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RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
Actually, I've been uncomfortable using the Esc and other keys; sometimes the combat replay enters express mode and then it can be difficult to slow it back down again.
But I'll give the Esc key a chance next time I start a "ground bombing of Burma" turn! [8|]
But I'll give the Esc key a chance next time I start a "ground bombing of Burma" turn! [8|]

"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
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RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
ORIGINAL: PzB
Actually, I've been uncomfortable using the Esc and other keys; sometimes the combat replay enters express mode and then it can be difficult to slow it back down again.
But I'll give the Esc key a chance next time I start a "ground bombing of Burma" turn! [8|]
if you click esc during a combat it goes into express mode, next esc click closes the window (as soon as the combat ends and shows the combat report). Then the replay continues and is in normal speed. If you click esc outside a combat window during the replay, it also goes into express mode but if you click left mouse button it goes back into normal speed again.
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RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
Some of the pilots I have received or trained have ok Air ratings but defensive ratings are very poor.
Set them to 100% Training, Sweep, at 100 ft altitude to get their Defense experience up. It raises their Strafing experience, but more importantly their Defense experience (and indirectly their overall experience levels).
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RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
ORIGINAL: castor troy
ORIGINAL: PzB
Actually, I've been uncomfortable using the Esc and other keys; sometimes the combat replay enters express mode and then it can be difficult to slow it back down again.
But I'll give the Esc key a chance next time I start a "ground bombing of Burma" turn! [8|]
if you click esc during a combat it goes into express mode, next esc click closes the window (as soon as the combat ends and shows the combat report). Then the replay continues and is in normal speed. If you click esc outside a combat window during the replay, it also goes into express mode but if you click left mouse button it goes back into normal speed again.
I also use the 'esc' key. I do sometimes find it leads to CTD though...........
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RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
Thx for the advice guys, will try both ESC and the training approach to increase Defensive! [:)]
On Saturday I'm going to the States for 3 weeks, not sure how many turns I'll be able to do in this period.
- Not a great experience to revert to a small laptop with a 1200x1020 resolution...
My grand plan is to get a flight in an authentic warbird; a P-51 Mustang is on the top of my wish list! [&o]
On Saturday I'm going to the States for 3 weeks, not sure how many turns I'll be able to do in this period.
- Not a great experience to revert to a small laptop with a 1200x1020 resolution...
My grand plan is to get a flight in an authentic warbird; a P-51 Mustang is on the top of my wish list! [&o]

"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
We demand photos - although maybe not of the cockpit directly afterwards... 


