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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

A few words about India from somebody who nearly lost it and who knows exactly how you feel at the moment.

Bombay and Karachi are, as you know, the keys.  Karachi is key for reinforcing - getting to India all the troops that will arrive at Aden in coming weeks and months.  If the enemy crosses the line of death, you do get the Waristan Division directly at Karachi, which adds 300 AV to your defenses.

Bombay is a great defensive position due to the major urban terrain.  You'll need to configure supply as best you can, but I'd definately try to hold Bombay with as much AV as I can muster.  If you can get 2,000 AV there, your opponent is going to have a really hard time taking it.

Calcutta is also major urban terrain.  In my game with Q-Ball, just the static fortress unit managed to hold against a division for several weeks.  If you can get more than that there it's probably worth it as a speed bump.  Your garrison will ultimately die, but it should be worth it to you.  Use air transport to extract troops from the Imphal/Ledo regions.

Do not impale yourself in southern India including Madras.  Your opponent can cut off your troops down there using armor, aircraft (to slow movement) and paratroops.  It aint worth losing troops.  Get those guys up to Bombay, Karachi, Surat, and Ahmadebad.

The line of death is well known. It's marked with a thick blue line on a map I posted in my AAR with Q-Ball - soemtime during the turns for March 1942.

Rader isn't a month ahead of Q-Ball.  Q-Ball landed at Ceylon on March 7, 1942.  He spent a month there, but by destroying a UK division it might have been worth it.  Your going to have a tough time until around September.  After that, if you manage to hold out, your opponent will begin to go on the defensive, will make mistakes, and you will score alot of points.  So you've got to hold for about six months.  It will be hard.

You might need to be prepared to sacrifice the RN if in doing so you can savage a big landing force or exact a heavy toll in enemy combat ships. 

I can't remember if your opponent took New Caledonia or Fiji, but plan to use your Aussie troops to reclaim them if so.  They are high value and you'll need to be doing something offensive in the Pacific while your opponent is tied up in India.

Good luck.

Hi CR! Many and big thanks to everyone who's taking time to write down suggestions and thoughts!

My opponent didn't take Fiji nor Noumea (he conquered the other dot-bases in New Caledonia tough).
I'm building up the defences around Karachi. Bombay is well guarded at the moment but i between Karachi and Bombay, following the path of the suggestions recieved here, if i'll have to chose i'll decide to defend Karachi till the very last men.
Everything you all said guys i well understood by me. The point is that i cannot do all the things you said at the same time. I cannot defend Scoodra, Diego, Bombay and Karachi, fight and delay the japanese advance but not without guarding my backdoor, engaging the KB but not risking the US CVs, sending units from EC to India but at the same time prepare a counterattack in the pacific or in the SRA.... everything at the same time! It's simply not possibile. I need to give myself priorities. Here are mines:

1. Keep Karachi safe. Karachi at this stage of the war is what moscow was the for russians in december 41. Every other objective will be prioritized keeping in mind that if it's directly or indirectly connected with the defence or Karachi it will have the means for its accomplishment, otherwise will be postponed. Bombay and the indian islands (Diego and Scoodra above all) will be part of the defence of Karachi plan.
2. Time gaining. I need to gain time for the defence or Karachi first and also to keep him deeply involved in India with his main assets while i'll be able to prepare my defensive/offensive positions in the pacific and in Oz.
3. Prepare a move somewhere in the pacific. Nopac is still my prefered theatre at the moment, cause i'll need little assets (he has nothing beyond Paramushiro) and the summer-window will end so soon that any counterattack of his will have to come (if i can keep him busy in India long enough) during the terrible blizzard. The alternatives are: a limited action in southern Marshalls (Tarawa for example) - which are still very lightly defended -, or a Fiji-New Caledonia reinforcement action (as CR suggested). The latter option is a risky one cause SOPAC is very far away from my main hub base (PH).
4. Connected to point 3. -> build up the hub-chain in CENTPAC. Christmas is being built up in these days. Soon i'll move units and supplies to Pago Pago in order to unite these two important bases that will act as hubs for my sealines



