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Don't forget that you can pull together the tank brigades in corps next month.  And just for forwarning, the 1942a tank corps OOB is about the size of a 1941b tank division: about 170 tanks, 6000 men. You should not use them 1 vs 1 on panzer divisions.

Ah, I didn't know that. I thought I had to wait until summer or autumn. Well, humm, I guess I will create some Tank Corps. But I have a priority: each army must have one tank brigade. That's a minimum. So I will be creating some Tank Corps, yes, just like the Infantry Corps (NOT a lot). These corps should be used as a Stavka Reserve (and I am only thinking about this 1942 year) and sent to critical places. Defensive duties.
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Strategic changes, dispositions in the South. My First (and only) Guards Army HQ (old 18th Army, Southern Front) is pulled back. Its units are attached to 56th Army, which is attached to Southern Front: 4 armies on this front now. The 46th Army (Stavka Reserve Army brought here to reinforce the blizzard offensive) is definitely attached to the Southern Front as well.

The 4th Shock is as well pulled back. It will stay more or less in this area, ready to support either the Southern or Southwestern Fronts. A Stavka Reserve army that is.

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The First Guards Army has been reformed near Moscow. Initially 5 Guards Rifle Divisions + 1 Tank Brigade are attached. A Stavka Reserve Army that is. It should be used to help to stop the main enemy thrust (summer '42 offensive).

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Another important issue. I must make room for the Volkhov Front [&:] Using tons of APs is out of question... I will move some armies, imitating an accordion movement (I already did that during the summer). The idea is that the armies located in the northern part of their front should be pulled back. One army of the neighbouring northern front should occupy that place... and then, the army which was removed should be placed in the southen part of its front. Complicated, eh? ...

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And there is another problem, caused by a bug [:(] I think I have found a workaround though [:)]

Sooooo...

Since I started the game one of my priorities was assigning minimum 3 RR Brigades to each army. Which was done. Remember: shovels are possibly the best weapon during the Blitzkrieg. Yes, these RR things helped my front-line divisions to build forts faster. Many "helds" were only possible because of them so my hat is off to them.

But then my blizzard offensive started, I recaptured many hexes... and these RR Brigades were detached from these Army HQs and started to repair the damaged captured rail hexes... But the bug thing. They will NOT come back to their Army HQ. They will go to their Front HQ [:(]

Assigning them again to the Army HQs will cost APs (and I need these brigades: 1942 IS still a defensive campaign). Lots of them: 12 per front (4 armies x 3 RR brigades).

So this is what I will be doing. The level support of the Front HQs will set to zero. They should kick everything out to Stavka. Then this HQ should be touring the front and reassign the RR Brigades to the Armies HQs. But of course, I should wait until every damaged rail hex is repaired... or they will be detached again to repair them! [:@] And the nightmare starts again [:D]
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Your position looks good TD if you are able to blunt his attacks during the summer you should be well positioned for a winter offensive & who knows maybe Berlin by Christmas 44.
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This is how I will be more or less doing this bloody and messy "accordion move".

Manstein, Christmas '44? [X(] Where shall I sign? [:D]

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What you can do is to order up some construction units for the Front HQs themselves; once they ( the HQs ) have enough they won't be stealing them from the Army HQs.
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[center]Turn 39[/center]
[center]12 march 1942[/center]

You guys scared me (76mm and cpt flam). I was expecting 2ndACR's terrible revenge on this snow turns... but hey, nothing happened. Soooo, I suspect the beating was really hard. Obviously my fault

In fact, to my surprise I found some ants next to my units (I was only thinking about defending, NOT attacking) and then somehow... I decided I could trash them. It worked. Some Panzer divisions were attacked and forced to retreat! [:)]

And I have taken another decision. Yes, about the "accordion movement". Last time I decided to do such massive movement (during summer) I gave up... I soon realized the idea was quite -if not totally- irrational. Because I should be moving basically ALL the Red Army, from the Lake Ilmen to the Black Sea. It does not make any sense. I will spend APs. I haven't calculated it yet, but I think each army could cover 3 or 4 hexes maximum, which is quite good. With that frontage the front-line armies could easily defend in depth (not all the rifle divisions would be next to enemy units, that is).

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I've got SW Front between Western and Bryansk in my game v Kamil due to the rather unusual position I found myself in.

Rather than waste AP's, I'm going to rename Voroshilovograd "Bryansk" so it doesn't look too bad!
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Encircled, I can't help it. I am an organization freak [:)]

Anyway, I finally got a NEW Air Base!! On these last turns I had disbanded some air bases. Those on the map got 6 units minimum each, as per cpt flam's suggestion [&o] And this turn... BINGO! The 6 ShaD Air Base (for tactical bombers if I remember correctly) is here!

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TD...look at the supply needed/supply to see how many air units to leave per base...
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Ouch! This turn is overwhelming [&:] I haven't done anything yet, I still have my best "man" planning an alternative...

If I want to have a balanced front, I have discovered that:

1) every Front must have 4 armies attached
2) the frontage of every army should be exactly of 4 hexes

Once the Voronezh Front will be here the frontage of many armies could perhaps be reduced to only 3 hexes. But now I can't afford this. That or my maths are totally uncorrect. Remember that I will NEVER overload any army. Stavka and Front HQs, it's inevitable, I guess.

Right now the Southwestern Front is covering a long front: like 150%. It is very stretched aka this front is necessarily weak. Unless I do something, of course.

