-5006, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-204, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-5012, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-5011, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-5008, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-202, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-5001, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-5013, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-205, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-5010, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-5004, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Port hits 4
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

after taking out the airfield yesterday with the bombers from Manado we´ve ordered the heavies on Timor to attack the port today to sink the barges there and to destroy the port facilities... I don´t think the enemy would move tanker convoys there anymore anyway but just to make sure... this strike wasn´t devastating to the port though...

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 28

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
ACM Kaisho Maru, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk

Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 46
P-38J Lightning x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 44

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

while the Mitchells at Manado were set to attack Tarakan´s airfield, the heavies there were set to attack Cagayan...

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Morning Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Cagayan , at 79,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 22
P-38J Lightning x 43

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
15 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
15 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

and another time the same Lightnings, this time again showing up as SWEEPING... if someone thinks I´m wrong and these would always be different squadrons then I can tell him that I don´t have so many P-38J on the whole map as seen attacking Cagayan today...

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Morning Air attack on Cagayan , at 79,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 14
P-38J Lightning x 43

Japanese aircraft losses
H6K5 Mavis: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 30

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
15 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
15 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

and another time the same Lightnings...

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Morning Air attack on Cagayan , at 79,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 11
P-38J Lightning x 43

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 34

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
15 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
15 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

and again...

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 7

No Allied losses

Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Cagayan , at 79,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 43
PB4Y-1P Liberator x 1

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
15 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
15 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

and to top it off, they even show up sweeping with a recon Liberator... how many times have they shown up today? 8 times or even more often? Would be cool to have 300-400 Lightnings at Manado... no, these were always the same and everytime the enemy was able to oppose them, they were actually fighting... no display glitch, that´s a bug...

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:43 am

If someone is interested in the victory points development:

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:54 am

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 13, 44
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Sub attack near Torishima at 109,68

Japanese Ships
PB Ikunta Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Nagisan Maru
xAK Hohuku Maru
xAK Eli Maru
xAK Ryuko Maru
xAK Omi Maru
xAK Heito Maru
PB Magan Maru

Allied Ships
SS Hake

SS Hake launches 6 torpedoes at PB Ikunta Maru
Hake diving deep ....
PB Magan Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Magan Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Magan Maru cannot reach attack position over SS Hake
SS Hake eludes ASW attack from PB Magan Maru
PB Magan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Magan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Magan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

this escort was hit at least...

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ASW attack near Tanegashima at 102,66

Japanese Ships
E Hasu
DD Numakaze
DD Shiokaze

Allied Ships
SS Tunny

SS Tunny is sighted by escort
Tunny diving deep ....
DD Numakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Shiokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shiokaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Shiokaze cannot reach attack position over SS Tunny
SS Tunny eludes DD Shiokaze by diving deep
DD Shiokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shiokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shiokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shiokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Maryborough at 105,158

Japanese Ships
SS I-28

Allied Ships
xAK Walter Reed, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Sampan
xAK William Windom
xAK William Kent
xAK Stephen W. Kearny
xAK Stanley Matthews
YMS-388

SS I-28 launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Walter Reed
I-28 diving deep ....
YMS-388 fails to find sub, continues to search...
YMS-388 fails to find sub, continues to search...
YMS-388 fails to find sub, continues to search...
YMS-388 fails to find sub, continues to search...
YMS-388 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

we lose a freighter in return...

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Morning Air attack on Cotabato , at 78,90

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 18

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet

tried to engage some more enemy fighters here but none showed up anymore... as Mindanao is very high up on the target list we have to neutralize all airfields and have to scare away the enemy airforce... as Rainer sure is aware of Mindanao being a priority target he won´t let me take the place without a fight this time... 80 enemy units on the island, several big airfields and the Imperial fleet within two day striking range I guess... I also expect him to use KB as soon as we attempt to land on the island, which means we can expect the next carrier clash, hopefully we will then see our carriers actually strike at the enemy and not sitting idle because they ended up 8 hexes away from the enemy and despite being ordered to react they did just nothing...

