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RE: The fall of Scoodra

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The main forces will be loaded on different amphib TFs composed of 135 xAPs and 150 xAKs...should be enough

Aye... I can clearly see from that OOB that any light Japanese naval force in the area is clearly already doomed as it will never have the needed ammo to sink them all! Good call Pal! [:D] [;)]

Seriously, should be good enough [:)]
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RE: The fall of Scoodra

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just my two cents on saving APs until '43 for the conversion...
I don't remember the exact numbers but I'm pretty sure that there is already a huge difference in the unloading speed between xAP and AP - and then there is another step to the APA.... - so if you're feeling rather save I would suggest using the APs as well as they're better already... (well, probably stating the obvious here anyway - sorry if I was [:)]) - I know that every lost AP means one less APA from '43 onward - but it helps using them if you're sure that you can protect them.....

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RE: The fall of Scoodra

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just my two cents on saving APs until '43 for the conversion...
I don't remember the exact numbers but I'm pretty sure that there is already a huge difference in the unloading speed between xAP and AP - and then there is another step to the APA.... - so if you're feeling rather save I would suggest using the APs as well as they're better already... (well, probably stating the obvious here anyway - sorry if I was [:)]) - I know that every lost AP means one less APA from '43 onward - but it helps using them if you're sure that you can protect them.....



Oh really??? That's a great news!!! I should have at least 22 APs and some 15 AKs at SF...i could easily send them to the front if they can be helpfull....
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RE: The fall of Scoodra

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GreyJoy-

What is your timeframe for this invasion? Hopefully soon, like everyone has mentioned. Once you're there he can move aircraft there pretty quickly, and show up with a CA/CL/DD force quicker than you might think. For all we know it could be there now, with some amount of force.

Have you reconned the area heavily at numerious locations so he can't pinpoint your invasion? Do you know what he has in the area? Sounds like he is in full force in the Indian Ocean.

Once you invade and establish yourself there, can you hold? Or will these new islands just become POW camps for you...?

As far as I know, the Marshalls doesn't have a whole lot right off of the bat, unless he has sent stuff there. Doesn't sound like he has.

Keep up the good work.

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RE: The fall of Scoodra

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GreyJoy-

What is your timeframe for this invasion? Hopefully soon, like everyone has mentioned. Once you're there he can move aircraft there pretty quickly, and show up with a CA/CL/DD force quicker than you might think. For all we know it could be there now, with some amount of force.

Have you reconned the area heavily at numerious locations so he can't pinpoint your invasion? Do you know what he has in the area? Sounds like he is in full force in the Indian Ocean.

Once you invade and establish yourself there, can you hold? Or will these new islands just become POW camps for you...?

As far as I know, the Marshalls doesn't have a whole lot right off of the bat, unless he has sent stuff there. Doesn't sound like he has.

Keep up the good work.


Haven't reconned yet. First of all i want to obtain as much surprise effect as i can and recon will surely allarm him. Second i don't have any base in sight of the Gilbert/Marshalls...i'll start from Canton Is....will start to recon Baker next week...then within few days we will invade baker and soon estabilish there a base from where to recon Tarawa area....
It's a gamble, i know...i'm basing my conclusion that the whole area is not guarded by the fact that he has not built up any of those bases...not a single level of AF nor Port...that SHOULD mean he hasn't engeneers there to build it up...or at least that's what i hope.

Think that committing 3 divisions and a half (ten regiments) should be enough to hope to hold those bases in the long run....time is passing fast and India won't fall anytime sooner than August...and i recieve troops and planes every day in the US...i'm getting stronger and stronger...hopefully by the time he can come back in force i'll be strong enough to hope to hold the line
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RE: The fall of Scoodra

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i checked...APs unload at 600 points...the xAPs at 250!!! ...ok, will have to call them all back into service!
Really thanks!!!
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RE: The fall of Scoodra

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just my two cents on saving APs until '43 for the conversion...
I don't remember the exact numbers but I'm pretty sure that there is already a huge difference in the unloading speed between xAP and AP - and then there is another step to the APA.... - so if you're feeling rather save I would suggest using the APs as well as they're better already... (well, probably stating the obvious here anyway - sorry if I was [:)]) - I know that every lost AP means one less APA from '43 onward - but it helps using them if you're sure that you can protect them.....



