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RE: The Battle Of India
Don't know Nemo...the more i think of it the more i consider the hypotesis of digging in Karachi...Luckly i still have time to decide. we're now close to forts level 8...
RE: The Battle Of India
Operations will slow down in the upcoming week. Now that Rader has got back home it's time for me to leave for a brief vacation. I should be able to do one turn a day with my lap-top but, with G.F. around 24/hrs a day will be tough to dedicate enough time to the game and to the AAR...[:o] (she doesn't understand nor like games...especially THIS game...)
I'll be back fully operational on Sunday
bye guys
I'll be back fully operational on Sunday
bye guys
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RE: The Battle Of India
Neither does mine and I've been married to her for 23 years[:D](she doesn't understand nor like games...especially THIS game...)
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RE: The Battle Of India
I hope GreyJoy's girlfriend realizes she has interrupted this fascinating AAR about Japan rampaging across half the world and possibly preparing to cross the LOD. He better get back home and resume the game soon.
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If GreyJoy mentions that quip/fact to his girlfriend he's likely to cross a LOD that's a bit closer to home...........
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I hope GreyJoy's girlfriend realizes she has interrupted this fascinating AAR about Japan rampaging across half the world and possibly preparing to cross the LOD. He better get back home and resume the game soon.
Maybe he's having nore fun, umm, rampaging with her?
The Moose
RE: The Battle Of India
Hi all,
we're back on track. I wasn't able to do any turn cause, as predicted, GF v. 1.01 (patched) didn't allow me so... we've been sailing in the Med for 4 days and we found some bad weather (wind at more than 40 knots) so it was not exactly the perfect environment to play witp
...so it's not 100% her fault[:D]
Ok, now i got a wedding party and tonight i'll do the turn...i can however anticipate you that the Battle of India has begun again...with bloody air battles over Karachi...stay tuned[8D]
RE: The Battle Of India
July 15-16 1942
Ok guys, here it is. I think it's over in India.
First of all, the A6M3a arrived for the japs and they started to sweep at 25k... i thought our rule was still with max CAP at 20k so i never put my fighters at any higher than 20k...useless to say my fighters got butchered. In just one day (on the 15th there was a bad weather that prevented Japan to fly) we lost 100 planes against his 90 in A2A combat...was a massacre....his units were rested...and he always outnumbered me in the air despite i still had 530 operative fighters...look at the numbers and you'll understand...he sent more than 650 fighters on sweep mission!!! [X(]...and at least 200 of them were flying at 25k...so Dive Dive Dive Dive [:o].
Obviously Luck didn't give me any help cause SS Pickerel managed to put a fish into a jap CV but the torp didn't explode[:(]...
The only good news of the day was a rad made by B17s at Cowdpore that destroyed 110 japanese bombers on the ground for not a single loss on my side...
July 17-18 1942
The weather was good and the massacre reached never seen proportions...200 fighter lost on my side against only 180 of his...now the KB positioned herself in a good position and fired 200 zeros on sweep...so we faced today nearly 900 fighters on sweep...and for the first time the operational losses were in his favour despite the distances covered by his planes...it's really over...with this pace i'll be without any air cover within a week[:o]
Rader is a very educated and sporty opponent. He apologised for having misunderstood our HR and asked me if i wanted to redo the turn with all the planes at 20k...i thanked him and said that it's ok to start with this new rule (max alt= second best mnvr altitude)...I hate the idea of a re-do. Shit happens in war so i take this as an accident of war.
However now i have only 30 fighters (15 P-38s and 15 Hurri mkIIc) that can go higher than 20k...the end is really near.
Will start to send some brit squadrons back now...useless to keep squadrons with 5 planes and no replacements (my hurricanes pool has gone dry[:(]).
