War in the East Q&A

cookie monster · Post by **cookie monster** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:22 pm

Newest version is v1.02. It has just been released.

You can dowload from here

http://www.matrixgames.com/products/latestdownloads.asp

There is an updater on the game menu shortcut, I dont know if it is any good though.

RCHarmon · Post by **RCHarmon** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:33 am

I've had the game about 3 weeks and have some questions that I haven't been able to find the answers for on the posts.

Playing my first serious campaign and am now in the blizzard and am having problems. I am playing the AI on normal. Up to the blizzard I inflicted 2.3 million casualties on the Red Army while suffering 450k. I thought I had done some damage to the Red Army, but I am mistaken. I am on blizzard move 7 and I am being attacked along my entire front. From south of Leningrad to the Black Sea. Initially I failed to take Leningrad, I pushed 50 miles past Smolensk and was closing in on Bryansk, I took Kiev and pushed several miles east. I moved some panzers south of Kiev and wrecked the Red Army's southern front. I captured just about every division down there. I was hoping for a quiet southern front.

All my reserves are committed and I can't contain the breakthroughs, and have been falling back and establishing new lines. In the north I have fallen back 30 or 40 miles, in the center about 30 miles, around Kiev about 50 miles, and in the south about 70 miles. I am going to have to keep falling back and I expect that, but I am taking 150k casualties every turn. I am going to fall back at least 4 or 5 hexes and try to set up a new line. At some point the Soviets will have to slow down because of supply? My main problem is in the deep south (I have no idea how the soviets were able to set a new line and begin attacking during the blizzard). I've tried to keep the Romanians off the front lines, but am now desperate for troops. When I did put three divisions stacked on the front line they lasted one turn and two of the three were routed. How do I hold the south together? When can I use the Romanians? I am going to set up a line from Odessa ( I have really fallen back ) to Kiev. The 6th and 17th will hold the 11th I am not sure about.

-How much damage needs to be done to the Red Army before winter? Obviously, I haven't caused enough.

-I am surprised the Soviets are able to go on the offensive along the entire front. Have I played it so badly?

-What needs to be done in the deep south to stop the Russians?

-I read on another post that the Axis will have a hard time to win in this game. I find this hard to understand. Historically, I am amazed that the Axis lost. If you take away the major mistakes like allowing 6th army to be cut off and destroyed, the German generals not allowed to command without interference, and the many other divisions that were allowed to be cut off and destroyed I would think the Axis would have a good chance.

Joel Billings · Post by **Joel Billings** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:54 am

Historically the Soviets took somewhere around 4 million losses (or more) in game terms. So 2.3 million is not enough. If the Soviets start the blizzard with 6 million plus men, it's going to be tough going for the Axis.

RCHarmon · Post by **RCHarmon** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:10 am

I just got through the blizzard and I am in pretty bad shape. I held Kiev and Odessa, but lost Gomel and Smolensk. I have a pretty good hole between Gomel and Kiev. I need to reestablish that line, but don't have many units capable of offensive operations. I'm sure the Red Army is not through attacking yet either. I am hoping that things will get better now that I am out of the blizzard.

The Soviets have now lost 4 million men. I have lost 1.89 million. My losses are in the extreme and I am wondering If I will have any offensive opportunities in '42? In the blizzard I lost 1.3 million. Is it more likely that it will be a slow grinding retreat to Berlin?

I'm going to play it out and try to figure this game out.

PMCN · Post by **PMCN** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:26 am

Does artillery Bde's and Divisions work differently on the defense then do normal units? Or do I just stick them behind the defensive line and set them to reserve?

Also in 43 you can make airborne divisions from the airborne bde, but the rules say only airborne bde can be used in drops. Does this mean you can't do air drops with an airborne division or can the division break down again into 3 bde?

Joel Billings · Post by **Joel Billings** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:59 pm

You can't drop the divisions, and they can't be broken down, so building up to divisions is basically turning them into good infantry.

