Historical AE. Cantona2 (A) vs Fletcher (J)
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First the end of August score cards.
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Bloody hell - the Chinese have been eating their cheerios, haven't they?
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Turn Synopsis August 31st 1942
If anyone has a more frustrating dud story than this one please pray tell!!!!! SS Albacore is patrolling Milne Bay in the hope of ambushing returning ships from Port Moresby. She spots a fat, juicy target. Her aggressive skipper surfaces to engage with torps and deck gun. The enemy ships is hit with 9 consecutive dud torpedo hits. Reaching Bingo Winchester the cap'n submerges the sub and heads to Townsville to reload!!!! The next day the Gudgeon spots the same ship unloading at Milne Bay and guess what? Yep, thats right hits her with another dud. 10 consecutive dud hits on the same ship!!! [:@]
Anyhow lets move on...
Operation Fosters will be at D-Day minus 1 tomorrow when the main assault force reaches a point 90nm's south of Horn Island. If you look at the screenie I have all the assault forces in one large invasion transport. Is this a better way of getting a large number of troops ashore in one go or is it better to have one individual TF for each invading unit?
Operation Sword Thrust has also entered its initial phase as the 7th and 8th Marines, aboard their attack transports rendezvous to the south of New Caledonia and will then sail towards Lunga skirting the West coast of New Caledonia as the shipping lanes to the East are rife with enemy submarines. The 'L' force element from Suva has also finished boarding and is steaming to meet up. Close escort will come from the cruisers and destroyers at Noumea. CV Enterprise is leading her two consorts past Funafuti and will meet 'L' Force just prior to the final approach. 90th Bombardment Group (B-24D) is concentrating at Vanikoro ready to add its bombs to the support of the invasion. intell has also recently identified the 20th Engineer Regiment on Lunga.
In Indian Ocean it appears that the KB is withdrawing SE, hopefully close enough to Colombo to be able to launch an escorted attack. The damage control parties on the Valiant seems to be winning the battle against the flood and an extra knot of speed was squeezed out of its boilers.
The Japanese response at Tuyun has not been tardy. Two armoured regiments were seen moving from Kweiyang towards the Yangtze River to the north of Tuyun.
If anyone has a more frustrating dud story than this one please pray tell!!!!! SS Albacore is patrolling Milne Bay in the hope of ambushing returning ships from Port Moresby. She spots a fat, juicy target. Her aggressive skipper surfaces to engage with torps and deck gun. The enemy ships is hit with 9 consecutive dud torpedo hits. Reaching Bingo Winchester the cap'n submerges the sub and heads to Townsville to reload!!!! The next day the Gudgeon spots the same ship unloading at Milne Bay and guess what? Yep, thats right hits her with another dud. 10 consecutive dud hits on the same ship!!! [:@]
Anyhow lets move on...
Operation Fosters will be at D-Day minus 1 tomorrow when the main assault force reaches a point 90nm's south of Horn Island. If you look at the screenie I have all the assault forces in one large invasion transport. Is this a better way of getting a large number of troops ashore in one go or is it better to have one individual TF for each invading unit?
Operation Sword Thrust has also entered its initial phase as the 7th and 8th Marines, aboard their attack transports rendezvous to the south of New Caledonia and will then sail towards Lunga skirting the West coast of New Caledonia as the shipping lanes to the East are rife with enemy submarines. The 'L' force element from Suva has also finished boarding and is steaming to meet up. Close escort will come from the cruisers and destroyers at Noumea. CV Enterprise is leading her two consorts past Funafuti and will meet 'L' Force just prior to the final approach. 90th Bombardment Group (B-24D) is concentrating at Vanikoro ready to add its bombs to the support of the invasion. intell has also recently identified the 20th Engineer Regiment on Lunga.
In Indian Ocean it appears that the KB is withdrawing SE, hopefully close enough to Colombo to be able to launch an escorted attack. The damage control parties on the Valiant seems to be winning the battle against the flood and an extra knot of speed was squeezed out of its boilers.
The Japanese response at Tuyun has not been tardy. Two armoured regiments were seen moving from Kweiyang towards the Yangtze River to the north of Tuyun.
1966 was a great year for English Football...Eric was born
RE: Historical AE. Cantona2 (A) vs Fletcher (J)
[:D] China has been an extremely active theatre since day 1!ORIGINAL: kfsgo
Bloody hell - the Chinese have been eating their cheerios, haven't they?