We had a intel message saying that the 3rd Tank rgt was at 44-19...that means just one hex south of the LOD...i decided to pay a visit to that hex even if we didn't have any direct recon on it...the intel was good and we found a tank army composed of 10 tank units...without any air cover his tanks were badly mauled by wellingtons and b-17s...nothing that can change the war but a little marginal victory on my side[;)]
Now the KB is parked 9 hexes west of Karachi, along with a strong BB TF...i really think this means the end of my hopes in India...i cannot hope to break the blockade once the LOD is crossed cause without any air cover Karachi will not be able to deny its air space to his KB or his betties...oh well, nothing much to say. We'll keep on fighting till the end and we won't give up! He's gonna take Karachi...ok...but he will have to pay for every inch of ground gained!
Ok guys, here it is. I think it's over in India.
First of all, the A6M3a arrived for the japs and they started to sweep at 25k... i thought our rule was still with max CAP at 20k so i never put my fighters at any higher than 20k...useless to say my fighters got butchered. In just one day (on the 15th there was a bad weather that prevented Japan to fly) we lost 100 planes against his 90 in A2A combat...was a massacre....his units were rested...and he always outnumbered me in the air despite i still had 530 operative fighters...look at the numbers and you'll understand...he sent more than 650 fighters on sweep mission!!! [X(]...and at least 200 of them were flying at 25k...so Dive Dive Dive Dive [:o].
Obviously Luck didn't give me any help cause SS Pickerel managed to put a fish into a jap CV but the torp didn't explode[:(]...
The only good news of the day was a rad made by B17s at Cowdpore that destroyed 110 japanese bombers on the ground for not a single loss on my side...
July 17-18 1942
The weather was good and the massacre reached never seen proportions...200 fighter lost on my side against only 180 of his...now the KB positioned herself in a good position and fired 200 zeros on sweep...so we faced today nearly 900 fighters on sweep...and for the first time the operational losses were in his favour despite the distances covered by his planes...it's really over...with this pace i'll be without any air cover within a week[:o]
Rader is a very educated and sporty opponent. He apologised for having misunderstood our HR and asked me if i wanted to redo the turn with all the planes at 20k...i thanked him and said that it's ok to start with this new rule (max alt= second best mnvr altitude)...I hate the idea of a re-do. Shit happens in war so i take this as an accident of war.
However now i have only 30 fighters (15 P-38s and 15 Hurri mkIIc) that can go higher than 20k...the end is really near.
Will start to send some brit squadrons back now...useless to keep squadrons with 5 planes and no replacements (my hurricanes pool has gone dry[:(]).
We had a intel message saying that the 3rd Tank rgt was at 44-19...that means just one hex south of the LOD...i decided to pay a visit to that hex even if we didn't have any direct recon on it...the intel was good and we found a tank army composed of 10 tank units...without any air cover his tanks were badly mauled by wellingtons and b-17s...nothing that can change the war but a little marginal victory on my side[;)]
Now the KB is parked 9 hexes west of Karachi, along with a strong BB TF...i really think this means the end of my hopes in India...i cannot hope to break the blockade once the LOD is crossed cause without any air cover Karachi will not be able to deny its air space to his KB or his betties...oh well, nothing much to say. We'll keep on fighting till the end and we won't give up! He's gonna take Karachi...ok...but he will have to pay for every inch of ground gained!
RE: The Battle Of India
You should take the redo. This misunderstanding on the first two days of the offensive has allowed him to break your back. It'll still happen but you are very foolish if you don't force a redo.
I think it strange this happened at the start of a large aerial offensive. Planes don't set themselves to 25,000 feet.
I think it strange this happened at the start of a large aerial offensive. Planes don't set themselves to 25,000 feet.
John Dillworth: "I had GreyJoy check my spelling and he said it was fine."
Well, that's that settled then.
Well, that's that settled then.
RE: The Battle Of India
ORIGINAL: Nemo121
You should take the redo. This misunderstanding on the first two days of the offensive has allowed him to break your back. It'll still happen but you are very foolish if you don't force a redo.
I think it strange this happened at the start of a large aerial offensive. Planes don't set themselves to 25,000 feet.
