Building the Maus. Editor AAR(Tutorial)

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Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. I meant the 'proper alpha layer'.

What do you mean by 'proper'?

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Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. I meant the 'proper alpha layer'.

What do you mean by 'proper'?

The best way to check is to load icon tga file into the Photoshop, or any other app which supports multiple layers. The alpha channel should be a copy of RGB channels with black background. It won't be displayed correctly if it is is set blank.



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This is short unofficial editor tutorial which shows how various data types build up in WITE editor.

The goal is to introduce new ground element (GE) type, create OB(TOE) which is using new GE , create new scenario with unit which would utilize new GE/OB(TOE).

Let’s take something big - Pz.Kpfw VIII aka Maus and make it available in the game [8D]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_VIII_Maus

1.Since we going to alter generic data (the data which is common across all scenarios and is loaded when new scenario is loading in the game or in editor), the good idea would be to make a backup...
If I build a new, scenario-specific OB using the TOE(OB) tab of the editor then I should be able to distribute the scenario without upsetting anyone else's generic data files, right? IOW, if I built this Maus battalion inside my Korsun Pocket scenario, then there's no danger of me screwing up somebody else's mods, correct?
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then there's no danger of me screwing up somebody else's mods, correct?

There is, if you overwrite original dat files.
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then there's no danger of me screwing up somebody else's mods, correct?

There is, if you overwrite original dat files.
So as long as I don't create the unit in Generic Data, I should be OK.
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then there's no danger of me screwing up somebody else's mods, correct?

There is, if you overwrite original dat files.
So as long as I don't create the unit in Generic Data, I should be OK.

If you only use empty slots and do not delete any other data you will be ok.
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Well, all depends what you trying to do. Always be careful with data files. Make backups, especially prior installing the newer patches.

Editor is much more user friendly today. When I started I used to loose 4-6 hours of work due to the various editor bugs.
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There is, if you overwrite original dat files.
So as long as I don't create the unit in Generic Data, I should be OK.

If you only use empty slots and do not delete any other data you will be ok.

I'm starting to get confused. Aren't the scenario data files different from the generic data files? I've been working under the impression that the generic data files are global--IOW, a change on a global data file changes the same data in every other scenario. The [scenarioName]_units data file has to be local as it contains locations, strengths, etc specific to the scenario. But are you saying that all other data files are always global?
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Well, all depends what you trying to do.

Pavel,

I'm trying to isolate my scenario work from other people's mods/scenarios and vice versa. I don't want to step on somebody else's efforts. My thought was that if I never mess with the generic data files and only work with scenario data files--that I would accomplish my goal of not conflicting with anybody else's work. I just want folks to be able to load and play my scenario and not have to worry about backing up their files for any reason other than it is always a good thing to do when using a third-party's work.
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Always be careful with data files. Make backups, especially prior installing the newer patches.

Absolutely.
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Aren't the scenario data files different from the generic data files?

That's right. The are isolated on the file level.
I'm trying to isolate my scenario work from other people's mods/scenarios and vice versa. I don't want to step on somebody else's efforts. My thought was that if I never mess with the generic data files and only work with scenario data files--that I would accomplish my goal of not conflicting with anybody else's work. I just want folks to be able to load and play my scenario and not have to worry about backing up their files for any reason other than it is always a good thing to do when using a third-party's work.

That's right, John. Such approach would allow you to keep the scenarios consistent with stock generic data, thus less efforts for ordinary players to use it. Just copy your scen file to the SCEN folder.

Changing and using custom generic files is not the rocket science, but you have to know what are you doing :)
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Aren't the scenario data files different from the generic data files?

That's right. They are isolated on the file level.

Excellent!
ORIGINAL: Helpless
I'm trying to isolate my scenario work from other people's mods/scenarios and vice versa. I don't want to step on somebody else's efforts. My thought was that if I never mess with the generic data files and only work with scenario data files--that I would accomplish my goal of not conflicting with anybody else's work. I just want folks to be able to load and play my scenario and not have to worry about backing up their files for any reason other than it is always a good thing to do when using a third-party's work.

That's right, John. Such approach would allow you to keep the scenarios consistent with stock generic data, thus less efforts for ordinary players to use it. Just copy your scen file to the SCEN folder.

Perfect.
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Changing and using custom generic files is not the rocket science, but you have to know what are you doing :)

Thanks Pavel. I think I've got it now. Let the designs begin!
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On the Ground Element Page of the Editor what does 'ACC' value represent?
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On the Ground Element Page of the Editor what does 'ACC' value represent?

Accuracy modifier when mounted, ex. due to the optics.
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Thanks Pavel - can now start to add some new vehicles.
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hello helpless wanted to ask if you can help me since i see your very knowledgeable i cant even find the editor i click on game editor and only shows load senario or generic data but nothing to click how do i get there then i want to try your maus tank it looks cool thanks for any help
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As it was advised in other thread you may try draft editor manual - tm.asp?m=2874235


Editor is built-in into the game itself.
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What is the criteria for Fields marked? [&:]

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For example, what would be if you wanted to include a sdkfz 4/1

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I think you may find many answers in Editor Draft manual - tm.asp?m=2874235
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I have not seen where he says he values ​​and how to know them.

Thank you.
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What is the criteria for Fields marked? [&:]
Let me do some calculating and then I'll give you some rules-of-thumb. More to follow...

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