1966 was a great year for English Football...Eric was born
RE: Historical AE. Cantona2 (A) vs Fletcher (J)
What escort do u have with the first wave: On the TF I see just two PGs....
No more ?
No more ?
RE: Historical AE. Cantona2 (A) vs Fletcher (J)
Two PG's and Two DD's that are further up the list. I am going for surprise, keeping numbers down. He has no CD units on Horn Island, well as far as recon can detect and no sub sightings other than one that has been detected at PM. So far TF is undetected and I hope it stays like that. Should he want to send a SCTF it will have to run the gauntlet of LBA. I also have 100 fighters to fly cover if needs be.
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RE: Historical AE. Cantona2 (A) vs Fletcher (J)
risky !!!!!! [;)]
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There is a BB led SCTF group following as distant cover as well, i can always detach the fast moving CL and DDs if needs be. If Ramon decides to fly in reinforcements I have 50 P-39's at Portland Roads ready to shred Tinas and Tabbys with their 20mm's
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ORIGINAL: traskott
risky !!!!!! [;)]
Fortune favours the bold... [;)]
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Fortuna Audaces Iuvat !!!
But if I were u I will have some fighters and flatops behind the scenes, just for....
But if I were u I will have some fighters and flatops behind the scenes, just for....
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ORIGINAL: traskott
Fortuna Audaces Iuvat !!!
But if I were u I will have some fighters and flatops behind the scenes, just for....
My flattops are committed to the Solomon landings and my fighters will come from Oz bases in the area. Anyhow Ramon has had his fair share of luck, time for it to shine on the Allies for a change.
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***DISASTER NEAR HORN ISLAND***BREAKING NEWS***JAP CARRIERS DETECT AND ATTACK INVASION TRANSPORTS***THREE SHIPS SUNK***OPERATION CANCELLED****
Such were the messages being received by all higher HQ's in the Eastern Australian seaboard. A very disappointing end to weeks of planning and preparation. How did the Japs know we were coming? Has OPSEC been compromised? Was it purely a lucky coincidence. Immediate thoughts turned to revenge and nearly 100 bombers now were set upon locating and sinking the enemy ships.
Such were the messages being received by all higher HQ's in the Eastern Australian seaboard. A very disappointing end to weeks of planning and preparation. How did the Japs know we were coming? Has OPSEC been compromised? Was it purely a lucky coincidence. Immediate thoughts turned to revenge and nearly 100 bombers now were set upon locating and sinking the enemy ships.
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Bad, bad, bad luck....
Have u identified the enemy carriers ? With India under attack, those should be CVEs or CVLs....
Have u identified the enemy carriers ? With India under attack, those should be CVEs or CVLs....
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i think they are the Junyo and Hiyo, both of them are based at Truk and have been seen around the Santa Cruz and NG areas. I may go for them with the Enterprise group and delay the Guadalcanal OP. If im lucky i may be able to attrite the CAP with LBA and then ambush them as they return to base via Milne Bay.
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Turn Synopsis 2nd September 1942
After the disappointment of Operation Fosters the time came to reassess the situation in the area. Sword Thrust was still a go and the location of the Japanese carriers had been pinpointed in the Torres Straits. It is clear now that they were covering some sort of reinforcement for Horn Island or maybe Merauke as the SS Seal patrolling the Torres Strait engaged the Awazisan Maru (she of 10 dud hit fame) as she was steaming westwards. None of the medium bombers from Coen flew but longer ranged, and more sturdy B-17's located and fruitlessly attacked an enemy light carrier, identified as the Zuiho. A CAP of 45 A6M2's was on patrol, we lost two Fortresses. Later intell also spotted two more larger carriers and one further small one and out best estimate suggest the Jinyo, Hiyo, Zuiho and Shoho. The rest of the enemy's carrier fleet being in the Indian Ocean. The Kaga, presumed sunk, is either at the bottom of the sea or in dry dock.
B-17's attack!