+1
Surface combat TF fanboy
RE: The Battle Of India
I see your point but i think it would not be a gentleman behaviour of me if i asked for a re-do now that i've seen the results (bad).
I went back and read again our e-mails and i have to say that the misunderstanding was more than possible. When, like 2 months ago, someone here in this AAR suggested me to ask for a change on the HR rule that limits the alt at 20k i talked about that with Rader and then we simply dropped the conversation about that without taking a real decision...so i thought everything remained with the old HR, while Rader has thought we changed it to the "second mnvr alt"...that's why he waited so much to start the offensive because he wanted to fill his zero units with the A6M3a that could go higher than 20k... So planes don't set themselfs to 25k. Rader simply thought that new rule was operating while i was not aware of that.
However Nemo the second 2 days i set my P-38s and my Hurri IIc to 31k and things didn't really changed so i don't think that was a game breaker. In fact if i had agreed with that rule since the beginnning i don't think results would have been much different.
Unfortunately, as you have clearly predicted some time ago, plain numbers ara making the difference here. He simply has too much to throw at me and what is really killing me is the different replacements ratio. With his ability of outproduce me 10 to 1 in terms of airframes nothing really does matter at this point. My pools are getting dry fast and all my attempts to scrape the bottom of the barrell, stopping taking replacements of any other units around the map doesn't really change the fact that i cannot sustain the loss of 300 airframes in 4 days. Plain and simple. I went back reading Rader's AAR "taming the bear" and it was clear that Japan, even against Soviet Union, can sustain an incredible amount of losses without losing its mighty power.
That's a fact that i cannot change. Not anymore. I should have done differently in the past probably but now that's what i have and what i have to live with.
I'll do my best to make this nut the hardest possible to be cracked for Rader but i think there's no doubt that, in the end, Rader will be able to break my defences.
The Kind is Dead, Long Live the King! [:)]
I went back and read again our e-mails and i have to say that the misunderstanding was more than possible. When, like 2 months ago, someone here in this AAR suggested me to ask for a change on the HR rule that limits the alt at 20k i talked about that with Rader and then we simply dropped the conversation about that without taking a real decision...so i thought everything remained with the old HR, while Rader has thought we changed it to the "second mnvr alt"...that's why he waited so much to start the offensive because he wanted to fill his zero units with the A6M3a that could go higher than 20k... So planes don't set themselfs to 25k. Rader simply thought that new rule was operating while i was not aware of that.
However Nemo the second 2 days i set my P-38s and my Hurri IIc to 31k and things didn't really changed so i don't think that was a game breaker. In fact if i had agreed with that rule since the beginnning i don't think results would have been much different.
Unfortunately, as you have clearly predicted some time ago, plain numbers ara making the difference here. He simply has too much to throw at me and what is really killing me is the different replacements ratio. With his ability of outproduce me 10 to 1 in terms of airframes nothing really does matter at this point. My pools are getting dry fast and all my attempts to scrape the bottom of the barrell, stopping taking replacements of any other units around the map doesn't really change the fact that i cannot sustain the loss of 300 airframes in 4 days. Plain and simple. I went back reading Rader's AAR "taming the bear" and it was clear that Japan, even against Soviet Union, can sustain an incredible amount of losses without losing its mighty power.
That's a fact that i cannot change. Not anymore. I should have done differently in the past probably but now that's what i have and what i have to live with.
I'll do my best to make this nut the hardest possible to be cracked for Rader but i think there's no doubt that, in the end, Rader will be able to break my defences.
The Kind is Dead, Long Live the King! [:)]
RE: The Battle Of India
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RE: The Battle Of India
Ungentlemanly to ask for a redo now that you've seen the result?
Seriously, you need to be clearer about your House Rules and you need to ask for a redo so that you were BOTH operating under the same understanding... Let him fly at 25,000 feet and you just up your altitude accordingly.
