New Heroes of Stalingrad Screens

[markhwalker]

Uh, I'm not sure what this is in reference to, but sure. Okay.

[Josh]

Ken was merely pointing to the fact that there was a hot debate going on whether HoS was going to be finished or not, and the lack of updates and news. And now you *are* giving news and screenies noone bothered to reply anymore [:)] 
So that's kind of funny, kind of...
Anyways, enjoying the screenshots, guess most of us are enjoying it. Commenting on it, hmm, not so much in my case. Allthough I'd say let the Russians speak Russian and the Germans speak German, for authenticity flavor. And let the english translation be written under the textballoon. But that's probably a lot of work, and you would need to find a Russian translator (... hmm, member 76MM is living in Moscow, maybe he would be so kind ... )

[markhwalker]

Oh, I see. The debate always strikes me as funny. Only one person on planet Earth decides if this game will be finished. And I say yes. [:)]

Yeah...Russian and German text might be nice, but probably won't happen. We are striving for authenticity in other ways. Thanks for the comment.

[Arctic Blast]

Well, I've been playing the Hell out of Band of Heroes for the past 2 weeks and really like the system, so I'm definitely looking forward to this. [:)]

[Gunhawk]

ORIGINAL: markhwalker

The debate always strikes me as funny.

I know! Me too! LOL!!

[markhwalker]

Yeah, not so much Archeresque funny. More like irrelevant-to-the-game-production funny. 

[markhwalker]

Well, I've been playing the Hell out of Band of Heroes for the past 2 weeks and really like the system, so I'm definitely looking forward to this.

Great, I'm glad you like it. Some of the scenarios in both LnL: Not One Step Back, and Dark July have been ported to the computer game.

[Gunhawk]

ORIGINAL: markhwalker

Yeah, not so much Archeresque funny. More like irrelevant-to-the-game-production funny. 

(shrug) We don't know anything about the production of the game. All we have to to talk about
is the length of time it's taking to be published, and that's actually pretty funny when you think
about it. I can see the discussion in this forum 10 years from now:

"it'll be published. All we have to do is be patient. Mark say's that he hopes
to have it published this year"

"uh huh. He hopes"

"You're always *screaming* that you want the game for yourself *right away*!!!

"It's been sixteen freakin' years. How can I want it *right away*???!!"

"You're selfish and you don't anything about the problems involved with
the production of the game. What if the whole staff is stampeded by a herd
of cattle. What then huh? What if Mark gets hit in the head by a comet? Huh?
There are lots of things that can delay a game. Wise guy!"

"ummmm...does mean that I don't get to ask my annual question "What year is the game
going to be published?""

"You're a cry baby because you keep asking the same question over and over again"

"I see. You have a *better* question?"

"I have a friend who knows a guy that eats lunch with a guy who's third cousin
is a beta tester and *he* says the game is coming along nicely". So who are
*you* to question *anything*!!

"Just a guy who's been waiting sixteen years for a game".

"That doesn't matter. You're a Communist, your feet stink and you don't love Jesus"

"OK. Catch you later.

[Birdmon]

ORIGINAL: Gunhawk

ORIGINAL: markhwalker

Yeah, not so much Archeresque funny. More like irrelevant-to-the-game-production funny. 

(shrug) We don't know anything about the production of the game. All we have to to talk about
is the length of time it's taking to be published, and that's actually pretty funny when you think
about it. I can see the discussion in this forum 10 years from now:

"it'll be published. All we have to do is be patient. Mark say's that he hopes
to have it published this year"

"uh huh. He hopes"

"You're always *screaming* that you want the game for yourself *right away*!!!

"It's been sixteen freakin' years. How can I want it *right away*???!!"

"You're selfish and you don't anything about the problems involved with
the production of the game. What if the whole staff is stampeded by a herd
of cattle. What then huh? What if Mark gets hit in the head by a comet? Huh?
There are lots of things that can delay a game. Wise guy!"

"ummmm...does mean that I don't get to ask my annual question "What year is the game
going to be published?""

"You're a cry baby because you keep asking the same question over and over again"

"I see. You have a *better* question?"

"I have a friend who knows a guy that eats lunch with a guy who's third cousin
is a beta tester and *he* says the game is coming along nicely". So who are
*you* to question *anything*!!

"Just a guy who's been waiting sixteen years for a game".

"That doesn't matter. You're a Communist, your feet stink and you don't love Jesus"

"OK. Catch you later.

WOW, I was thinking the same thing....

[helm123456789]

ORIGINAL: Gunhawk

>>A developer not giving out all the information the customer would like as well as the customer that always screaming when is it going to be ready for me.<<

I resent that. All of my points have been presented logically and reasonably and in one case satirically, but there was never any "screaming" involved. Asking when a game is going to be published is typical for any game in any forum. The longer it takes for a game to be releaed, the more times the question will be asked. That's just the math of it. I've never asked when the game is going to be ready for *me*. I've only asked what *year* it was going to be released. It looks like the only way that some of you guys can debate the situation is to exaggerate, misrepresent or misquote what I say and then try to patronize me for it, and that's pretty lame.