Mar 23-24 1942

The KB moved towards Scoodra again (westwards), leaving Karachi area. He's concentrating around Scoodra some SCTFs (with AVs and CSs in them) clearly in order to stop my route from CT to Aden channell. However this turn i managed to make a HUGE supply convoy (some 80k supplies in it) slip through the net of his search planes and arrive safely in Aden Channell. It will now move towards Karachi. More planes arrived today at Karachi from CT via Aden. A new US bomber squadron composed of 13 4Es and some 25 P-400 aircobras. Not bad i'd say. Now i have 52 active B17s in India and 26 Liberators! All the best ground-attack-pilots have been moved to these crack air-groups. Some 60k fuel are also arriving in the next days to Karachi.
Diego G. is surrounded by SCTFs and so it's Addu Isl.
At Comilla (north of Chittaong) despite the heavy air bombings (more than 150 IJN and IJAF bombers involved) his tanks didn't manage to take the base, while my guys are struggling to get off and move to Dacca.
A rail transport Indian division managed to disperse the paras that was blocking one of my railroads north of Dacca. Now a little exit door is open again for the Dacca garrison...let's see if i can save some of them.
He keeps on reconning every single base of mine...i fear paradrops everywhere so i'm guarding all the possible targets with at least 50 AVs... this disperdes my forces, i know, but it's part of the plan. The retreat will be made with order, step by step. Not like we did in China!
China...oh well in China Chungking and Chengtu are sieged. We're now waiting for the final assault.
However still no sign of any invasion force bypassing Colombo...as i guessed the KB wasn't escorting an amphib TF...was just raiding my sealanes and interdicting my reinforcements route. But, as long as she remains there burning fuel and op points for a couple of KVs or PGs i'm fine. That means she isn't somewhere else.
To answer to CR: yes, the RN is ready to make the supreme sacrifice if needed. Now sitting at CT but ready to enter in the arabian sea! I'm also considering to move it right now (in 3 different Aircombat TFs) into the Indian Ocean and deliver a fast blow to those CLs+DDs operating near Diego Garcia while the KB is busy trying to sink AKLs near Scoodra or Karachi. I'll move in, attack, and move out. This will force him either to leave Diego or move his KB from the Karachi-Scodra area...and this will be a victory all the same.
The 27th US Division has been ordered to move to East Coast. From there it will move to CT in an attempt to send some quality troops for the last defence of Karachi. May god bless those guys.

ABD...i discovered a very very very usefull thing! Never used it...and i have to say that sometimes the railroads as rapresented graphically aren't exactly the same as they are in reality...or maybe it's just that it's not always easy to understand if it's a road, a trail or a railroad! THANKS!

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Forgive me if you've already detailed this at length (I missed several days of reading due to power outage).
 
How much assault value do you have in India?  At this point, I'm guessing you probably have 5k or 6k assuming some of the UK divisions are posted there.  Is that right?
 
If so, you will be able to defend more than one location.  IE, you don't need 5k troops at Karachi. You could split your troops between Karachi, Ahmadebad and Bombay with some given to Calcutta.  That would be a fairly stout defense, especially since a "cross the line invasion" would add the Waristan Division to Karachi's defense automatically.
 
If your MLR consists of two or three strong bases, it really complicates things for Rader.  He'll need a huge army to reduce just one of those bases, but he'll have to watch his flank and keep you bottled up.  For instance, if he focuses on Karachi and you have, say, 2,500 AV there, he might need 5,000 AV - that's ten divisions.  While he's dealing with Karachi, meanwhile, you'll have another 2,500 or so AV on his right flank.  How is he going to deal with that?  How's he going to stop you from going on the offensive and threatening his positions to the south and east?
 
Also, you get regular reinforcements throughout the coming months, so your position gradually gets stronger and stronger.
 
If he takes Socotra it will complicate things for you, but you really can't defend it with ground troops.
 
Do you have transports (xAPs) at Aden to carry the "line of death" reinforcements to Karachi should the need arise?  Of course, if he's taken Bombay or Surat, he's going to impose a blockade with the KB and combat ships.  But you might be able to do an end run and counterinvade Socatra or even southern India to try to make life for him difficult.
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Forgive me if you've already detailed this at length (I missed several days of reading due to power outage).

How much assault value do you have in India?  At this point, I'm guessing you probably have 5k or 6k assuming some of the UK divisions are posted there.  Is that right?

If so, you will be able to defend more than one location.  IE, you don't need 5k troops at Karachi. You could split your troops between Karachi, Ahmadebad and Bombay with some given to Calcutta.  That would be a fairly stout defense, especially since a "cross the line invasion" would add the Waristan Division to Karachi's defense automatically.