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Morning Air attack on Cotabato , at 78,90

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 18

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Cotabato , at 78,90

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 18

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet

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Morning Air attack on 1st Tank Division, at 61,59 (Udon Thani)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 15
Liberator B.III x 27
Liberator B.VI x 3
Wellington B.X x 15
B-24D1 Liberator x 63
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 32 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 21 (1 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 63 (6 destroyed, 57 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Liberator B.III bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x Wellington B.X bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x Liberator B.III bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 21th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 1st Tank Division ...
Also attacking 21th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 1st Tank Division ...
Also attacking 21th JNAF AF Unit ...

a unit was spotted moving out of the clear hex of Udon Thani so we´ve ordered our bombers at Hanoi to fly a strike to find out it´s 1st tank div that is moving out... only six P-47 escorted the first wave, glad there´s no enemy fighter in the air...

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Morning Air attack on 1st Tank Division, at 61,59 (Udon Thani)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIc x 14
Liberator B.VI x 12

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

amazingly enough, the Beaufighters that then showed up were coming from RANGOON, which is the opposite direction the bombers were coming from... this is when I think the "coordination routine" is strange... no?[&:]

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Morning Air attack on 1st Tank Division, at 61,59 (Udon Thani)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 12

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 1st Tank Division, at 61,59 (Udon Thani)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 1st Tank Division, at 61,59 (Udon Thani)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 1st Tank Division, at 61,59 (Udon Thani)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

all in all, only 5% of the fighters at Hanoi that were set to escort actually showed up, with one strike being "escorted" from Bangkok... doesn´t "escort" mean to fly WITH the bombers for the most part of the trip? Wonder how that works when they were coming from Rangoon... what the other fighters at Hanoi were doing is beyond me...

all in all only minor losses today... it would take a week more and daily attacks to have the tank div really feel our attacks but it probably gets railed out of range in no time...

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ASW attack near Iba at 77,75

Japanese Ships
DD Minazuki
DD Uzuki

Allied Ships
SS Whale, hits 2

SS Whale is sighted by escort
DD Minazuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Uzuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Minazuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Uzuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Minazuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Uzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Uzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Uzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:28 am

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 14, 44
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ASW attack near Culion at 75,80

Japanese Ships
DD Suruyame
AO Shiretoko
TK Ceram Maru

Allied Ships
SS Devilfish

SS Devilfish launches 6 torpedoes at DD Suruyame
Devilfish diving deep ....
DD Suruyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Suruyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Suruyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Suruyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Suruyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

shoot the TK...

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ASW attack near Iba at 77,75

Japanese Ships
DD Matsukaze
E Ukishima
AO Ashizuri
AO Shioya
TK Azuchisan Maru
TK Namba Maru
TK Kinmon Maru
TK Fukko Maru
E Takashima
E Hoko

Allied Ships
SS Whale

SS Whale launches 6 torpedoes at DD Matsukaze
DD Matsukaze fails to find sub and abandons search
E Takashima fails to find sub and abandons search
E Hoko attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

missing the DD...

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Sub attack near Iba at 77,75

Japanese Ships
E Ukishima
TK Azuchisan Maru
TK Namba Maru
TK Kinmon Maru
TK Fukko Maru
DD Matsukaze
E Takashima
E Hoko

Allied Ships
SS Whale, hits 1

SS Whale launches 4 torpedoes at E Ukishima
Whale diving deep ....
DD Matsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Takashima attacking submerged sub ....
E Hoko fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Matsukaze fails to find sub and abandons search
E Takashima fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Takashima fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Takashima fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Takashima fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Takashima attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

and missing the E...