Eager for more victims enemy torpedo bombers escorted by 11 fighters once again targetted the Horn Island assault force, now steaming south a few miles off Portland Roads. This time there was no surprise and over 40 USAAF and RAAF fighters and fighter bombers were making sure an aerial umbrella covered those ships. A long dogfight ensued between P-39s and A6M2s, several planes being shot down on both sides. RAAF Beaufighters supported the Airacobras but despite their impressive armaments were hard pressed against the nimble Zeroes. Nevertheless P-40E's and Kittyhawk I's were vectored in 15 torpedo carrying B5N2's. Bereft of their fighter protection the Aussie and Yank fliers wrought a sweet revenge for the losses inflicted yesterday. All 15 bombers were splashed into the sea allowing our ships to safely navigate their way south.
After the disappointment of Operation Fosters the time came to reassess the situation in the area. Sword Thrust was still a go and the location of the Japanese carriers had been pinpointed in the Torres Straits. It is clear now that they were covering some sort of reinforcement for Horn Island or maybe Merauke as the SS Seal patrolling the Torres Strait engaged the Awazisan Maru (she of 10 dud hit fame) as she was steaming westwards. None of the medium bombers from Coen flew but longer ranged, and more sturdy B-17's located and fruitlessly attacked an enemy light carrier, identified as the Zuiho. A CAP of 45 A6M2's was on patrol, we lost two Fortresses. Later intell also spotted two more larger carriers and one further small one and out best estimate suggest the Jinyo, Hiyo, Zuiho and Shoho. The rest of the enemy's carrier fleet being in the Indian Ocean. The Kaga, presumed sunk, is either at the bottom of the sea or in dry dock.
B-17's attack!
Eager for more victims enemy torpedo bombers escorted by 11 fighters once again targetted the Horn Island assault force, now steaming south a few miles off Portland Roads. This time there was no surprise and over 40 USAAF and RAAF fighters and fighter bombers were making sure an aerial umbrella covered those ships. A long dogfight ensued between P-39s and A6M2s, several planes being shot down on both sides. RAAF Beaufighters supported the Airacobras but despite their impressive armaments were hard pressed against the nimble Zeroes. Nevertheless P-40E's and Kittyhawk I's were vectored in 15 torpedo carrying B5N2's. Bereft of their fighter protection the Aussie and Yank fliers wrought a sweet revenge for the losses inflicted yesterday. All 15 bombers were splashed into the sea allowing our ships to safely navigate their way south.
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Portland Roads at 91,133
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
B5N2 Kate x 15
Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Ic x 10
Kittyhawk IA x 7
P-39D Airacobra x 29
P-40E Warhawk x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 8 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Ic: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
No.30 Sqn RAAF with Beaufighter Ic (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 10 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
35th FG/40th FS with P-39D Airacobra (16 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(21 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
16 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
35th FG/41st FS with P-39D Airacobra (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
No.76 Sqn RAAF with Kittyhawk IA (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 7 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
49th FG/9th FS with P-40E Warhawk (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
11 planes vectored on to bombers
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Turn Synopsis 3rd September 1942
A much quieter turn that sees the disappearance once again of Japanese carriers. They have either moved north west towards Merauke or into the Bya of Carpentaria. Nonetheless, naval air strikes attack a Japanese transport unloading at Horn Island. No hits were observed in the three different attack waves. A destroyer escorting the retreating Horn Island assault transports has been detached and is going to attempt a high speed nocturnal attack.
The transports of Operation Sword Thrust have finished their initial movements and are now moving to meet with the carriers. Surface units follow two days behind after the battle wagons stopped to top up their bunkers. Softening up of the target continued today. 36 B-17s hit Munda airfield, that seemed strangely deserted, while B-24's out of Vanikoro targetted Shortlands. B-26's also attacked beach positions on Lunga itself.
A much quieter turn that sees the disappearance once again of Japanese carriers. They have either moved north west towards Merauke or into the Bya of Carpentaria. Nonetheless, naval air strikes attack a Japanese transport unloading at Horn Island. No hits were observed in the three different attack waves. A destroyer escorting the retreating Horn Island assault transports has been detached and is going to attempt a high speed nocturnal attack.
The transports of Operation Sword Thrust have finished their initial movements and are now moving to meet with the carriers. Surface units follow two days behind after the battle wagons stopped to top up their bunkers. Softening up of the target continued today. 36 B-17s hit Munda airfield, that seemed strangely deserted, while B-24's out of Vanikoro targetted Shortlands. B-26's also attacked beach positions on Lunga itself.
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Booth yours and Flechters are really great AARs to follow! Must be fun to have the reading when its over!