If your MLR consists of two or three strong bases, it really complicates things for Rader.  He'll need a huge army to reduce just one of those bases, but he'll have to watch his flank and keep you bottled up.  For instance, if he focuses on Karachi and you have, say, 2,500 AV there, he might need 5,000 AV - that's ten divisions.  While he's dealing with Karachi, meanwhile, you'll have another 2,500 or so AV on his right flank.  How is he going to deal with that?  How's he going to stop you from going on the offensive and threatening his positions to the south and east?

Also, you get regular reinforcements throughout the coming months, so your position gradually gets stronger and stronger.

If he takes Socotra it will complicate things for you, but you really can't defend it with ground troops.

Do you have transports (xAPs) at Aden to carry the "line of death" reinforcements to Karachi should the need arise?  Of course, if he's taken Bombay or Surat, he's going to impose a blockade with the KB and combat ships.  But you might be able to do an end run and counterinvade Socatra or even southern India to try to make life for him difficult.

unfortunately CR my situation is pretty different. I have barely 3100 AVs at the moment for the defence of India. More reinforcements are on the way but the situation is grimm. I cannot really defend Calcutta under these circumstances. I need to defend Karachi and Bombay (as you did) and delay his advance as long as i can.
At Aden i have 40 AKs and 30 APs ready to bring in the reinforcements arriving.
If i have 2500 AVs in Karachi he will only need 5000??? He's bringing more than 130 units in India...so i guess there are gonna be far more than 10 divisions!!! The intel keeps on telling me "unit xxx loaded on xxxMaru moving to Chittaong"... so probably more than 150 units will be present on the sub continent in the next days... If he barely needs 2x AVs to reduce Karachi...well, simply, i'm toasted[:o]
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Take some deep breaths! He can take a base with 2x the garrison, but it would take a LONG time and would require the full attention of his airforce.

Where are your British units? Oz? You should have another Brit division arriving soon.

It will take him some time to marshal his forces and march across India. He can expedite things by (1) using para assault to seize forward bases and then using strategic movement, and (2) attacking weak Allied stacks and using his armor in reserve to advance. Anything you can do to "molest" and slow his advance will help you buy time. Bombing his units that are advancing in move mode will slow them down. Garrison bases to prevent paratroop assaults (just as you are doing) will help. Posting small units on rail lines will prvent him from using those lines if he does take a forward base (IE, a base in your rear area) by para assault.

If you have 3,100 AV, that's basically 3,500 AV since Waristan Div. immediately shows up at Karachi once Rader crosses the line. You should have several hundred more AV coming online over the next month or so. My initial thought would be to allocate 2,500 AV to Bombay (assuming I can configure the supply levels to my satisfaction) and the rest to Karachi, knowing that I get reinforcements that I can send to Karachi. Then, if I get Karachi up to around 1,000 AV or so - enough to thwart a seaborne invasion - then I would try to garrison Ahmadebad.

2,500 AV at Bombay might require 7,500 IJ AV over a long period of time.
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One other thought - if I thought there was a good chance the enemy would be able to back me into one final redoubt, I would choose Bombay over Karachi. Even though Karachi is your reinforcement portal, it's useless if your opponent can park the KB and combat TFs there to impose a blockade, plus use LBA to hammer any shipping. I'd rather defend Bombay. With that 4x terrain bonus and 2,500 or 3,000 (or more) AV, it would take him forever to capture it. Of course, getting supplies there will be a trick.
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Mar 23-24 1942

The KB moved towards Scoodra again (westwards), leaving Karachi area. He's concentrating around Scoodra some SCTFs (with AVs and CSs in them) clearly in order to stop my route from CT to Aden channell.

What are the chances he has AOs stashed far to the west out of your search range? Have you got ANY subs in the IO which can go look? I'd get a couple of the new USN fleet boats headed to CT/Colombo as soon as they arrive.

On that search issue, he could--not saying he is, as it would be pretty gutsy and hard to coordinate--be doglegging an amphib TF for Karachi far, far to the west out of air search range. If he is, the KB is already optimally placed to provide cover for the run in to the beach.
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It will take him some time to marshal his forces and march across India. He can expedite things by (1) using para assault to seize forward bases and then using strategic movement, and (2) attacking weak Allied stacks and using his armor in reserve to advance.