Oh really??? That's a great news!!! I should have at least 22 APs and some 15 AKs at SF...i could easily send them to the front if they can be helpfull....
some

I just checked it - it's on pages 127 and 128 of the manual - but as you have much more important things to do in your game than check the manual - here's the quote [;)][8D]:

6.3.3.3.2.1 OVER THE BEACH
This is for assault unloading over the beach.
»» Beaching Craft. Beaching craft unload completely in one turn.
»» Attack Amphibious Ships. (APA/AKA plus LSD, LSV and British equivalents)
in Amphibious TFs, unload at a Rate of 3000 points per ship, per turn.

»» Regular Transport Ships. (Commissioned Naval AP/AK) in Amphibious
TFs, unload at a Rate of 600 points per ship per turn.
»» Merchant Ships. (xAP/xAK) in Amphibious TFs, unload
at a Rate of 250 points per ship per turn.

»» Special Japanese early war bonus of 1200 for all AP/AK and xAP/xAK types.



EDIT: LOL - just saw that you checked yourself....never mind [:D]
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RE: The fall of Scoodra

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How long is the early war bonus for Japan?
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RE: The fall of Scoodra

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Thank you Solinvictus!! You really gave me a great insight!!!

Jeffk...think by May 42 the bonus should be absolutely expired...
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RE: The fall of Scoodra

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If he doesn't have much force in the area, and you're confident you can take and hold, then you should be fine with the shipping you have...wait to see what CR and Nemo think....They're a tad more experienced than me...
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RE: The fall of Scoodra

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 14,15 42

Two days that saw the loss of 3 more blockade runners (2TKs and 1AKs) near Karachi due to the Hordes of jap subs infesting those waters and, above all, two days that saw the final end of Chengtu. Rge city, after an heroic resistance lasted more than 2 months, finally gave up the fight...troops are pushed out of the perimeter with unbelievable losses...
Chungking remanins the last chinese city held by the allies...

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Ground combat at Chengtu (75,41)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 101733 troops, 1361 guns, 367 vehicles, Assault Value = 2610

Defending force 43632 troops, 651 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 624

Japanese adjusted assault: 1910

Allied adjusted defense: 637

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Chengtu !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
     1892 casualties reported
        Squads: 7 destroyed, 62 disabled
        Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 114 disabled
        Engineers: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled


Allied ground losses:
     17480 casualties reported
        Squads: 767 destroyed, 1 disabled
        Non Combat: 941 destroyed, 1 disabled
        Engineers: 169 destroyed, 1 disabled
     Guns lost 80 (77 destroyed, 3 disabled)
     Units retreated 21


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
   32nd Division
   41st Division
   19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
   15th Division
   104th/A Division
   7th Ind.Mixed Brigade
   61st Infantry Brigade
   17th Division
   13th Ind.Mixed Brigade
   104th/B Division
   37th Division
   39th/A Division
   34th Division
   3rd Division
   39th/B Division
   1st Ind.Mixed Brigade
   39th/C Division
   51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
   6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
   Mongol Garrison Army
   1st Army
   52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
   21st Mortar Battalion
   13th Army
   4th Mortar Battalion
   15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
   China Expeditionary Army
   2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
   11th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
   41st Chinese Corps
   90th Chinese Corps
   92nd Chinese Corps
   55th Chinese Corps
   95th Chinese Corps
   24th Chinese Corps
   34th Chinese Corps
   47th Chinese Corps
   52nd Chinese Corps
   38th Chinese Corps
   71st Chinese Corps
   36th Chinese Corps
   3rd Chinese Corps
   96th Chinese Corps
   3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
   3rd Chinese Base Force
   4th Group Army
   35th Group Army
   4th War Area
   Red Chinese Army
   7th Chinese Base Force


Lost contact with the KB since the beginning of the Scoodra siege...[&:]

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RE: The fall of Scoodra

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One thing is disturbing me...since his advance from the Calcutta area he completely stopped using his Betties/Nells bombers in India or China....it's been a month now since the last time i saw one of them....if they've been transfered back to the pacific i may be in deep trouble...[&:]
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RE: The fall of Scoodra

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Ok a brief review of the situation in India.

