Renault AGR2, Camion DCA 75mm

jphamel · Post by **jphamel** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 9:40 am

R AGR2 -- Why is there a picture of a boat instead of a truck.

Camion DCA 75mm is an airplane pic

Anyone has the same problem, is there a fix for this?

I know it's not important for gameplay but anyway if there is a fix I'd be interested to have it.

BTW I have v7.1

tiggwigg · Post by **tiggwigg** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 11:43 am

The French Laffly prime mover pic is also a boat.

I also query why the French 75mmAA gun has an AT penetration value of 26 when it has AT ammo...any other heavy AA gun has well over a hundred...the poor old french can't even put a hole in a 44gallon drum!

David boutwell · Post by **David boutwell** » Sat Dec 14, 2002 9:14 am

Gentlemen,

I think I can hook you up with the correct graphics, if you are interested. Let me know.

Regards,

David Boutwell

jphamel · Post by **jphamel** » Sat Dec 14, 2002 9:21 am

I sure am interested, would be much better seing a truck when its a truck not a boat:)

How do we proceed, you post them here?

Thanks!

David boutwell · Post by **David boutwell** » Sat Dec 14, 2002 8:05 pm

JP,

I'll add them to an attachment right here. What I do is download images from websites or scan them as jpegs. The, using Paintshop Pro, I change the image to an lbm file, which is what the game uses, with the correct image size, pallette, etc.. So, I need to make sure that I have done that for the images that I am sending you, in case you are not familiar with this process. Are you working on customizing and expanding your French oob's? They are still very incomplete, and I have been working on fixing that, but the game oob's keep changing. This forces me to start over, basically. However, I think, but could be wrong, that 7.1 is the final version. I can send you images of other equipment that is not included in the oob's, as well, if you'd like. By the way, where are you guys from?

Regards,

David Boutwell

"Out of ammunition. God save the King."

David boutwell · Post by **David boutwell** » Sat Dec 14, 2002 8:18 pm

Imagine the outcry if a German or Russian MBT had a picture of an assault raft!! But that is another story....

Supervisor · Post by **Supervisor** » Sat Dec 14, 2002 8:27 pm

David you know of the course of time and OOB changes occasionally the icon link to the proper picture gets messed up somewhere. Besides whats wrong with a truck that can drive on water? Just kidding. Before you scan in new pictures see if you can find the proper icon already within, it makes it easier to just alter the icon call out in the OOB then it is to create a new image and import it. The real expert on the Icon association and icon graphics is WARHORSE drop him a line and I promise he'll help you sort them out.

jphamel · Post by **jphamel** » Sat Dec 14, 2002 10:31 pm

Originally posted by David boutwell
JP,

I'll add them to an attachment right here. What I do is download images from websites or scan them as jpegs. The, using Paintshop Pro, I change the image to an lbm file, which is what the game uses, with the correct image size, pallette, etc.. So, I need to make sure that I have done that for the images that I am sending you, in case you are not familiar with this process.

Thanks!
I 'm not familiar with the process for now, but I'm quite confortable with PSP.

Are you working on customizing and expanding your French oob's? They are still very incomplete, and I have been working on fixing that, but the game oob's keep changing. This forces me to start over, basically.

No, I think I'm too lazy when it comes to fiddling with games.

Really, I don't have time for that, cause I spend my time playing the game.

However, I think, but could be wrong, that 7.1 is the final version. I can send you images of other equipment that is not included in the oob's, as well, if you'd like.

Maybe when combat leader comes out, every body will jump on it and SPWAW will be left aside for a while.

By the way, where are you guys from?

I'm from Montreal, I'm a programer analyst, have been for the last 6 years, but I started programming when I was around 15, which is about 20 years ago!

And this is a great community here, never seen so much help between the guys. Everyone seems to help everyone, this just maintains the addictiveness of the game.

And I'm waiting for my package Watchtower.

:D:D
I'm getting impatient, it's been 2 weeks.

PS, if you see any misspelled word, that is just 'cause I'm french canadian.

David boutwell · Post by **David boutwell** » Sun Dec 15, 2002 11:22 am

Originally posted by gmenfan
David you know of the course of time and OOB changes occasionally the icon link to the proper picture gets messed up somewhere. Besides whats wrong with a truck that can drive on water? Just kidding. Before you scan in new pictures see if you can find the proper icon already within, it makes it easier to just alter the icon call out in the OOB then it is to create a new image and import it. The real expert on the Icon association and icon graphics is WARHORSE drop him a line and I promise he'll help you sort them out.

Gmenfan,

I wouldn't be making any new scans. I worked on the French .LBM's about a year ago or more. I'll defintitely give the nod to Warhorse in the icon graphic arena, although I've done quite a few myself. But this doesn't involve icon associations, as you are probably very aware. It simply involves browsing the picture folder using whatever graphics viewing program one uses, finding the image that was, in the case of the AGR2, for some reason, "bumped", going into the oob editor and changing the .LBM value to 0240.

Actually, the .LBM that was associated with the AGR2 always struck me as being suspicious, as it was associated with several other "minor country" soft-skinned vehicles. To me, this meant that it probably was not an actual picture of the AGR2. So, I found several pictures of the AGR2 with documentation. Being a scientist, I kind-of have to "see it with my own eyes"....That being said, after finding images that I knew to be of this vehicle, and looking at the .LBM that represented this vehicle in the game, it very well may be an AGR2 (which is .LBM P0240).

Now, the Camion DCA 75mm...The actual name of this piece, according to teh documentation for French equipment in ASL is "autocanon de 75 mle 13/34". This was basically a SPAA gun. It consisted of a, "turntable-mounted mle 1897 field piece on a De Dion-Bouton auto chassis." The correct image for that weapon is P09998.

JP,

"No, I think I'm too lazy when it comes to fiddling with games. Really, I don't have time for that, cause I spend my time playing the game."

I personally derive much more pleasure from fiddling with icons, .LBM files, map and scenario research and design than I do playing the game, as I have played this game exclusively since 1995. And since then, with the exception of some really unique "international" scenarios created by fans from other countries such as Finland and Spain, scenario "diversity" has not really progressed. People in this community such as myself, are, and always have been, marginalized by those who are only interested in "playing the game".

Therefore, in light of your above statement, helping you is sort of like the Indians helping the Jamestown colonists through the "starving time". Kind of contributing to one's own future demise, isn't it? Nevertheless, I hope that I was of some help to you.

Regards,

David Boutwell

"Out of ammunition. God save the King."