This is true, but he can also use sealift to go coastal very rapidly (Q-Ball got onto land and stayed there), and invest the west coast. Depending on how confident he is he knows the whereabouts and status of the RN. On that, I wouldn't expose the USN CVs to relieve Diego, and give him that last datum which tells him he has freedom of the seas around India to Bombay and north. If the USN CVs come out it should be to do a Midway to stave off auto-vic, not to harrass.
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Radar doesn't need in India, at the sites mentioned, the AV figures which are being bandied about. Three basic reasons why.

1. The Allied adjusted AV will be considerably less.
2. Far superior Japanese firepower will quickly whittle the raw, unadjusted Allied AV.
3. Aggressive defence by Japan will destroy Allied logistics.

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Mar 25-26 1942
 
The KB remains on a strange position between Bombay and Scoodra, right in the middle of the Arabian sea. His CLs moved from the KB and interrupted the sealanes between Karachi and Scoodra and between Scoodra and the CT Channell. He parked at 9 hex from karachi 3 single CL TFs...i cannot see what is he up to![&:]
At the same time there's a concentration of TFs (a mix bag of different ships) north of Attu Atoll, while some DDs are sorrounding Colombo. I think i'll pay a visit to them next turn moving some bombers to Colombo on Naval Strike mission. I think he's using his surface ships to strangle my communication lines, with the KB in the middle of this net ready to come in if the RN pops up.
With this net he sunk some 5 AKLs, an AVD and a 4 AKs this turn...all those ships were delivering supplies from CT to different indian locations (scoodra, Diego, Bombay, Karachi etc)...it's part of the game, i know. I'll lose many ships in the attempt of keeping India alive.
The RN we were sayin....well, the RN is ready to pay a fast visit to the AVs and DDs parked around Diego. Orders have been given. Few days and those pickets will be harrassed. Hopefully i'll be able to hit and run back before the KB can realize where the threat is and come into play.
 
...more news to follow...have to go out now
 
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Some thoughts on India.... i tried an half assed invasion of India (scenario 1), achieved what i wanted (mostly), undoubtably showed strategic ineptness and commited other heinous crimes against good play but i'll share anyway [:D]

So what stopped me - well defending in good terrain, invaluable force multiplier, it all buys time and time is what you want. Air Power or P-38 Lightnings and Allied 4E bombers. The Lightnings on sweep can go higher than all the Japanese planes, a squadron with the best pilots you can muster should get very good results. 4E bombers against ground units murderize them. In the open you will cause large casualties. In better terrain you won't kill so many but if there are only a couple of units a big strike will cause battle altering fatigue and disruption. I can tell you its pretty hard to attack with fatigue and disruption 60+. As i said bombers go in, you kill 3 men so it doesn't look effective. It is. Only caveat is the more units in the hex you are attacking the more the love gets spread out and over 4-5 units its probably not too effective. In that case bomb in the open. So sweep with P-38's then pulverise with 4E's. Also bombing changes mode from move to combat and slows em down. That buys time.

Of course pretty pointless buying time if you don't do something with it. So what to do, well if KB is in the Indian Ocean, its not in the Pacific. I'd suggest you need to make the KB sail to the Pacific. To do this you need to commit your carriers and start taking strategic targets. I'm thinking a regiment and bases in the Solomons, hell Shortlands if you think you can. Thats a 6 month shortcut to Japan. Wake and Marcus Islands etc. Its possible these are very very lightly garissoned at the moment and with no KB round to protect them.

Probe his DEI defenses. The Japanese can't be everywhere but they can concentrate force pretty quickly so don't hang around. A carrier strike in Southern DEI maybe towards Singers will get his attention - if you sail next to Padang you can port strike Singapore (hopefully lots of lovely tankers) - but you need to not get caught by Land Based Air and do enough damage that he needs to send KB to sort you out. When KB heads towards you you need that internal clock. Hopefully you are getting a feel for how Rader plays, how long it takes to travel from A to B. You want to attract KB not fight it.

Thats the last and probably most important point, know your opponent, how he plays, how he reacts, get a feel for his style and start trying to predict what he will do, then you may be able to bait him to traps.. Also he'll be doing the same to you so don't become too predictable and/or double think him, Princess Bride style :)

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Radar doesn't need in India, at the sites mentioned, the AV figures which are being bandied about. Three basic reasons why.