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RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
ORIGINAL: PzB
Thx for the advice guys, will try both ESC and the training approach to increase Defensive! [:)]
On Saturday I'm going to the States for 3 weeks, not sure how many turns I'll be able to do in this period.
- Not a great experience to revert to a small laptop with a 1200x1020 resolution...
My grand plan is to get a flight in an authentic warbird; a P-51 Mustang is on the top of my wish list! [&o]
Good luck in fulfilling that dream , it would be fantastic indeed. 3 weeks might give andy time for a much needed breather in your game. have fun regardless.
sorry for the spelling . English is my main language , I just can't type . and i'm too lazy to edit 
RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
Remember, that this is the raid to destroy more Allied squads, of which they currently should be short, not any land-grab. Probably within 5-6 months situation will be under control, so you should strike quick, to worse his situation. Divisions in line will be completely passive, and their few engineers will not help much in building forts.ORIGINAL: PzB
Not given up on New Caledonia either Inq [:D]
Takes 3 months to prep those divs...and I'm more than happy to reinforce our outer perimeter and build up a strong reserve for now.
The time we have bought will pay dividends when 4000 additional worth of AV can be placed in the line over the next few months.
- This together with 5 divisions of reserves will enable us to put up a tough defense or strong counterattack when required.
I was actually thinking about landing at Tasmania, and bombarding Australian industry from there [:D]
Is industry completely destroyed during firestorms? Anyway, I am guessing extracting troops afterwards will be impossible.
I have interesting plan for Kuriles defense. Get some non-perma-restricted Divisions in Manchuria/Japan/China. Get them planning for all islands in chain. When Allies come conquering, you just buy-out appropiate Division and make counter-invasion [8D]
Oh yeah. Be careful with that. I had it already several times. Only ONE click at a time.ORIGINAL: Speedy
I also use the 'esc' key. I do sometimes find it leads to CTD though...........
RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
Thx Guys, in Stamford now preparing to investigate the Big Apple [:)]
Because of time differenes it's early in the morning and I'm wide awake, so doing some reading and will try a turn on my laptop!
Pictures there will be Al, if I manage to coordinate a flight!
I'm not the airsick guy, just seasick and bus sick [:'(]
What I'm afraid of Inq is that Andy will take advanage of the opportunity if we tie down the Combined Fleet to a far away offensive.
Not convinced our LBA can thwart an Allied offensive against SRA or Line Ilands alone, but I see the potential.
I'm also low on highly trained naval pilots; loosing another 100 ad I have to pull pilots from LBA units.
In 1 month we should be better of, but still it would take 3 months to prepare a major invasion and I'm not sure I can afford the supply and fuel drain of
supporting a New Caledonia offensive either.
Read something interesting the the "Fortress Rabaul book":
"Mitsubishi heavy industries built the majority of its Type 0 fighters (Zero) at the Nagoya Aircraft Works, a huge factory in the densly crowded port city of Nagoya.
The plant had recently been enlarged to more tha 1.6 million square fee and boasted a workforce of some 30000 people, but for all that it did not produce complete airplanes.
Due to a combination of industrial congestion and inconceivable shortsightedness, the aircraft factory had been built miles from the nearest airfield.
As a result, the plant was restricted to producing subassemblies rather than whole planes. The engine, wings, fuselage, and tail section all had to be transported thirty miles to
an airfield big enough for assembly and testing. There were no rail lines available, and the streets of Nagoya were too narrow for large trucks. Horse-drawn wagons had been tried,
but their speeds over the narrow, rough roads caused too much damage to the aircraft components. Thus the Japanese resorted to using primitive oxcarts to haul the
subassemblies of their modern fighter to Kagamigahara airfield. It took 24 hours for each time of lumbering oxen to cover the 30 miles through the crowded streets.
No improvements were made to the roads, which deteriorated as production rates increased and more oxcarts were employed. Determined to build more Zeroes, the Imperial
Navycontracted with another aircraft manufacturer, Nakajima, whose plant eventually exceeded Mitsubishi's in monthly production; but even at their highest output, the two
factories averaged only 140 aircraft per month."
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I find it incredible that the Japs couldn't lay down a rail line to transport the Zero sub assemblies to the nearest airfield.
The ability to contract other manufacturers was clearly an option, so why only Nakajima was empoyed seems like a mystery.
If Speer had been sent over he would have had a heart attack...mindset and incompetence truly limited Japan's war industry capacity - removing these obstacles
altogether in WitP AE and you get a competely different game.
Mindset and culture were in my eyes two of the most important factors that decided the outcme of WWII in the Pacific; and this applies to both sides.
If you want to simulate the war accurately industry, cross service cooperation as well as Allied inabilities to take heavy and unnecessary casualties must be part of the equation.
Because of time differenes it's early in the morning and I'm wide awake, so doing some reading and will try a turn on my laptop!
Pictures there will be Al, if I manage to coordinate a flight!
I'm not the airsick guy, just seasick and bus sick [:'(]
What I'm afraid of Inq is that Andy will take advanage of the opportunity if we tie down the Combined Fleet to a far away offensive.
Not convinced our LBA can thwart an Allied offensive against SRA or Line Ilands alone, but I see the potential.
I'm also low on highly trained naval pilots; loosing another 100 ad I have to pull pilots from LBA units.
In 1 month we should be better of, but still it would take 3 months to prepare a major invasion and I'm not sure I can afford the supply and fuel drain of
supporting a New Caledonia offensive either.
Read something interesting the the "Fortress Rabaul book":
"Mitsubishi heavy industries built the majority of its Type 0 fighters (Zero) at the Nagoya Aircraft Works, a huge factory in the densly crowded port city of Nagoya.
The plant had recently been enlarged to more tha 1.6 million square fee and boasted a workforce of some 30000 people, but for all that it did not produce complete airplanes.
Due to a combination of industrial congestion and inconceivable shortsightedness, the aircraft factory had been built miles from the nearest airfield.
As a result, the plant was restricted to producing subassemblies rather than whole planes. The engine, wings, fuselage, and tail section all had to be transported thirty miles to
an airfield big enough for assembly and testing. There were no rail lines available, and the streets of Nagoya were too narrow for large trucks. Horse-drawn wagons had been tried,
but their speeds over the narrow, rough roads caused too much damage to the aircraft components. Thus the Japanese resorted to using primitive oxcarts to haul the
subassemblies of their modern fighter to Kagamigahara airfield. It took 24 hours for each time of lumbering oxen to cover the 30 miles through the crowded streets.
No improvements were made to the roads, which deteriorated as production rates increased and more oxcarts were employed. Determined to build more Zeroes, the Imperial
Navycontracted with another aircraft manufacturer, Nakajima, whose plant eventually exceeded Mitsubishi's in monthly production; but even at their highest output, the two
factories averaged only 140 aircraft per month."
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I find it incredible that the Japs couldn't lay down a rail line to transport the Zero sub assemblies to the nearest airfield.
The ability to contract other manufacturers was clearly an option, so why only Nakajima was empoyed seems like a mystery.
If Speer had been sent over he would have had a heart attack...mindset and incompetence truly limited Japan's war industry capacity - removing these obstacles
altogether in WitP AE and you get a competely different game.
Mindset and culture were in my eyes two of the most important factors that decided the outcme of WWII in the Pacific; and this applies to both sides.
If you want to simulate the war accurately industry, cross service cooperation as well as Allied inabilities to take heavy and unnecessary casualties must be part of the equation.

