Testing WITE

[bdtj1815]

bdtj1815 sounds British.
Maybe he is out of tea?

No English actually, and still celebrating our victory today over the French!!

[Senno]

ORIGINAL: bdtj1815

Many of you are misrepresenting my comments. I love this game but just think it wrong for a company to sell a game, for a pretty hefty price, and then expect us, "the players", to make it right on a forum. How many people who paid their money, don't visit the forum every day like I do to find the patches, are playing a flawed game? Forget the questions of game balance, but units arriving at the wrong time, UI problems etc. SORRY for £70 I do expect a game of this sort to be up to scratch on release. This is not a console shoot-me game.

I don't believe they expect us to? You have completely inverted the relationship and seem to be holding their openness and willingness to communicate with players against them...

Many developers are not like that at all. And don't release patches when things don't work. The game was completely playable out of the box, and has been improved with every patch.

And your migrating list of complaints is making the itch at the back of my head worse....

MMO= Massively Multiplayer Online; Warcraft, Ultima Online, City of Heroes, for example.

As to it being the weekend: You can see who is online as easily as I. I see one official type name now, after none for the last several hours. Server time is 4:03 AM or so. How many official complaints do you file at your bank at 4:03 AM on a Sunday? Most people like to keep regular office hours, if possible. Being available at all hours isn't a wonderful thing, if you're the one who has to do it.

So your charge coming as late as it does is kinda like releasing bad news at 5:00 on Friday, when the newsrooms are closed down til Monday. The 24 hours cable news cycle has changed this a bit, but it's still done now, seemingly as a tradition, lawl.

[Templer_12]

ORIGINAL: Mynok


Amen. Witp had issues out of the box. 2by3 corrected them over time. They are a responsive developer I have utmost confidence in. Their track record speaks for itself.

In the meantime, I'm having great fun playing it as it is, despite its flaws. How is this a problem? Don't see it.

Absolutely!
And what a brilliant, fantastic software that's today! [&o]

And whenever a new patch for WitE comes out, there is always a new challenger in the game.

[bdtj1815]

What is "starcraft II"?

[bcgames]

ORIGINAL: bdtj1815
"I bought this game on the day it was released and I think it has many things going for it. What I did not realise when I paid my £70 was that I was not buying a finished product. So far I have had to download six patches and still I read that the "game will only be balanced" "possibly in a year" when enough people play it who can point out its faults.

35 years ago my first wargame, bought as a present for my fifteenth birthday, was "Drang nach Osten" by GDW. In real terms it probably cost in 1974 more than WITE today but worked "straight out of the box" and is still playable today without amy major modifications.

When I bought WITE I wish someone had written on the Matrix website that "this game will be great when you all find what is wrong with it now".

bdtj1815,

It sounds like we have walked the same path. I bought DNO way back in the 70's and shelled out the additional $12.95 (or whatever it was) for the expansion game, "Unentschieden". My brother and I played this set of games over and over again; it was all great fun. Later, I bought Fire in the East...and we played some more. Now it is 2011 and I eagerly await the release of "Total War" for $195:

Total War by HMS/GRD

One of these days, I hope somebody will get that board game right! Until then? I'll keep investing in the effort...cuz the results keep getting better. Even boardgames have "patches" (aka "errata" in the old days).

Hang in there. It's the journey that counts and changes are always exciting--for the good or ill. [8D]

[Angelo]

ORIGINAL: bdtj1815

What is "starcraft II"?

Now I know your having one on us! [:D]

[bdtj1815]

Lots of Matrix "Legion of Merit"ers and "Veterans" reply so presumably friends of the company, but I am sorry but WITE was released as an unbalanced and unfinished product and unlike "war in space22" (or whatever) should try and recreate the history it advertises as purporting to represent . For gods sake most of you have posted to this effect in other threads. Can you not see my point. That many people who do not have your commitment to this product, and do not follow this forum religiously, did still expect, especially after how it was advertised, the ultimate "War in the East" game might be disappointed.