As to it not making a difference.... That is a reflection on your understanding of the A2A combat model. B339s and Hurris can easily take down Zeroes when using the right altitude bands and an appropriate mix of high altitude fighters to take advantage of the low bait. Again though, if you are interested in ploughing ahead with your own ideas instead of good advice then so be it.
Seriously, you need to be clearer about your House Rules and you need to ask for a redo so that you were BOTH operating under the same understanding... Let him fly at 25,000 feet and you just up your altitude accordingly.
As to it not making a difference.... That is a reflection on your understanding of the A2A combat model. B339s and Hurris can easily take down Zeroes when using the right altitude bands and an appropriate mix of high altitude fighters to take advantage of the low bait. Again though, if you are interested in ploughing ahead with your own ideas instead of good advice then so be it.
John Dillworth: "I had GreyJoy check my spelling and he said it was fine."
Well, that's that settled then.
Well, that's that settled then.
RE: The Battle Of India
Excuse me Nemo but the suggestion to ask for a redo it's not an in-game suggestion that i do avoid to listen. We're now talking about "relations" between players and it's a completely different subject.
I'd be gratefull if you were more precise about the right different altitudes.
Now i've changed my "alt bands" in the following way:
P-39s (2 groups of 25 each): at 9k
Kittihawks, Buffalos and Mohawks: at 15k
P-40s: between 15k and 20k
Hurricanes Ia,IIb: at 20k
Hurricanes IIc and P-38s: at 31k
Is that right? I watched all those combat replays and it seems that his sweeping planes do not lose alt when diving on my planes...while my fighters always struggle to climb up to 25k resulting in a constant "dive process" of the zeros.
Is there anything you guys suggest me to get some better results in A2A combat?
Fatigue is well below 20 and morale is everywhere above 60...luckly their spirit is higher than mine[:)]
I'd be gratefull if you were more precise about the right different altitudes.
Now i've changed my "alt bands" in the following way:
P-39s (2 groups of 25 each): at 9k
Kittihawks, Buffalos and Mohawks: at 15k
P-40s: between 15k and 20k
Hurricanes Ia,IIb: at 20k
Hurricanes IIc and P-38s: at 31k
Is that right? I watched all those combat replays and it seems that his sweeping planes do not lose alt when diving on my planes...while my fighters always struggle to climb up to 25k resulting in a constant "dive process" of the zeros.
Is there anything you guys suggest me to get some better results in A2A combat?
Fatigue is well below 20 and morale is everywhere above 60...luckly their spirit is higher than mine[:)]
RE: The Battle Of India
Ok, orders were given. We lowered the "rest" to 10% in order to reach a decent number of planes in the air for tomorrow fightings (we now have 350 fighters instead of the 530 of 4 days ago[:(])...
We also decided not to attack again his tanks at 44,19 cause i fear a strong LRCAP over there now. We'll try to ambush him at Indore...i hope Rader will move some planes there in order to LRCAP his tanks on the LOD and considering Cowpore isn't active anymore Indore remains the third most important japanese airfield in India (Being Surat and Baghawhatever the first twos). I hope at Indore the flak will be less powerfull...
finger crossed
We also decided not to attack again his tanks at 44,19 cause i fear a strong LRCAP over there now. We'll try to ambush him at Indore...i hope Rader will move some planes there in order to LRCAP his tanks on the LOD and considering Cowpore isn't active anymore Indore remains the third most important japanese airfield in India (Being Surat and Baghawhatever the first twos). I hope at Indore the flak will be less powerfull...
finger crossed
RE: The Battle Of India
Don't forget, he still has to conquer Karachi and you have a lot of AV there. Once he crosses the LOD you add the Waziristan Div for another 300AV.
Supplies at Karachi may be the biggest problem long term. Have you drawn everything there already?
Do you have any activity planned in the South Pac that Rader will care about? I doubt it. And even if you do he gets to use the Netty defence.
