JAPAN Aid

[jomni]

Just to put a different perspective...

Japan has been very generous to any country that is hit by disaster.  They are usually big donors.
So why can't we pay it back by being generous to them?

And Japan, though seemingly rich... is a country in very deep debt (just like the United States).

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ORIGINAL: V22 Osprey

ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish

ORIGINAL: V22 Osprey
I will drop it Erik, I just have one thing to say and me and sven can go to PM.
I thought the whole point of donations was to help people with needs and that merit it?

V22,
I can only hope that when you're older you'll have the maturity to understand the "merit" part of your question doesn't come into play when dealing with disasters like discussed here. If you see somebody drowning you don't stop and ask how much money they have or if they merit assitance.

I was just waiting for you to comment.[:D] Yes, I know you think I'm less of me compared to other members on the forum just because I'm younger. You ALWAYS have to comment on anything I say. It's almost like you are watching everything I say and feel the need to comment on my maturity. Plus, saving someone from directly from drowning and providing the cash to the people that help the people in need are completely different things because the government can pay for the money to help those people.

He's right, "merit" has no place in this thread. Between you comparing rich victims versus poor victims, and the other guy comparing which victims do we have a larger stake in... you're both disgusting. -->REAL<-- people were hurt and killed in both places. This thread is about Japan. And FWIW, my daughter-in-law's brother and family were in the area of greatest damage. They survived the initial disasters, but we continue to worry about their baby without shelter. And you two go on about who "merits" help...

A single raised center digit from each of my hands to those who argue merits of needing help.


...And yet, I honestly hope neither of you learns what any of them are going through, by direct or related experience.

[ilovestrategy]

Japan is our friend. Friends help each other. I've lived in Japan. I know for a fact they love the U.S. I know, I lived in a Japanese household.

And the bottom line is people are people. And the people over there are suffering.

[V22 Osprey]

ORIGINAL: E

ORIGINAL: V22 Osprey

ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish

V22,
I can only hope that when you're older you'll have the maturity to understand the "merit" part of your question doesn't come into play when dealing with disasters like discussed here. If you see somebody drowning you don't stop and ask how much money they have or if they merit assitance.

I was just waiting for you to comment.[:D] Yes, I know you think I'm less of me compared to other members on the forum just because I'm younger. You ALWAYS have to comment on anything I say. It's almost like you are watching everything I say and feel the need to comment on my maturity. Plus, saving someone from directly from drowning and providing the cash to the people that help the people in need are completely different things because the government can pay for the money to help those people.

He's right, "merit" has no place in this thread. Between you comparing rich victims versus poor victims, and the other guy comparing which victims do we have a larger stake in... you're both disgusting. -->REAL<-- people were hurt and killed in both places. This thread is about Japan. And FWIW, my daughter-in-law's brother and family were in the area of greatest damage. They survived the initial disasters, but we continue to worry about their baby without shelter. And you two go on about who "merits" help...

A single raised center digit from each of my hands to those who argue merits of needing help.


...And yet, I honestly hope neither of you learns what any of them are going through, by direct or related experience.

You continue to miss the point, if the GOVERNMENT is WEALTHY enough to pay to help their own people, why does the country need our money. It's like Donating to Bill Gates if his house Burnt down. Would you really donate if that happened? You continue to make yourself sound like an Angel, acting like I don't care for the victims at all. You continue to bypass my main point to make it seem I'm cold hearted person doesn't care. I care, I just think the country in question is capable financially to help itself.

[vonRocko]

nevermind

[wworld7]

ORIGINAL: V22 Osprey

Yes, I know you think I'm less of me compared to other members on the forum just because I'm younger. You ALWAYS have to comment on anything I say. It's almost like you are watching everything I say and feel the need to comment on my maturity.

V22,

I do not think less of you period. Some of your commnets come accros as well thought out and mature. Others, such as in this thread painfully reinforce your immaturity. We all had go through this when we grew up. The good news you have time for it to happen normally.

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...for those who are still considering a donation, please check with your employer. Many employers (especially the larger ones) may make a matching donation with proof of your donation. It may require you to make the donation through a specific organization. For example, my wife's company (Lockheed Martin) is matching donations up to a certain amount if the funds are directed through the American Red Cross or the International Federation of the Red Cross.

[06 Maestro]

The comparative wealth of nations is not really that important in deciding to donate. As an example; about 35 years ago there was a very nasty and long lingering arctic weather front that moved into the U.S. north east. Even though up state N.Y. is normally a winter wonderland, this cold was too much for the area-there were fatalities IIRC. Germany (perhaps some other nations) began a large scale winter relief program-gathering heavy winter clothing for Americans. Whoever received such aid from Germany were no doubt very grateful.

The situation in Japan is truly catastrophic. It is not just those who lost homes and the basics for survival, but a large part of the nation is suffering from reduced electricity service resulting in factory shutdowns. In view of the long term economic difficulties that Japan has been dealing with, this disaster is even more difficult to handle.

If the situation is bad enough for even China to give aid to Japan (as far as I know, a first), the situation is bad. People should give what they can.

BTW, I did not know about corporate matching donations-thanks for the link. I am going to lay that on my employer.

[V22 Osprey]

I didn't know having a different opinion made me immature, just because it's about donations. However I will be happily leaving this forum. Hope Japan recovers, although I think financially and mentally they can handle it on their own. Good Day.

[Erik Rutins]

Ok, any more attempts to derail this thread will result in bans. Consider yourselves warned.

Now, back on topic, this is a useful page that Google has setup:

http://www.google.com/crisisresponse/ja ... e2011.html

[jomni]

Japan donations are lagging compared to Katrina.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/18/pf/japa ... me_oneline

[GaryChildress]

ORIGINAL: jomni

Japan donations are lagging compared to Katrina.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/18/pf/japa ... me_oneline

I don't know if it is so much a case that people don't care as much about Japan as it is the case that people just can't afford to donate as much in this horrible economy. But, yes, that's sad. IIRC Japan donated a lot to Katrina victims. [:(]