Artillery units can attack from two hexes away, so you can add them into Deliberate Attacks. On defense, you can put them into reserve mode.

pompack · Post by **pompack** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:34 pm

Do factories located in cities that are completely isolated (e.g. Stalingrad) continue to produce supplies, manpower and goodies?

Helpless · Post by **Helpless** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:47 pm

Do factories located in cities that are completely isolated (e.g. Stalingrad) continue to produce supplies, manpower and goodies?

Yes, if they have enough supplies/resources/oil.

randallw · Post by **randallw** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:16 pm

Aww man, I already put the airborne brigades together.

PMCN · Post by **PMCN** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:47 am

Thanks Joel.  That put paid to any plans to make airborne divisions.  They get their guard caps and pins the hard way.

Randallw... that sucks.  Though you should still be able to use them as airmobile forces like the 22nd landing division at a guess.

RCHarmon · Post by **RCHarmon** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:32 pm

I am in 1942 playing the full campaign. Tigers are being produced and a Heavy panzer unit was brought online (created), my simple question is ......where are they at? I cannot find the unit formed and where should I look to find where the Tigers are?

I'm looking in the manual, but haven't found it yet.

Sorry for the simple question.

cookie monster · Post by **cookie monster** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:43 pm

ORIGINAL: RCH

I am in 1942 playing the full campaign. Tigers are being produced and a Heavy panzer unit was brought online (created), my simple question is ......where are they at? I cannot find the unit formed and where should I look to find where the Tigers are?

I'm looking in the manual, but haven't found it yet.

Sorry for the simple question.

They are a support unit you should find them at OKH

Senno · Post by **Senno** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:34 pm

If you can trigger the breakup of AGS into AG's A and B before the first winter (against AI) it really relieves the command crunch far earlier than the timed occurence.

RCHarmon · Post by **RCHarmon** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:31 am

Turn 63 Heavy Panzer unit "ARRIVES"...........I have checked OKH and have gone back and replayed some moves up to and past turn 63. I never get the unit or any Tigers. Is there a bug ????

RCHarmon · Post by **RCHarmon** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:40 am

I found it. 2nd corp 16th Army. How did it get there? How do I get it assigned to a Panzer Corp?

I was able to reassign it, but how did it end up in the 16th Army and not the OKH?

cookie monster · Post by **cookie monster** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:13 pm

ORIGINAL: RCH

I found it. 2nd corp 16th Army. How did it get there? How do I get it assigned to a Panzer Corp?

I was able to reassign it, but how did it end up in the 16th Army and not the OKH?

Probably because OKH support is not locked

madgamer2 · Post by **madgamer2** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:57 pm

ORIGINAL: Brady

Thanks again, but weekly turns huh, hard to wrap my head around that after doing single day turns for so long.

Can the turn cycle be adjusted, or is it set at weekly.

Buy ya books and buy ya books...and what do ya do? Tear of the covers and underline the good parts

Met as humor only...but I don't see how you could have missed it but then when you get to 70 like me you can miss a WHOLE lot more.
If this is the only mistake you make consider yourself lucky. I can see if you have been doing day turns you have to change gears so to speak. BTW if this had been a day a one to three day per turn game I would not have bought it as I could be dead before I finish just one game LOL

Madgamer2

randallw · Post by **randallw** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:41 pm

You better be sure you have the game among the assets of your will, or there will be a really intense legal fight over who gets it. [:D]

randallw · Post by **randallw** » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:39 pm

Did you playtesters reach a point where there was fighting in the mountainous areas of Romania and/or Hungary?  Did the Soviet player have to build lots of ski units to get through there at a decent pace?  Was a large disbandment of other units necessary to keep TOEs at a decent level?

karonagames · Post by **karonagames** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:48 am

Ron (Hard_Sarge) did most of the 44/45 testing, but he hasn't been posting for while. I'm not sure ski units assist with movement/combat in mountains, but I do know Ron found it hard going in that region.

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