So how about bringing the cavalry to take back Diego Garcia? It's quite a hike, but 30-40 days or so from now (?)an amphib convoy lands there from the worm hole, with the CV's one hex behind. If you bring the kitchen sink you'll quickly have a great airbase, minefields etc.60,000 troops, 5 Port and 6 airbase potential. Now Rader has to cover two mice with his KB cat. If you can combine a timely relief convoy for Karachi it makes his blockade much more difficult.
It's time for your Winston Churchill speech to India. Great AAR by the way.
Supplies at Karachi may be the biggest problem long term. Have you drawn everything there already?
Do you have any activity planned in the South Pac that Rader will care about? I doubt it. And even if you do he gets to use the Netty defence.
So how about bringing the cavalry to take back Diego Garcia? It's quite a hike, but 30-40 days or so from now (?)an amphib convoy lands there from the worm hole, with the CV's one hex behind. If you bring the kitchen sink you'll quickly have a great airbase, minefields etc.60,000 troops, 5 Port and 6 airbase potential. Now Rader has to cover two mice with his KB cat. If you can combine a timely relief convoy for Karachi it makes his blockade much more difficult.
It's time for your Winston Churchill speech to India. Great AAR by the way.
Derek
RE: The Battle Of India
ORIGINAL: dekwik
Don't forget, he still has to conquer Karachi and you have a lot of AV there. Once he crosses the LOD you add the Waziristan Div for another 300AV.
Supplies at Karachi may be the biggest problem long term. Have you drawn everything there already?
Do you have any activity planned in the South Pac that Rader will care about? I doubt it. And even if you do he gets to use the Netty defence.
So how about bringing the cavalry to take back Diego Garcia? It's quite a hike, but 30-40 days or so from now (?)an amphib convoy lands there from the worm hole, with the CV's one hex behind. If you bring the kitchen sink you'll quickly have a great airbase, minefields etc.60,000 troops, 5 Port and 6 airbase potential. Now Rader has to cover two mice with his KB cat. If you can combine a timely relief convoy for Karachi it makes his blockade much more difficult.
It's time for your Winston Churchill speech to India. Great AAR by the way.
Thx for the kind words Dekwik.
I still have nearly 6000 AVs prepped for Karachi and about 470,000 supplies there with forts level 8. It will however be a real big nut to chew for Rader, that's for sure. The delay allowed me to grow a lot in terms of strenght and supplies so maybe that was probably the only mistake Rader has done so far. if he had gone for the jugular immediately Karachi probably would already be in his hands.
Diego Garcia....don't think i'm not thinking every day about a way to save India. Scodra would be very important too...possibly even strategically more important...however he left several good units there (Intel told me) and the presence of Netties and zeros, along with the KB really scares me out.
I can easily see my CVs being worn out by his LBA zeros and betties, while, a couple of turns later, comes the KB and blows up everything...
I still have everything prepped for the Bonins. Troops are ready at PH and Christmas Island. I'm waiting for some more fuel to come in (have consumed a HUGE amount of fuel during the aborted Gilberts operation).
I have already changed plans too many times and dont wanna waste those prep points for Iwo...
I'll now wait for my CVs to upgrade at PH (still few days away) and then i'll be ready
Now that the KB is far away i wanna try again. The objective will be double: Bonins (with 2000 AVs) and the Gilberts with 1000 AVs. I still haven't abbandoned the idea of getting to Tarawa and pushing back his southern perimeter, but for sure the Bonins, if conquered, will put a serious problem to Rader cause the presence in the second half of 42 of a strong allied base right in the middle of his comm lines with sopac may vanish his conquest in the far west.
Intel says he's sending lots of forces to Timor and Banda sea area...
RE: The Battle Of India
July 19-20 1942
Seems that despite all my efforts i'm really not up to the task of playing this game decently.
For some unknown and uncomprehensible (sp) reasons all my fighters stood down today, resulting in japanese bombers coming again for Karachi AF (after weeks of resting) and destroying all my fighters on the ground[:o].