1. The Allied adjusted AV will be considerably less.
2. Far superior Japanese firepower will quickly whittle the raw, unadjusted Allied AV.
3. Aggressive defence by Japan will destroy Allied logistics.

Alfred

Well Alfred, you're probably right, but i have not many alternatives. I need to fight with what i have. So i think we'll find out pretty soon how's the allies's performance
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All very usefull and good tips guys. Thanks a lot!

I've studied the situation. I really do think he's going for Scoodra. That concentration of ships north of Attu Atoll moved somewhere where i cannot see it. I dispatched, as suggested, my subs to look for them but i think that was an operational concentration of some transport TFs (well and heavily escorted) that will now move northwest towards Scoodra under the umbrella of the KB which is parked right 7 hexes south east of Scoodra.
If he takes Scoodra life is gonna get even more difficult as CR said. With scoodra he completely shuts down the connection between CT and Aden...which is absolutely a MUST for my hopes...

Mar 27-28 1942

His SCTFs sunk what was left near Scoodra (i sent 2 more AKs in order to resupply the garrison there), then the KB paid an heavy visit to the island, causing a massive damage to the airstructures there.

His CLs keep on remaining parked 8 hexes west of Karachi, closing the door for any attempt of sending reinforcements directly from CT.

I tried to evacuate a Bde from Colombo. The airlift is going well from Madras, but the heavy equipment needed to be transported by ships...so i dispatched a couple of AKs from Bombay...unfortunately, on their way back from Colombo, they got sunk with all their loads by a TF composed of 3 DDs.

MY CVs are on the move...but unfortunately the AVs and CLs that were parked near Diego went away this turn :-( ....now they'll keep their route for now but without any prey left to hunt would be stupid to reveal my presence for nothing to be gained [:o]

On the sub-continent he's ready to conquer Dacca, after Comilla's fall. His tanks are roaming also northwards so i have to be ready to fall back quickly beyond the line of Calcutta.
He keeps on reconing my bases...
Heavy bombings at Dacca...something like 160 bombers prepared the way for the upcoming assault. My garrison is decimated and fatigued...won't oppose much resistance.

In China he's reducing Chengtu...with 200 Bombers that pay visit everyday my supplies won't last long...and without supplies we'll be doomed soon.


For what concerns the "diversion"...i'm thinking, as long as the KB remains in India, about a double operation starting in May. A minor one directed towards Addak Island in the Aleutinas, using fast transports escorted by a heavy cruiser division, and a major one, in the Marshalls, where i'll be using my main forces. (Tarawa and Mili i think).
I'm prepping for these 2 objectives... i chose these 2 because they're pretty close to my main pacific base (PH) and are logistically affordable...any move in SOPAC, at this stage (the development of my bases down there is pathetic) would be really painfull.

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Some thoughts on India.... i tried an half assed invasion of India (scenario 1), achieved what i wanted (mostly), undoubtably showed strategic ineptness and commited other heinous crimes against good play but i'll share anyway [:D]

So what stopped me - well defending in good terrain, invaluable force multiplier, it all buys time and time is what you want. Air Power or P-38 Lightnings and Allied 4E bombers. The Lightnings on sweep can go higher than all the Japanese planes, a squadron with the best pilots you can muster should get very good results. 4E bombers against ground units murderize them. In the open you will cause large casualties. In better terrain you won't kill so many but if there are only a couple of units a big strike will cause battle altering fatigue and disruption. I can tell you its pretty hard to attack with fatigue and disruption 60+. As i said bombers go in, you kill 3 men so it doesn't look effective. It is. Only caveat is the more units in the hex you are attacking the more the love gets spread out and over 4-5 units its probably not too effective. In that case bomb in the open. So sweep with P-38's then pulverise with 4E's. Also bombing changes mode from move to combat and slows em down. That buys time.

Of course pretty pointless buying time if you don't do something with it. So what to do, well if KB is in the Indian Ocean, its not in the Pacific. I'd suggest you need to make the KB sail to the Pacific. To do this you need to commit your carriers and start taking strategic targets. I'm thinking a regiment and bases in the Solomons, hell Shortlands if you think you can. Thats a 6 month shortcut to Japan. Wake and Marcus Islands etc. Its possible these are very very lightly garissoned at the moment and with no KB round to protect them.

