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Warp 1.03 Beta 3

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Testing out the warping issue with the new beta. One seemed to work properly, then ran into this.

1st Hungarian Infanty and 3rd SS Panzer are trapped in hex 40,69. Do a deliberate attack from the 4 Soviet Corps arrowed.

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Attack sequence, notice 1st Hungarian is not listed as defending.

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Yet it surrendered, the 3rd SS Panzer does not surrender and ends up here.

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Yet both are listed as destroyed.

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Save, if it is of any help.

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Seems that SS unit is placed for rebuild, which is normal. Sounds more as report issue rather than warping units.
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I like it. All the equipment of the former 3rd SS Panzer Division was surrendered/destroyed and a NEW shell organization was placed in Berlin for rebuild. No problem with that.
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RE: Warp 1.03 Beta 3

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My guess is that the Hungarian unit was depleted and thus did not fight in the battle but was forced to surrender after the battle. There should have been a message though that the German unit had surrendered, so there is some kind of display issue (maybe caused by the other unit's message of surrender even though it wasn't officially in the battle).
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Joel,

According to 18.1.1.2 isn't the German unit supposed to come back on the map on the FOLLOWING turn after it is "destroyed" not the same turn? 15.9.3 seems to be suggesting the same thing, i.e. a surrendered unit is "destroyed."

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FOLLOWING turn

That will be the following turn for the Germans :)
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Helpless,

This is still the Soviet turn. Shouldn't it arrive on map NEXT turn during the German General Logistics Phase? That is how I read 4.1 Game Turn Overview and 4.2 Logistics Phase Details. Anyway, Joel is reporting a bug in another thread, so all of this will be sorted out shortly.

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I don't think this is a bug, probably just needs a clarification for the manual. The unit is destroyed and placed on the map right away. It won't get any troops until the following logistics phase.
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Shouldn't it arrive on map NEXT turn during the German General Logistics Phase

No.
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