I'm pretty sure the mistake was due to the changing CAP/rest process...i must have screwed it all up [:@]
The raid at Indore went poorly. One day my bombers were grounded due to bad weather and the next day we just found a bunch on Nicks on CAP...no gain for some losses on my side for sure.
What is really driving me crazy is the inconsistency of my AA...
Look at this result: he sent 300 bombers over Karachi at 20k and my flak didn't damage a single enemy bomber!!!! I'm not talking about shooting them down...i'm talking about damaging!!!...and at Karachi i have at least 120 3.7MkII...with a cieling superior than 20k... My 4Es get chewed at Surat at 22k and his Sallies can avoid my flak without problems...that's really really weird[:(]
Ok, my morale is very low now...but i only have myself to blame so it's better to slap my face twice and then digging in again!
Seems that despite all my efforts i'm really not up to the task of playing this game decently.
For some unknown and uncomprehensible (sp) reasons all my fighters stood down today, resulting in japanese bombers coming again for Karachi AF (after weeks of resting) and destroying all my fighters on the ground[:o].
I'm pretty sure the mistake was due to the changing CAP/rest process...i must have screwed it all up [:@]
The raid at Indore went poorly. One day my bombers were grounded due to bad weather and the next day we just found a bunch on Nicks on CAP...no gain for some losses on my side for sure.
What is really driving me crazy is the inconsistency of my AA...
Look at this result: he sent 300 bombers over Karachi at 20k and my flak didn't damage a single enemy bomber!!!! I'm not talking about shooting them down...i'm talking about damaging!!!...and at Karachi i have at least 120 3.7MkII...with a cieling superior than 20k... My 4Es get chewed at Surat at 22k and his Sallies can avoid my flak without problems...that's really really weird[:(]
Ok, my morale is very low now...but i only have myself to blame so it's better to slap my face twice and then digging in again!
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RE: The Battle Of India
GreyJoy, your morale swings are totally consistent with what we'd expect for a fairly new player under great pressure. But you don't need to be down on yourself nearly as much as you are:
1) Your air losses have actually be very good for an Allied player in mid 1942 in Scenario Two. There are experienced Allied players that have been looking at your ratios - even those you've bemoaned over the past six days - and said, "Wow, I wish i could get close to 1:1 against Japan!" You've bled rader badly through the air.
2) Rader made a humongous mistake letting you have two months to build and supply at Karachi. I don't know where the KB at the time, but as we've said before, he should have come for Karachi immediately.
3) As a relatively new player, you're probably not seeing the big picture very well. That's really going to hamper you in any operation in the Bonins, Marshals, etc. Even if you succeed in such an operation, you may not know how to make use of it effectively, so that rader just isolates your lodgements and comes back to deal with them later when his ships are available. Taking Iwo Jima and other islands doesn't mean anything if you don't know how to make use of them, your enemy ignores it, and then comes later with overwhelming force to reclaim them.
4) Before you commit to any operation in the Pacific, you need to ask yourself questions about India. Must you have your carriers there to thwart rader from imposing an airtight blockade? It may be too late to be asking yourself this question, but I'd be looking at it from all angles.
1) Your air losses have actually be very good for an Allied player in mid 1942 in Scenario Two. There are experienced Allied players that have been looking at your ratios - even those you've bemoaned over the past six days - and said, "Wow, I wish i could get close to 1:1 against Japan!" You've bled rader badly through the air.
2) Rader made a humongous mistake letting you have two months to build and supply at Karachi. I don't know where the KB at the time, but as we've said before, he should have come for Karachi immediately.
3) As a relatively new player, you're probably not seeing the big picture very well. That's really going to hamper you in any operation in the Bonins, Marshals, etc. Even if you succeed in such an operation, you may not know how to make use of it effectively, so that rader just isolates your lodgements and comes back to deal with them later when his ships are available. Taking Iwo Jima and other islands doesn't mean anything if you don't know how to make use of them, your enemy ignores it, and then comes later with overwhelming force to reclaim them.