Probe his DEI defenses. The Japanese can't be everywhere but they can concentrate force pretty quickly so don't hang around. A carrier strike in Southern DEI maybe towards Singers will get his attention - if you sail next to Padang you can port strike Singapore (hopefully lots of lovely tankers) - but you need to not get caught by Land Based Air and do enough damage that he needs to send KB to sort you out. When KB heads towards you you need that internal clock. Hopefully you are getting a feel for how Rader plays, how long it takes to travel from A to B. You want to attract KB not fight it.

Thats the last and probably most important point, know your opponent, how he plays, how he reacts, get a feel for his style and start trying to predict what he will do, then you may be able to bait him to traps.. Also he'll be doing the same to you so don't become too predictable and/or double think him, Princess Bride style :)

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For what concerns Air "superiority" i'm doing my best. I'm massing my top pilots in India but numbers are not on my side as you know. I've now 72 4Es ready to strike and some 100 P-40s with some decent reserves. The problem is that he can outclass and outnumber me 4 to 1 in every air battle. However i'll try to pick my battles and to force him to engage in bad conditions. Let's see...in the meanwhile i'll keep on preparing my inner defences...

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Mili i think starts with static defences, might be hard. If i were going to hit the Marshalls i'd go Ocean, Nauru and Kusaie and threaten to cut the whole place off. Supplies a bitch to run in for the Japanese once you get a few air bases set up. Kusiae might not be holdable but i think you want to make him react.

Think you're doing just fine against a much more experienced opponent, good luck [;)]
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Mili i think stats with static defences, might be hard. If i were going to hit the Marshalls i'd go Ocean, Nauru and Kusaie and threaten to cut the whole place off. Supplies a bitch to run in for the Japanese once you get a few air bases set up. Kusiae might not be holdable but i think you want to make him react.

Think you're doing just fine against a much more experienced opponent, good luck [;)]

Thanks mate! Oh, that's a very usefull information!!! Ocean, Naru and Kusaie? Never heard those names [:)]... Ok, i took a look...well, they can be expanded, it's true...but i'll be right between the Tarawa area and the Guadalcanal area...right in the middle of his bases...very very risky i'd say. Don't you think that Tarawa, once taken, could be enough? I mean, with my seabees i could bring it up to a decent level in a very short time, and, once estabilished as a main bomber base, i could threaten the whole Marshalls with my 4Es...right?
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Mili i think stats with static defences, might be hard. If i were going to hit the Marshalls i'd go Ocean, Nauru and Kusaie and threaten to cut the whole place off. Supplies a bitch to run in for the Japanese once you get a few air bases set up. Kusiae might not be holdable but i think you want to make him react.


Think you're doing just fine against a much more experienced opponent, good luck [;)]

Thanks mate! Oh, that's a very usefull information!!! Ocean, Naru and Kusaie? Never heard those names [:)]... Ok, i took a look...well, they can be expanded, it's true...but i'll be right between the Tarawa area and the Guadalcanal area...right in the middle of his bases...very very risky i'd say. Don't you think that Tarawa, once taken, could be enough? I mean, with my seabees i could bring it up to a decent level in a very short time, and, once estabilished as a main bomber base, i could threaten the whole Marshalls with my 4Es...right?

Yes, but honestly if you took just Tarawa i'd think (as the Japanese) so what. The Marshalls are a buffer. Kusaie outflanks them. Its close to Truk, so Japan will reinforce Ponape in response - opportunity for you, hes reacting to you. No way i'd suggest this if KB was in the Pacific, but its not....

Japanese long range air strke capability (over 8 hexes range) is basically the Netties (Bettys and Nells), with Zero escorts. The Netties outrange the zeros and really burn up if they meet CAP. Ideally you want to bait the Netties into attacking your carrier force (or other CAP'd target), watch them burn and then move in with your invasion force. I'm betting/guessing that there is not much air power in the Marshalls right now.. maybe a single unit of netties with maybe a single zero unit. Also there are not too many airbases they can operate out of (in the Marshalls), 4e's can subdue (from Tarawa maybe) those bases very well.

I realise its a lot easier to give advise than put it into practice, we've also all got our own styles so do what you're comfortable with.

