StuG BS discussions

[Mobius]

ORIGINAL: Yoozername
Should the '4's be 14????

No, it's 4 or actually 3.88..%.

[Yoozername]

So, the chance of penetration goes from 26%, to 4%, then back up to 8%?

[Yoozername]

ORIGINAL: Prince of Eckmühl

ORIGINAL: Yoozername

ORIGINAL: Prince of Eckmühl

Line drawings, for comparisons sake, of the same vehicles in hull-defilade view:

What is it you are trying to show with this information?

Just wanted to compare the types as targets in hull-defilade. Clearly, the Stug has "a lot more to offer" the enemy in that regard.

The 'regard' being you posting a 1941 turret compared to a 1943 AFV????

[Mobius]

ORIGINAL: Yoozername

So, the chance of penetration goes from 26%, to 4%, then back up to 8%?

There is an 26% then another 4% then another 8% further out. By additive I thought you meant were the % numbers added into the totals.

[Yoozername]

Well, I hope that clears it up for everybody.  RELEASE THE UPDATE!!

[Mus]

ORIGINAL: ezz

{Repeat post..
Sorry about that but I find repeating a point 100 times makes it more believable.}

I would like to bring something to the developer's attention. I see this game is almost ready for publication. However you have still not addressed a very serious problem.
Specifically the stats for the PzIIf.

I have, after meticulous research, discovered that when this tank was deployed with the Spanish Blue Division a modification was made. The Spanish maintenance crews suggested a way to increase the armour of the PzIIf.
This consisted of them making a batch of Paella and smearing it on the front armour. Now this , sometimes with added Chorizo, greatly increased the ability of the vehicle to withstand AP shells. By as much as perhaps 25mm...No, make that 60mm.

I travelled to the Canary islands, and at Fuertoventura discovered a small WWII museum. I immediately checked the PzIIf there. It had greasy, slimy, food stains right across the front armour. Also a ceramic plate, metal knife, wine bottle,and a small cloth banner had been added to the turret. I asked the museum's curator to comment.

"Hmm.. it looks like the janitor has been having his lunch. Look, there's his tablecloth."

HAH! WRONG!

After much research I can assure you that the German Panzer regiments also made up a Paella/Pea Sausage/150g of crackers, modification locally. This unauthorised up-armouring had the effect of making the front armour of a PzIIf the equivalent of a KV-1. Far from ripping the turret off and flinging it 100m into the sky, a 76mm shell would bounce harmlessly off.

I ask the developer this.

1.Will the new 'ration covering,' unofficial armoured modification, be included in this game. For historical accuracy it can hardly be ignored!
2. Will the modification now permit the PzIIf to be impervious to all but rounds fired at close range from an IS-2 ?
3. Would you like some information on the rocket propelled, high impact, wooden AP projectile that some special rifles were adapted to fire? I have a picture of a modified Kar-98 stool-leg that I can post.
{Some claim it is in fact a rifle resting by a chair. But that is opinion only for the uniformed..}

I await your reply with a mix of amusement, outrage, schizophrenia, humour, bile, breathlessness and incredulity.
{Incredulity only if you fail to grasp my genius.}

Uzi-name.

You win the thread btw.

[Yoozername]

http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/ttt08/russian-tank-tactics-wwii.html
 
Interesting targeting information.  Note that the sloped surfaces are not mentioned...
 
(3) Against the self-propelled assault gun, fire as follows:

(a) From the front--against the front of the hull, the drivers port, and below the tube of the gun;
(b) From the side--against the armor protecting the engine, and the turret.
(c) From behind--against the exhaust vent and directly beneath the turret.
 
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[Mobius]

The "turret gear box" must be the turret ring.

I did find that the Mark IV had an inner mantlet as well as an outer mantlet. But it has cutouts for the MG and sights and may be only 10-25mm.

[Mad Russian]

So, after weeks this thread wakes up again....

When you're in a PzIV you'll take all the protection you can get 10-25mm is more than 0.

Good Hunting.

MR

[Mobius]

ORIGINAL: Mad Russian

So, after weeks this thread wakes up again....

Yousirname must have seen his shadow 6 weeks ago.[:D]

[Yoozername]

Mad Russian must not have had his Big Movement he sensed coming..,.

[Mad Russian]

Or maybe he did see the Big Movement he saw coming...and maybe you didn't see it.

Good Hunting.

MR

[Prince of Eckmühl]

ORIGINAL: Yoozername

Mad Russian must not have had his Big Movement he sensed coming..,.

lewis, your "genius-expert" status is in jeopardy.

Back in October, a new poster showed up over at BF by the name of "Jadgzilla."

In his first and only contribution, he resurrected a two-year old thread that proceeded to go on for several months and another eighteen pages:

http://www.battlefront.com/community/sh ... stcount=87

Jadgzilla never posted to the forum again.

Real talent, wouldn't you say Mr. Tittles?[8|]

[Yoozername]

I would add 'paranoid' to your list of personality disorders.  Also, I see you did not have the guts to add your CONCRETE theories to that thread?  Why not share your spamming there?  Or have you just settled on being a occasional troll now?

[Hellmann]

ORIGINAL: Yoozername

Pat yourself on the back prince.  You are the texas-troll on a saturday night!

Eh, no hot-dates lately? That's Ok, I see that yappy lapdog in the picture and feel I know everything about you.

Edit: I have to be honest, your trolling, while desperate and obviously 'long' thought out has me puzzled. Try to explain to me, using your extensive texas education, what you think you are saying, what you think it accomplishes, and how anyone would care. Thanks. Troll.

saturday

What I found most interesting about your post was it says here on the screen that Prince of Eckmühl's post was on 12/12/2010 5:50:10 AM, and your above reply was on 12/12/2010 6:22:02 AM... less than an hour between both posts? So isn't it rather hypocritical to say "no hot dates on a Saturday night" when you were clearly in the same position? We know he's in Texas, so what timezone were you in when you wrote that? Where were you... Israel... UK.. Switzerland.. Japan.. China.. Australia? If you were in somewhere like say, east coast USA like New York (which I am guessing you are from your arrogant attitude), then were you not actually in a more embarrassing position on a Saturday night than Prince was?

Actually, don't even bother replying, it's not as if I'm ever going to reply to you or bother reading this thread again. What I found most fascinating about this entire thread most of all was that people actually took time to respond after you stated your title of "genius expert". Myself, I rather tend not to bother wasting any time on self-satisfied, mentally challenged know-it-all's like you. Auf Wiedersehen.

[Mobius]

Saturday is more of a couples night out.  Friday night is for singles.[:D]

[junk2drive]

Been so long I don't remember.

[Yoozername]

Actually, don't even bother replying, it's not as if I'm ever going to reply to you or bother reading this thread again.

Oh, no bother at all. But you read the whole thing huh?

Why do I get the feeling that he is 'bothered' and will 'reply'? Say what you might about the internet; But its given the cowards of this planet a place to call home.

[Mobius]

A wee bit of StuG action.

http://frontkaempfer.blogspot.com/2011/ ... -1943.html

Bolshevik!

[Erik Rutins]

Yoozername,

Also noting here that personal attacks are not allowed, that includes condescending insults. Formal warning, as noted in the other thread. Please post with civility or you'll get a vacation from the forum to reconsider.

Regards,

- Erik