Soooo. All the front-line Armies will be almost full: 23:24.
1 Tank Brigade
11 Rifle Divisions
= 23 command points

In theory, and that's only a start, the 4 front-line hexes of every army would get 2-units stacks. This leaves 3 Rifle divisions which will be behind. One of these three divisions (the most experienced) will be on reserve mode, like the tank brigade.

Given that I will rely on depth, I will possibly pull back more divisions from these front-line hexes and put them behind as well. But that will be during the summer.

If you think there is a best option, I am all ears [:)]
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ORIGINAL: Marquo

TD...look at the supply needed/supply to see how many air units to leave per base...

Hey, the truth is I haven't paid attention to this yet [:)] Thank you.

Anyway, as I said, now I want the new air bases, simply because until I get rid of all the SAD bases, they will be randomly disbanded, and with them my tactical bombers: Il-2s (and therefore x front is losing tactical bombers for x turns). I want airbases that will be staying. Yes or yes [8D] So I will keep having this "6 units" thing until they are all gone.

They won't be missed [:D]

EDIT: I said the planes were disbanded as well. They are not. They are sent to the National Reserve.
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A couple of things to take into consideration for planning:

4/42: you get a bump to all armies and front capacities: (army goes from 24 to 27 and front goes from 72 to 81).

Remember that when you form infantry corps, 3 infantry divisions (6 points) OR 2 infantry divisions and 1 brigade (5 points) becomes a infantry corps (4 points).
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ORIGINAL: Klydon

A couple of things to take into consideration for planning:

4/42: you get a bump to all armies and front capacities: (army goes from 24 to 27 and front goes from 72 to 81).

Remember that when you form infantry corps, 3 infantry divisions (6 points) OR 2 infantry divisions and 1 brigade (5 points) becomes a infantry corps (4 points).

And I have found a rather powerful defensive/offensive carpet to be

1. Army four hex front
Front line four inf corps in first rank
Support line two inf corps in "Reserve" in second rank with three tank brigades (for greater depth put tank brigades in two line with gaps and the Reserve infantry corps behind them

2.THREE armies per Front

3. One "Filler" STAVKA army (if needed) with 27 points of NON-CORPS units between each Front (in some cases the Filler army may form a third line behind Front)

4. One-two "Builder" STAVKA armies in checkerboard behind front building forts

Until there are sufficient infantry corps, use inf div stacks- two high or three high depending upon need for frontline versus support line strength

This structure allows an Army depth of up to four hexes for flexible defense or a four corps, two brigade attack on a two hex front (while maintaining two corps as flank protection). The tank brigades also are excellent for exploiting counter-attacks on the flanks of breakthroughs. The "Builder" army behint the Front armies can also add another four-six hexes of checkerboard divisions to the defensive depth. Note that this structure does NOT overload either a Front or Army

Just a thought although it is usually 43 before this can be implemented across the entire front
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Ok... what I said! Overwhelming! [X(] I hope I won't need to do that again! Still, this was necessary, in my opinion. Stay organized, avoid chaos!

I ran out of APs though. I had 233, now I have around 50 left. I only could organize (from north to south) the Leningrad, Volkhov, Northwest, Kalinin and Western Fronts.

My maths were somewhat incorrect. And these are GOOD news [:)] I can have frontages of THREE hexes per army (instead of four). The thing is, two fronts only have 3 armies each (Volkhov and Northwest). If I attach a 4th army then I can have this 3 hexes frontage. I'll be doing that on the next future (before the summer, and that's a maximum).

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Klydon and Pompack, thanks for the tips [:)]

On this 1942 year Infantry Corps are not my priority. I might be of course wrong but as I see it, I should be struggling to survive. Other AARs have clearly proved the Germans can create a big mess during 1942 (as it should be). Therefore I must be prudent. To me it's still 1941. I am much more strong and organized, yes, but still...

The Infantry Corps are basically a powerful offensive weapon. I will need them in 1943, I should have the initiative by then (in theory). Now I need lots of defenders. Tons of rifle divisions that can be massed in critical places, and in depth. If I form a lot of corps I will run out of these hordes. To me this is an unnecessary risk to take. NOW if I more or less survive the summer offensive (if there is one), I would start forming these corps in autumn, that's for sure [:)]
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I would consider forming some in your reserve Shock armies. It won't take a bunch, but some. Reason is you want some heavy counter punchers if he launches a major breakthrough someplace and you elect to commit reserves. Same for having some tank corps. The tank corps will need time to train up and their ToE will change for the better as time goes along. They should not really be used in combat early, but they are extremely helpful in getting through a Axis encirclement to reopen supply lines.

Of course if you want to get really ugly, build one infantry corps per army and put it on reserve.
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ORIGINAL: Klydon

I would consider forming some in your reserve Shock armies. It won't take a bunch, but some. Reason is you want some heavy counter punchers if he launches a major breakthrough someplace and you elect to commit reserves.

This is exactly what I was thinking [:)] Only one Shock Army is in the front-line (Volkhov Front). The other three will be Stavka Armies Reserves. Units that should help to contain the main fascist push on summer '42. Therefore it makes a lot of sense. There will be few Infantry Corps formed (Stavka Reserves only during the defensive campaign), but for sure the best option is assigning them to these Shock Armies (the bonus thing) because their mission is the same: stop the German Panzers.
Same for having some tank corps. The tank corps will need time to train up and their ToE will change for the better as time goes along. They should not really be used in combat early, but they are extremely helpful in getting through a Axis encirclement to reopen supply lines.

That's something I totally ignored. Excellent advice that I have to remember. So yes, the few Tank Corps should be sent to these critical places (along with the Shock and Guards Armies) and IF the Panzers manage to form huge pockets, they'd be my 7th Cavalry thing [:)]
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