4) Before you commit to any operation in the Pacific, you need to ask yourself questions about India. Must you have your carriers there to thwart rader from imposing an airtight blockade? It may be too late to be asking yourself this question, but I'd be looking at it from all angles.
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RE: The Battle Of India
I agree plus you get a lot of force when he crosses the line - an Armoured Div, 5 Inf Divs, Corps HQ, Corps Engr Regt and a special convoy with a full Div set of replacement arty, and equivalent to 4 Bdes worth of Infantry replacements (if it was post the data patch) you also get 72 Hurricanes, 72 Spitfires, 36 Vengeance, 72 Wellingtons and 24 Catalinas.
The Spits are Spit VIII's not Vc's so just make sure you somehow get them in the air with decent pilots and watch his losses increase....
Do not underestimate the CP cost if he donest garrison his LOC in India a lot of the bases he has captured will need a full Div to garrison e.g. Calcutta and Madras both need a Div more or less thats a lot of firepower to tie down in th erear areas
To take Karachi with 500k supply lvl 8 forts and 6,000 AV will require a force of 25+ Divs he simple cannot afford that committment just think it through a single Japanese Div needs about 1,500 supply per month in combat double it so say 3,000 now assume wastage to get to the front and an allowance to repair damaged devices lets say 5,000 supply per month per Div has to arrive that means he needs 100,000 to 150,000 supply per month before taking account of the air force or thefuel he will need and it wont be a quick battle.
So what you need to be doing is sending subs into the bay of bengal to harass his convoys, mining the malacca strait heavily every chance you get, using the RN operating out its secure bases in small TF's of 2 - 3 ships to make him supply from the south coast you need to stretch his logistics tot he limit and keep on hitting it - India is a quagmire for the Japanese in AE hamsting him keep him low on supply and when the timer is reight use those 5+ Divs to land somewhere behind him.
If 6,000 AV cannot hold its not likely 8,000 will so dont commit the forces you are about to get hold them back for your Inchon landing after you have bled him.
Think big how does he get that army back in position if in a years time after he has beld white besieging Karachi you land XXI Indian Corps and I Australian Corps into Sumarte and Georgetown closing the malacca strait at thqat point he is screwed.
He need to finish karacvhi quickly or he is so overextended its game over and he loses
The Spits are Spit VIII's not Vc's so just make sure you somehow get them in the air with decent pilots and watch his losses increase....
Do not underestimate the CP cost if he donest garrison his LOC in India a lot of the bases he has captured will need a full Div to garrison e.g. Calcutta and Madras both need a Div more or less thats a lot of firepower to tie down in th erear areas
To take Karachi with 500k supply lvl 8 forts and 6,000 AV will require a force of 25+ Divs he simple cannot afford that committment just think it through a single Japanese Div needs about 1,500 supply per month in combat double it so say 3,000 now assume wastage to get to the front and an allowance to repair damaged devices lets say 5,000 supply per month per Div has to arrive that means he needs 100,000 to 150,000 supply per month before taking account of the air force or thefuel he will need and it wont be a quick battle.
So what you need to be doing is sending subs into the bay of bengal to harass his convoys, mining the malacca strait heavily every chance you get, using the RN operating out its secure bases in small TF's of 2 - 3 ships to make him supply from the south coast you need to stretch his logistics tot he limit and keep on hitting it - India is a quagmire for the Japanese in AE hamsting him keep him low on supply and when the timer is reight use those 5+ Divs to land somewhere behind him.
If 6,000 AV cannot hold its not likely 8,000 will so dont commit the forces you are about to get hold them back for your Inchon landing after you have bled him.
Think big how does he get that army back in position if in a years time after he has beld white besieging Karachi you land XXI Indian Corps and I Australian Corps into Sumarte and Georgetown closing the malacca strait at thqat point he is screwed.
He need to finish karacvhi quickly or he is so overextended its game over and he loses