[Senno]

I'm not quite that old, but I did play GDW's The Third World War series, and set them all up on one giant dining room table to play all together. Man 1 turn took days......

And yes, the errata came in the box, and as games in the series were released, they fixed rules and counters from the older games with errata to errata, lawl....

The "good old days" are best viewed with rose tinted glasses.....[;)]

[cookie monster]

ORIGINAL: randallw

The only awful ( or should I say significant ) programming problem i've personally perceived is the problem of fighter units not going up to defend air bases.  Other people have commented that AA fire is not decently effective.

Its not a programming problem you just have to set your fighter interception doctrine to 100-150%.

Read this http://witewiki.com/index.php/Air_Doctrine

Massed AA is deadly.

[bcgames]

ORIGINAL: bdtj1815
Can you not see my point.

Yes, I do.

[Senno]

ORIGINAL: bdtj1815

Lots of Matrix "Legion of Merit"ers and "Veterans" reply so presumably friends of the company, but I am sorry but WITE was released as an unbalanced and unfinished product and unlike "war in space22" (or whatever) should try and recreate the history it advertises as purporting to represent . For gods sake most of you have posted to this effect in other threads. Can you not see my point. That many people who do not have your commitment to this product, and do not follow this forum religiously, did still expect, especially after how it was advertised, the ultimate "War in the East" game might be disappointed.

I'm sorry, but having an issue with a segment of the game does not equate to "unbalanced and unfinished" game. You are entitled to your viewpoint, of course. But we are also entitled to ours, and do disagree.

We will have to agree to disagree I suppose. And I bid you good morning (good night for me).

[2ndACR]

Those Legion of Merit and such goes by post count. Just like yours says recruit. Not friend of company per se. But ever since I found Matrix Games, I cannot remember any other game I bought from any other company. The support here is superb. They have always been responsive. Spent since I have spent a lot of money with them, I guess I fall into their friend category.

There will be no making you happy I guess, and I cannot convince you. I have faith, because I know it will only get better with time. Mainly because neither Matrix nor 2by3 has ever let me down. Ever. Not once. And probably never will.

Have a good day.

[bdtj1815]

quote:

ORIGINAL: bdtj1815

What is "starcraft II"?


Now I know your having one on us

Why?

[bcgames]

ORIGINAL: 2ndACR

I have faith, because I know it will only get better with time. Mainly because neither Matrix nor 2by3 has ever let me down. Ever. Not once. And probably never will.

There it is. It's the journey. Come along.

[Templer_12]

Friend of the company?

Now I'm offended!

I am a Matrix fanboy!

[Angelo]

ORIGINAL: bdtj1815

quote:

ORIGINAL: bdtj1815

What is "starcraft II"?


Now I know your having one on us

Why?

You never heard of Starcraft?

[cookie monster]

Ive never heard of starcraft. But I only play WITPAE and WITE.

[Templer_12]

ORIGINAL: 2ndACR

Those Legion of Merit and such goes by post count. Just like yours says recruit. Not friend of company per se. But ever since I found Matrix Games, I cannot remember any other game I bought from any other company. The support here is superb. They have always been responsive. Spent since I have spent a lot of money with them, I guess I fall into their friend category.

There will be no making you happy I guess, and I cannot convince you. I have faith, because I know it will only get better with time. Mainly because neither Matrix nor 2by3 has ever let me down. Ever. Not once. And probably never will.

Have a good day.

Word for word - I will sign this! [8D]

Wise words from a Texan.
Cowboys do it all!

[Angelo]

ORIGINAL: cookie monster

Ive never heard of starcraft. But I only play WITPAE and WITE.

Ok, start here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarCraft.

I'm a wargame fanboy have been since the early 70's and even I will admit that Starcraft is a great game.

[cookie monster]

I checked out the mans prior posts. He was bitchin about a game in 2006.

Only posts to moan. Unconstructively.........................................