Most useless Allied plane?

[crsutton]

My vote is the boomerang. By the time it comes into production it is already outclassed by every Japanese aircraft save the Oscar.... I got over two hundred in the pool now but am only using them in one squadron-out of pity.

[AW1Steve]

My vote is the Stearman. It's a trainer. Usefull only in replacing good planes. But so is the P-26,B-10,B-18,P-36, etc.etc.

[crsutton]

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

My vote is the Stearman. It's a trainer. Usefull only in replacing good planes. But so is the P-26,B-10,B-18,P-36, etc.etc.

Well they are pre-war models that never see production in the game. How about production models? The navy gets a great coronado transport but so far every squadron that I see than can take it is restricted to the mainland. Not much need for them in San Francisco......[:D]

[Smeulders]

I vote Wirraway, completely useless for everything but training (100 lb bombs ?) and you're forced to give it to half the Australian air force. The Boomerang at least has 500lb bombs and can defend against sub float planes.

Originally I was going for the Vincent I, strinbag without torpedo, but it does have a 1000lb bomb.

[FatR]

Audax/Wapiti. Worse than Wirraway. Never saw anyone use them for anything but training.

[Cap Mandrake]

I have often wondered how many chromosomes the RAAF director of procurement had.

The only good thing one can say about the Wapiti is it was slow enough to not knock the turbans off of Sikh pilots.

I once saw a Vincent hit a sub.....well....... that is what the pilot said.

[vettim89]

ORIGINAL: FatR

Audax/Wapiti. Worse than Wirraway. Never saw anyone use them for anything but training.

Well no one can deny the uselessness of those airframes, I still vote for Wirrway because the Allied player gets so many Sq with them and they are around for a lot longer period of time

[Bradley7735]

The Dutch recon plane. It's got a range of 3. It doesn't upgrade to anything. It's more than useless.

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: FatR

Audax/Wapiti. Worse than Wirraway. Never saw anyone use them for anything but training.

I was gonna say the Anson (Right? That's how little I like it; I can't remember it.)

But nothing beats the Audax.

[Smeulders]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: FatR

Audax/Wapiti. Worse than Wirraway. Never saw anyone use them for anything but training.

I was gonna say the Anson (Right? That's how little I like it; I can't remember it.)

But nothing beats the Audax.

Anson was one of my early ideas as well, but it is actually half-decent for ASW operations around ports. It has radar and 250lb bombs that will do some damage to subs.

As for the Dutch recon, that frame has actually flown combat missions in my game, and I could find uses for range 3 recon planes even now. It's the worst recon, but I'd still trade them 1-1 for some other frames I have rusting in the pools.

[spence]

The navy gets a great coronado transport but so far every squadron that I see than can take it is restricted to the mainland. Not much need for them in San Francisco......

VP-13 used the Coronado as a Patrol Bomber late in the war. In fact there are some great pictures on the Squadron History Page at VPNavy that clearly show how the Navy VPBs acted on Naval Attack (versus the USAAF 4Es). The planes were operating in pairs and one took pictures while the other attacked. The altitude of the attacks is clearly less than 1000 ft (not less than 10k, less than 1k feet). The targets are merchies.

I guess the real point re your comment is that these aircraft were operating near Korea and Japan in 1945. I think there were only two squadrons that used them at all.

Otherwise my vote is for the Wapiti.

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: Smeulders

Anson was one of my early ideas as well, but it is actually half-decent for ASW operations around ports. It has radar and 250lb bombs that will do some damage to subs.

What's the total build-out though?

[AW1Steve]

Any votes for the Lysander? In real life it was an "Army co-operation" aircraft (in the game it can't recon) and an excellent "spydropper". As a bomber, or fighter?........not so good.[:D]

[Smeulders]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: Smeulders

Anson was one of my early ideas as well, but it is actually half-decent for ASW operations around ports. It has radar and 250lb bombs that will do some damage to subs.

What's the total build-out though?

Not sure what you mean with total build-out, total number produced ? With 2 a month from 7/42 onwards you're not going to get heaps of them, but more than enough to equip one or two squadrons and keep them flying.

The Lysander can in fact do recon flights and has a camera, so it can be used as subpar recon. It's other stats are also better across the board than the Audax (except manoeuvre), so it's certainly not the worst plane out there.

[topeverest]

FK 51, though there definately have been some good suggestions that could be viewed as bad.

[CaptBeefheart]

Dragon Rapide? If nothing else, it's a funky looking bird.

Cheers,
CC

[sspahr]

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

Any votes for the Lysander? In real life it was an "Army co-operation" aircraft (in the game it can't recon) and an excellent "spydropper". As a bomber, or fighter?........not so good.[:D]

In AE the Lysander does have a camera and can fly recon missions. Maybe you're thinking back to WITP.

I'd have to vote for the Wapiti as most useless -- too little range for ASW or nav search and not much payload.

[HansBolter]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: FatR

Audax/Wapiti. Worse than Wirraway. Never saw anyone use them for anything but training.

I was gonna say the Anson (Right? That's how little I like it; I can't remember it.)

But nothing beats the Audax.

The Audax has a range of 3/4 which makes it a better platform for close to port ASW than the Wapaita (sp?) which has a range of 2/3.

[HansBolter]

ORIGINAL: Smeulders

I vote Wirraway, completely useless for everything but training (100 lb bombs ?) and you're forced to give it to half the Australian air force. The Boomerang at least has 500lb bombs and can defend against sub float planes.

Originally I was going for the Vincent I, strinbag without torpedo, but it does have a 1000lb bomb.

I use the Wirraways for close to port ASW. They might not sink many subs, but at least they keep them spotted so I can vector surface ASW TFs in thier direction.

[GaryChildress]

ORIGINAL: Smeulders

I vote Wirraway, completely useless for everything but training (100 lb bombs ?) and you're forced to give it to half the Australian air force. The Boomerang at least has 500lb bombs and can defend against sub float planes.

Originally I was going for the Vincent I, strinbag without torpedo, but it does have a 1000lb bomb.

My vote is for the Wirraway as well. At least most of the other planes mentioned so far are in limited numbers. The Wirraway is almost the only fighter the Australians get for a long while. [:@]