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Sub attack near Groot Natoena at 60,79

Japanese Ships
PB Saiko Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
E Shimakaze
PB Kenkon Maru
xAKL Uga Maru
xAKL Kidokawa Maru
xAKL Hanakawa Maru
xAKL Hakuyo Maru
xAKL Kurama Maru
E Saga
E Hishu
E Nadakaze

Allied Ships
SS Gudgeon

SS Gudgeon launches 4 torpedoes at PB Saiko Maru
Gudgeon diving deep ....
E Saga fails to find sub and abandons search
E Hishu attacking submerged sub ....
E Nadakaze attacking submerged sub ....
E Hishu fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Nadakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
E Hishu fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hishu fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hishu fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hishu fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

sending another PB to hell...

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Sub attack near Cam Ranh Bay at 66,76

Japanese Ships
PC Nire
DD Tadeyame
DD Myojinami

Allied Ships
SS Spearfish, hits 4

SS Spearfish launches 4 torpedoes at PC Nire
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinami attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tadeyame attacking submerged sub ....
DD Myojinami fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Spearfish takes 15 sys 7 flt and retires...

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ASW attack near Pescadores at 85,62

Japanese Ships
BB Musashi
BB Yamato
DD Shikinami
DD Hibiki
DD Hayashimo
DD Kosukaze
DD Uruyuke
DD Tatsuyuke
DD Oboro

Allied Ships
SS Steelhead, hits 1

SS Steelhead is sighted by escort
Steelhead diving deep ....
DD Kosukaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Uruyuke attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tatsuyuke attacking submerged sub ....
DD Oboro attacking submerged sub ....
DD Uruyuke fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tatsuyuke attacking submerged sub ....
DD Oboro fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Uruyuke fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Tatsuyuke fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

the big boys are passing Formosa and are heading West...

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 40
N1K1-J George x 7
Ki-84a Frank x 3

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 2 destroyed

CAP engaged:
254 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
341 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 41010
Raid is overhead
73rd Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead
S-305 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 24 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes

bad news for the Corsairs as they come in one by one as most times, this time really suffering from the never ending dive for the enemy... glad there were mostly Zekes as these don´t carry enough punch to knock down the Corsairs immediately and many of them make it home damaged to be write offs in the end... this squadron was really hit hard though...

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 30
N1K1-J George x 1
Ki-84a Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet

CAP engaged:
S-305 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes
254 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
341 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 41010 , scrambling fighters to 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
73rd Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes

here comes the second squadron, again facing the never ending dive of the enemy fighters with the whole squadron being shot up... this turns out to be a bloody affair today...

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 15

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet

CAP engaged:
254 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 29000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
S-305 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 28000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 71 minutes

here comes the third squadron, same with the never ending dive but this squadron at least managed to get away with acceptable losses... in the end the enemy managed to suffer far fewer losses than expected, we couldn´t bring our numerical superiority to the fight and lose 16 Corsairs together with 50% of the pilots for not much in return... as long as we can´t bring a couple of squadrons to fly together we will have to focus more and more to attack leaking Cap, otherwise the enemy will keep outnumbering us over the target... trading 16 Corsairs for a dozen enemies today...

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Morning Air attack on Talaud-eilanden , at 79,97

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 25000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Talaud-eilanden , at 79,97

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 18

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

then a coule of sweeps that are failed escorts...

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Morning Air attack on Talaud-eilanden , at 79,97

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 6
F4U-1A Corsair x 52
PV-1 Ventura x 47

Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Talaud-eilanden , at 79,97

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 20
PV-1 Ventura x 23

Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Talaud-eilanden , at 79,97

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 15
PV-1 Ventura x 11

Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

at times I just wonder what makes the game sending escorts and how many... in this case we see a hundred fighters escorting (or sweeping when they fail to escort) some bombers to an airfield without any reported enemy resistance over a damaged airfield...

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 103
P-38J Lightning x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
F1M2 Pete: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 26
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 142

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
254 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
S-305 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers

the Lightnings and other Corsairs on escort should have flown with the heavies to Mindanao as that´s the place where we could expect heavy resistance... well, I could set them a target, but then we have the bug again that the fighters show up with every wave as this seems to only happen when you set a target...