"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
is it true, if you leave a CVE in port empty of planes, and CVL's, that they will receive new aircraft replacement squadrons? Did not know this if so.
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RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
ORIGINAL: Journier
is it true, if you leave a CVE in port empty of planes, and CVL's, that they will receive new aircraft replacement squadrons? Did not know this if so.
The reinforcements are due Dec. 1, 1943. To actually get them, you need to take existing AC off the CVEs and park the CVE in a port of size 7 or greater. If these conditions are not met, then the reinforcements will stay at 2 days delay until the conditions are met.
RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
ahh, thank you very much.
RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
is java resource rich?
RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
ORIGINAL: PzB
What is interesting is that our CVEs and CVLs have generated new air groups that will arrive as reinforcements shortly.
This happens when this kind of ship sits in a major sizeed port for some time.
Really? [X(]
I have never heard about it
If so, that's a kind of undocumented feature... can you please comment on it?
What happens then with their organic groups?
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RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
PzB: I've been to that Mitsubishi factory on a sales call. They have models of most of their aircraft, from A5M to F-2, if I remember correctly, in a case in the reception area (it was about 12 years ago). I've got the "Fortress Rabaul" book as well, but if I'm not mistaken I asked an MHI guy about the lack of an airfield nearby and he mentioned they shipped the Zeros by barge to the airfield in the old days. Now the plant is used to make subassemblies.
Tooze's "Wages of Destruction" takes some of the gloss off the Speer myth.
Anyway, don't want to derail anything. Good work and it's highly entertaining reading yours and Andy Mac's AARs.
Cheers,
CC
Tooze's "Wages of Destruction" takes some of the gloss off the Speer myth.
Anyway, don't want to derail anything. Good work and it's highly entertaining reading yours and Andy Mac's AARs.
Cheers,
CC
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RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
Just back from my 3 weeks trip to the States, check out this link! [8D]
Combat ops are expected to be resumed tomorrow!
Now that is kewl C-Cody, you got some pictures?
Got Wages of Destruction, just have to rewind and re-read it - got a tad heavy even for me [;)]
Guess what I've been getting a ride in [&o]

Combat ops are expected to be resumed tomorrow!
Now that is kewl C-Cody, you got some pictures?
Got Wages of Destruction, just have to rewind and re-read it - got a tad heavy even for me [;)]
Guess what I've been getting a ride in [&o]

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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
Does that B24 fly? Love to fly in that one.
Got to get into an HE-111 back in the day when the Confederate Air Force came to my home town. What a tiny plane compared to a 17!
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RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
Alas, no photos. Most aerospace companies and defense establishments are a bit anal on the photography, so I would never bring a camera on a sales call.
EDIT: Your photos are great. Need to do that someday.
Cheers,
CC
EDIT: Your photos are great. Need to do that someday.
Cheers,
CC
Beer, because barley makes lousy bread.
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RE: The Empire Strikes Back!
Lucky sod ! [;)]..
Good to hear you had a great time PzB and welcome back.
Good to hear you had a great time PzB and welcome back.
sorry for the spelling . English is my main language , I just can't type . and i'm too lazy to edit 