Supply is the Japanese achilles heel. Subs can interdict it to a small extent, but airpower is what stops it


(edit add - also have you reconned Tarawa, its a bit of an iconic and obvious place to reinforce as the Japanese)
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Mar 29-30 1942

Japan always outplays me [:(] The KB splitted in two. The first KB division arrived close to Karachi just to find a cargo TF full of supplies that was exiting at full speed from the Aden Channell (was part of the big supplies-TF i managed to slip through the japanese net near Scoodra few days ago)...7 AKs sunk, one of them containing a priceless US bomber group [:@][:@][:@]
The other KB division moved towards Attu atoll to replenish (i spotted an AO TF close to this second CV car)...the presence of at least 5 jap CVs so close to Diego finally stops my attempt of harrassing the japanese shipping around Diego Garcia with my CVs...[:(]
No sign of the supposed Scoodra invasion TF this turn...i'm confused.... he's spending tons of fuel in the Arabian Sea with his whole combined fleet and i see no particular gain for these moves if they do not actually support an invasion... ok, he sunk few ships (like 20 till now) but strategically he's not gaining that much if he doesn't land somewhere near Bombay - or Karachi all the same - or if he doesn't take Scoodra...

However, the sacrifice of that supply TF meant some 12 TKs managed to get through and are now delivering their precious liquid to Karachi under the umbrella of my CAP.
I have 22 subs operating in the Arabian Sea but they don't seem to be able to locate a single target (Rader is smart...he keeps on moving his ships!) and when they do locate something, their shots always miss [:o]

Japanese troops entered at Dacca today, the place is already full of aircraft (no wonder) and the front is seriously getting close to Calcutta now...i will have to leave this part of the map very very soon

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A very very very tense turn!

Mar 30-31 1942

Rader sent his CLs into Karachi harbour in order to get my shippings...the CLs, in conjuction with a sub, sunk a TK and some AKs, plus some minor aux units. However when the day came my torpedo bombers finally paid a visit and in 2 days of fierce battles we managed to sunk one of his dreaded CLs!!...this is the first japanese major ship sunk during this war...

At the same time, while a HUGE number of jap ships are moving up and down on in the Arabian Sea (between Scoodra and Attu), my Brit CVs managed to slip under a storm and arrived near Scoodra, where more CLs and DDs were parked. We made a very tiny attack but a couple of torpedoes were delivered nonetheless!! Now we have to run away back to CT!!!

All in all...a good turn

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 31, 42
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 40,8, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Kuma

Allied Ships
AM Poole, Shell hits 6, and is sunk




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Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 40,8, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Natori

Allied Ships
xAKL Memphis City
xAKL Dumra, Shell hits 2
xAKL Shan Tung, Shell hits 14, and is sunk




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Day Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 40,8, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Kuma

Allied Ships
AM Cromarty, Shell hits 8, and is sunk


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 40,8, Range 3,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Kuma, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
KV Auricula, Shell hits 1, on fire
KV Nigella, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
KV Aster, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 40,8, Range 21,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Kuma

Allied Ships
AMc Ahmedabad




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Day Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 40,8, Range 4,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Natori

Allied Ships
ML No. 191, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
ML No. 193, Shell hits 4, and is sunk


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Submarine attack near Karachi at 37,6

Japanese Ships
SS I-122

Allied Ships
TK British Confidence, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires


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Sub attack near Karachi at 37,6

Japanese Ships
SS I-122

Allied Ships
TK British Confidence, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage *sinks*



SS I-122 launches 2 torpedoes




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Morning Air attack on TF, near Karachi at 40,8

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIa Trop x 13
Hurricane IIb Trop x 2
Swordfish I x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Natori, Torpedo hits 1




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Morning Air attack on TF, near Socotra at 12,10

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes


Allied aircraft
Swordfish I x 11


Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish I: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Michishio, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
E Ishinui



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Socotra at 9,10

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes


Allied aircraft
Swordfish I x 1


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Tama, Torpedo hits 1


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 01, 42

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 40,8, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Natori, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
PG Clive, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
PG Lawrence


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 40,8, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Natori

Allied Ships
xAKL Memphis City
xAKL Dumra, Shell hits 1



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Day Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 40,8, Range 4,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Natori

Allied Ships
KV Auricula, Shell hits 3, on fire




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Day Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 40,8, Range 4,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Natori

Allied Ships
PG Lawrence, Shell hits 3, on fire




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Morning Air attack on TF, near Karachi at 39,9

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes


Allied aircraft
Vildebeest III x 7
P-40E Warhawk x 7


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Natori, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk





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The real KB is again vanished in the "black corner" of my naval search...between Bombay, Karachi and Scoodra...

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