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Morning Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 62
P-38J Lightning x 7

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 67

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 5

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
254 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500
Raid is overhead
S-305 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 11

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

heavily dispersed strikes... too dispersed...

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9

No Allied losses

Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 8

No Allied losses

Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 7

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

until this point the turn wasn´t really exciting nor satisfying for us...

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and then this happened:

Sub attack near Pescadores at 85,62

Japanese Ships
CV Katsuragi, Torpedo hits 3, heavy damage
BB Musashi
BB Yamato
DD Shikinami
DD Hibiki
DD Hayashimo
DD Kosukaze
DD Uruyuke
DD Tatsuyuke
DD Oboro

Allied Ships
SS Steelhead

SS Steelhead launches 6 torpedoes at CV Katsuragi
Steelhead diving deep ....
DD Kosukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Uruyuke fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tatsuyuke attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tatsuyuke is out of ASW ammo
DD Tatsuyuke is out of ASW ammo
DD Oboro fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kosukaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Uruyuke fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Tatsuyuke fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tatsuyuke fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tatsuyuke fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tatsuyuke fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tatsuyuke fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tatsuyuke fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tatsuyuke fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

we only spotted Yamato and Musashi earlier today but then Steelhead sights a fleet carrier and fires a salvo of six torps at the ship... absolutely amazing, three of them hit the carrier and the ship sinks immediately... [&o] after sinking Amagi near Mindanao in two succesful attacks we now sink the next Unryu... well done...

I have already put a lot of thoughts in what to do with my subs as they are now most often only targets for enemy ASW forces and their losses steadily increasing without much gain in return... an event like this is a morale boost of course and seems to make it worth it to keep my subs within enemy controlled space... guess Rainer thought we wouldn´t have subs in position North of Formosa but in fact, most of those that are around Formosa are patrolling North of it and this paid off today... being close to some bigger ports I´ve first thought the carrier could make it and we would only damage the ship but then torp two and torp three hit home which made me think the ship would be in severe trouble... hearing the sound for a ship sunk right after this attack I was sure the carrier was down...

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:37 am

what first looked like to be a not so great turn for us turned out to be an excellent day in war as we sink the next Japanese carrier... the enemy lost three fleet carriers (one bombed, the other two sunk by subs), the Allied lost one (bombed) with another halve dozen CVE (bombed) though...

PaxMondo · Post by **PaxMondo** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:57 am

Actually, I read your results and think you were lucky to have such low losses.  If you need to know why, read up on the Eastern Front air battles.  Once you understand why the P-39 and Me109 were dominate and the FW190 was a lousy fighter there and why the FW190 was a great fighter on the Western Front, you will understand your losses above.  I have to say I am amazed at the depth in the air combat model.  I did not expect it (obviously by your results above) so many things.
 
Kudo's to the dev team.
 
In spite of your rantings, good AAR.  Learning a lot reading it.  Thanks for sharing ....

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:22 pm

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Actually, I read your results and think you were lucky to have such low losses. If you need to know why, read up on the Eastern Front air battles. Once you understand why the P-39 and Me109 were dominate and the FW190 was a lousy fighter there and why the FW190 was a great fighter on the Western Front, you will understand your losses above. I have to say I am amazed at the depth in the air combat model. I did not expect it (obviously by your results above) so many things.

Kudo's to the dev team.

In spite of your rantings, good AAR. Learning a lot reading it. Thanks for sharing ....

I get your point, which seems to be about the low altitude, well, how do you explain the March 10 turn which was also fought at 6000ft? I´m glad there were two examples that had both sides suffering the same fate (insane losses without inflicting any damage) and if 6000 ft was such an advantage for the Japanese against the 3.5:1 outnumbering Lightnings, it would have also been for the Japanese on their sweep, where the losses were even worse, while they even had better fighters.