Between Karachi, Hydebaran (S) and Jodpur i've managed to collect 450.000 supplies and some 230.000 fuel. Not bad i'd say. The sacrifice of all those blockade runners (i've lost nearly 50 AKs and 10 TKs in the last months resuppling Karachi) was worth the result.

Edit to say that we have more 100.000 supplies in Bombay with 130.000 fuel...should be enough to hold for a while there...Bombay is getting sieged in these days. Lots of units closing in...
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RE: The fall of Scoodra

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Have you considered shipping the fuel on AKs instead of TKs? TKs tend to be valuable imo.
Do you have fighters that can be sent to the islands you intend to capture?
The fact that KB is "missing" can mean alot of things ofc but the most likely seems;
-refueling
-relocating to cover the channel from Aden or Cape Town
-he has gotten intel of your units prepping for the Pacific.

Does intel tell you anything useful about the islands you are targeting?

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RE: The fall of Scoodra

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Have you considered shipping the fuel on AKs instead of TKs? TKs tend to be valuable imo.
Do you have fighters that can be sent to the islands you intend to capture?
The fact that KB is "missing" can mean alot of things ofc but the most likely seems;
-refueling
-relocating to cover the channel from Aden or Cape Town
-he has gotten intel of your units prepping for the Pacific.

Does intel tell you anything useful about the islands you are targeting?

Terje

Japs dont get that kind of intel... Turn 172 in my PBEM and all I get is "radio transmissions/heavy volume radio transmissions at hex XX,YY". [:'(]
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RE: The fall of Scoodra

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Have you considered shipping the fuel on AKs instead of TKs? TKs tend to be valuable imo.
Do you have fighters that can be sent to the islands you intend to capture?
The fact that KB is "missing" can mean alot of things ofc but the most likely seems;
-refueling
-relocating to cover the channel from Aden or Cape Town
-he has gotten intel of your units prepping for the Pacific.

Does intel tell you anything useful about the islands you are targeting?

Terje

Hi mate.

Yes, the TKs i lost yesterday were the last ones of an old tankers convoy sent one month ago. When the KB arrived i divided the big TF into smaller TFs and sent them back to Adebadan every 2/3 days in order to avoid detection. Now i'm not using them anymore!

If the KB is coming back to the pacific...my guess is that India can be saved. Without the KB parked in front of Karachi i can hope to keep the Aden Channell open (even with some losses on my side). The air force at Karachi is strong enough to prevent the stationing of any SCTF without air cover there and subs can be nasty but the cannot stop the flow of reinforcements. If he crosses the LOD he will need the whole combined fleet to stop the reinforcements coming from Aden!

I checked the intel reports...haven't got a single report about the Marshalls/Gilberts. If he has gotten some intel about my movements...he has two choices: redirect some of his assets to the pacific, thus reducing his chances of taking India, or hope to rely only on his naval and air forces. I'm pretty sure all those betties taken from the Indian front have been redirected to the pacific...i just hope my CVs will provide enough coverage.

I have many squadrons of fighters and dive bombers ready to be transfered on the captured islands as soon as an AF will be built (all those islands, as i said, haven't been built yet by the japs).

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RE: The fall of Scoodra

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Japs dont get that kind of intel... Turn 172 in my PBEM and all I get is "radio transmissions/heavy volume radio transmissions at hex XX,YY". [:'(]

Finger crossed [:'(]
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