>>A deve

Relax...What I said wasn't directed at You or any single person. It's a general statement of what you can read on almost any forum related to an upcoming title. You're getting a little defensive about what your reading here.

[Gunhawk]

ORIGINAL: helm123456789

ORIGINAL: Gunhawk

>>A developer not giving out all the information the customer would like as well as the customer that always screaming when is it going to be ready for me.<<

I resent that. All of my points have been presented logically and reasonably and in one case satirically, but there was never any "screaming" involved. Asking when a game is going to be published is typical for any game in any forum. The longer it takes for a game to be releaed, the more times the question will be asked. That's just the math of it. I've never asked when the game is going to be ready for *me*. I've only asked what *year* it was going to be released. It looks like the only way that some of you guys can debate the situation is to exaggerate, misrepresent or misquote what I say and then try to patronize me for it, and that's pretty lame.

>>A deve

Relax...What I said wasn't directed at You or any single person. It's a general statement of what you can read on almost any forum related to an upcoming title. You're getting a little defensive about what your reading here.

Sorry. That ain't gonna fly. Saying that it was a "general statement" to weasle out of your comment is pretty cheesy too.

OK. *Now* i'm relaxed. (-:

[markhwalker]

In night combat a filter is placed over the grid. You can see that below. Unless a unit fires or is under a flare, you can't see it at greater than two hexes. Getting that correct is proving to be slightly problematic right now.

[helm123456789]

ORIGINAL: Gunhawk

ORIGINAL: helm123456789

ORIGINAL: Gunhawk

>>A developer not giving out all the information the customer would like as well as the customer that always screaming when is it going to be ready for me.<<

I resent that. All of my points have been presented logically and reasonably and in one case satirically, but there was never any "screaming" involved. Asking when a game is going to be published is typical for any game in any forum. The longer it takes for a game to be releaed, the more times the question will be asked. That's just the math of it. I've never asked when the game is going to be ready for *me*. I've only asked what *year* it was going to be released. It looks like the only way that some of you guys can debate the situation is to exaggerate, misrepresent or misquote what I say and then try to patronize me for it, and that's pretty lame.

>>A deve

Relax...What I said wasn't directed at You or any single person. It's a general statement of what you can read on almost any forum related to an upcoming title. You're getting a little defensive about what your reading here.

Sorry. That ain't gonna fly. Saying that it was a "general statement" to weasle out of your comment is pretty cheesy too.

OK. *Now* i'm relaxed. (-:

Your reading this post and seeing everything directed at you and taking them as personal attacks. It wasn't directed at you personally, but I figure no amount of telling you so will change your mind. You cherry picked one sentence in there and figured some way it's about you. It must be terrible to be as angry and defensive as you seem to be in this post. I figure it's just best we go ahead and no longer discuss this since you seem completely and utterly consumed with the thought that the post was directed at you. I don't know you personally and believe me if I was (which I don't do) personally targeting you with my post I wouldn't try to weasel out of a thing. But congrats you joined ravinhood as the only blocked people on my list.

[Ericw43]

I am interested in this title. Unfortunately, I read through the messages made and I read alot of anger and discontempt. Being that this program that is being made should be something that is fun, I find it perturbing that the comments are anything but that.
Please have fun:)

[helm123456789]

Ericw43, don't pay to much attention to the chatting back and forth in this thread. Most important thing in this post is the screens that Mark has shared with us.

In other words don't let us crazies (me include) chase you off. We're just killing time with each other here.

[undercovergeek]

its just bored, annoyed people arguing with each other til the game comes out - honestly

take some salt, pinch it - there you go

[Gunhawk]

ORIGINAL: undercovergeek

its just bored, annoyed people arguing with each other til the game comes out

The Undercovergeek speaks truth. Being annoyed makes us do things that no sensible person should do. Like arguing with a guy that 's wearing a diaper and carrying a gun. Sheesh. I should be smacked for that. Seriously.

[Ken7]

Im upping my estimate now for release to 20% . That's double what I thought to begin with. Jus thought Id toss in my Canadian 2 cents worth. [:)]

[Keunert]

i guess to get the game this far, tons of hours had to be invested. why do you expect they will quit it? looks like it's a second priority behind the boardgame production.
this is a rather unique pc wargame design, there aren't very similiar games that come to my mind. so i think there are no reasons not to release this from this perspective.

my best wishes to mr walker and his team

[parusski]

Ericw43 it's best to ignore the ranting posts.

Mark, the screens look great. I am a patient man, but I do hope you get the game to me before I die.