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:05 am

The Corsair losses today were severe but I´m sure CV Katsuragi is sunk. The carrier went down with a daitai of A6M5c which is quite a step forward for IJN carrier based fighters as it carries a punch compared to the A6M5, the c isn´t produced yet though. I can only hope that the 93 aircraft sunk with the carrier are partially FOW because this would be quite a lot of aircraft on such a carrier. Isn´t the normal loadout something around 67?

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:17 am

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 15, 44
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ASW attack near Daito Shoto at 101,67

Japanese Ships
PB Taian Maru

Allied Ships
SS Scorpion

SS Scorpion is sighted by escort
Scorpion diving deep ....
PB Taian Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Taian Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Taian Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Taian Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Taian Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Vigan at 78,73

Japanese Ships
BB Musashi, Torpedo hits 1
BB Yamato
DD Hibiki
DD Akatsuki
DD Hayashimo
DD Kosukaze
DD Uruyuke
DD Oboro
DD Amagiri

Allied Ships
SS Whale

SS Whale launches 6 torpedoes at BB Musashi
DD Kosukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Uruyuke fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Oboro fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Amagiri fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kosukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kosukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

the enemy fleet did a full speed run South, probably to get away from my subs around Formosa... well, Musashi ended up in front of the torp tubes of a sub patrolling off the Northern Philipines and is hit by a single MK-14... while not reported on fire or heavily damaged, I still think the hit wasn´t FOW and the BB should be damaged as Rainer´s comment about it wasn´t that bright... a carrier sunk yesterday and one of the beast sisters hit today is the morale boost the silent service needs... it makes me again think on the use though, perhaps I should concentrate all my subs closer to the land front as this would keep enemy ASW forces away from them and the subs would only operate against the enemy fleet if it intervenes... it would also mean though that we would stop any attacks on the enemy merchant fleet... with more and more modern E flooding the Seas we have to make a decision soon...

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Sub attack near Balabac at 70,80

Japanese Ships
DD Yayoi

Allied Ships
SS Gabilan

SS Gabilan launches 4 torpedoes at DD Yayoi
DD Yayoi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yayoi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yayoi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yayoi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yayoi fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 4
N1K1-J George x 6
Ki-84a Frank x 5

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 44000 feet

CAP engaged:
254 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
341 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 41010
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
73rd Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes

love the way the sweeps look like...

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 44000 feet

CAP engaged:
73rd Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes

[8|]

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 47,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 18

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 44000 feet

[8|]

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 100

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 6 destroyed on ground
F1M2 Pete: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 197

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

at least the three partially sweeps went in in front of the bombers, even though the B-24 could have dealt with the meager Cap on their own too... we also torch damaged Zekes on the ground...

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 81

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Butuan is 100% damaged for sure... I really want to convince the Japanese not to station anymore aircraft on Mindanao in future... this has worked pretty well at all the other places in range earlier but it seems Rainer is not wanting to give up Mindanao so that´s where he drew the line obviously...

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 27

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 17

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 44000 feet
5 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 44000 feet
5 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 44000 feet

[8|]

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Morning Air attack on Butuan , at 80,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 47,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 74

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet
24 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet
25 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet

it´s so lovely... there you go with three squadrons being combined on a sweep, but they come in after the bombers, even though the P-47 are coming from the closest base... it is what it is... [8|]

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Morning Air attack on Hue , at 66,64

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 2
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 6
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 9

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 75

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet
7 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet
13 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet

CAP engaged:
33rd Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 36740.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
286 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes

we also sweep Hue from Hanoi to engage leaking Cap from the base South of it and are amazed by three P-38 squadron actually joining up in this attack... the result wasn´t so amazing as the enemy was diving on the incoming squadrons for quite some time which is quite interesting with a pre warning time of 8 minutes and the majority of the Cap being set to 6000ft... despite the fact that the enemy can´t even reach the Lightnings but that´s the old question about it anyway... it was a pretty even fight in the end with a big number of Lightnings damaged as usual...

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