Say ooooh ahhh cantona say oh ah cantona!
Say ooooh ahhh cantona say oh ah cantona!
Amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics.
"All warfare is based on deception. There is no place where espionage is not used. Offer the enemy bait to lure him."
"All warfare is based on deception. There is no place where espionage is not used. Offer the enemy bait to lure him."
RE: Historical AE. Cantona2 (A) vs Fletcher (J)
We'll drink a drink a drink to Eric the King the King the King...ORIGINAL: koontz
Booth yours and Flechters are really great AARs to follow! Must be fun to have the reading when its over!
Say ooooh ahhh cantona say oh ah cantona!
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Turn Synopsis 9th September 1942
General Blamey was still adamant that the Horn Island operation go ahead. The troops lost to the enemy carriers were not direct assault troops, and the main attack force (3rd Motorised Brigade) was still intact. Furthermore intensive recon of the target suggested that no reinforcements had been unloaded by the Japanese. Similar intensive search ops by both submarines and aeroplanes found no trace of the the enemy carriers. As such, orders were given for Operation Fosters to be renewed.
To the south and east, Operation Sword Thrust was getting into its final gears. Carrier and supporting surface craft had topped up their bunkers to the east of the Santa Cruz islands, while L Force was slowly catching up. Minesweeping craft was concentrating at Lugnaville and follow up transports with supplies had also left Noumea. Supporting aerial attacks continued. The port at Munda was hit by B-17s from Lugnaville, observers reported the hitting and sinking of several small vessels. B-24's from Vanikoro attacked Japanese troop dispositions on Lunga itself while recon continued to photograph beach defences. Already it was evident that the enemy had withdrawn its planes from Munda. Winning the Battle of the Build Up, as the Press was calling it, on the Santa Cruz Islands was a crucial precursor for Sword Thrust. Indeed no clearer indication of this victory were the three large transports resupplying Ndeni. Something unthinkable four weeks ago!
Elsewhere in the theatre heavy bombers were now being based out of Arorae, another hard fought over base. B-17s tussled with a strong CAP over Tarawa while Liberators reported the sinking of a destroyer anchored at Jaluit further north up the Marshall Islands chain. CV Saratoga became operational after repair and refits were over. It is currently at Pearl enlarging its VF component. This now make 4 operational fleet carriers in the Pacific with two smaller CVE types to support. Lexington has had its major repairs completed at Los Angeles and will now move with heavy escort to Seattle's large shipyards to complete her repairs.
General Blamey was still adamant that the Horn Island operation go ahead. The troops lost to the enemy carriers were not direct assault troops, and the main attack force (3rd Motorised Brigade) was still intact. Furthermore intensive recon of the target suggested that no reinforcements had been unloaded by the Japanese. Similar intensive search ops by both submarines and aeroplanes found no trace of the the enemy carriers. As such, orders were given for Operation Fosters to be renewed.
To the south and east, Operation Sword Thrust was getting into its final gears. Carrier and supporting surface craft had topped up their bunkers to the east of the Santa Cruz islands, while L Force was slowly catching up. Minesweeping craft was concentrating at Lugnaville and follow up transports with supplies had also left Noumea. Supporting aerial attacks continued. The port at Munda was hit by B-17s from Lugnaville, observers reported the hitting and sinking of several small vessels. B-24's from Vanikoro attacked Japanese troop dispositions on Lunga itself while recon continued to photograph beach defences. Already it was evident that the enemy had withdrawn its planes from Munda. Winning the Battle of the Build Up, as the Press was calling it, on the Santa Cruz Islands was a crucial precursor for Sword Thrust. Indeed no clearer indication of this victory were the three large transports resupplying Ndeni. Something unthinkable four weeks ago!
Elsewhere in the theatre heavy bombers were now being based out of Arorae, another hard fought over base. B-17s tussled with a strong CAP over Tarawa while Liberators reported the sinking of a destroyer anchored at Jaluit further north up the Marshall Islands chain. CV Saratoga became operational after repair and refits were over. It is currently at Pearl enlarging its VF component. This now make 4 operational fleet carriers in the Pacific with two smaller CVE types to support. Lexington has had its major repairs completed at Los Angeles and will now move with heavy escort to Seattle's large shipyards to complete her repairs.
1966 was a great year for English Football...Eric was born