Sqz: I think I need to study the map more often. I had no idea Lanchow had 91 Oil! We will have to consider an offensive, probably of the "take Sian and cut the Commies off" variety.
Sulu: I think CF is suffering a bit from "I'm used to playing Japan" syndrome in China. As Japan, you form big armies and stomp the ants. Sometimes it's hard to think like the ant when you're used to playing the elephant. However, look at the map again. I have used some of the smaller NCPC LCUs to form a battle line of sorts protecting conquered territories. Costs me a bit in garrison duty, but prevents infiltration. This is balanced by my phase 2 intentions, which don't require spending a lot of PPs. The plan is to use the PPs to buy out Kwantung LCUs to make up for the assault strength left in the line.
Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
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RE: Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
I understand Cuttlefish's delemma it's not easy making the mental transition when you are so used to playing just one side exclusively.
Food for thought when phase three kicks off assuming Sian goes to plan. Unless Cuttlefish has reinforced the far north (Urumchi and points nearby)the troops up that way don't have AT guns for the most part a little bit of armored say 2 to 3 if you can spare and some small infantry units can go a long way. The bulk of your forces should be focused on the Lanchow area as it's good defensive terrain and he probably has some decent units in and around.
Make sure you cover with recon and a few extra base forces for captured bases for your big push, his units out in the bush will try and harass and get on your supply paths.
Assuming they are some of his better starting AV units s/se of Yenan the longer he waits to move the better off you are. I'm a master of the obvious. [;)]The Japanese players that attack Yenan before Sian are only pushing LCUs to more valuable areas.
Food for thought when phase three kicks off assuming Sian goes to plan. Unless Cuttlefish has reinforced the far north (Urumchi and points nearby)the troops up that way don't have AT guns for the most part a little bit of armored say 2 to 3 if you can spare and some small infantry units can go a long way. The bulk of your forces should be focused on the Lanchow area as it's good defensive terrain and he probably has some decent units in and around.
Make sure you cover with recon and a few extra base forces for captured bases for your big push, his units out in the bush will try and harass and get on your supply paths.
Assuming they are some of his better starting AV units s/se of Yenan the longer he waits to move the better off you are. I'm a master of the obvious. [;)]The Japanese players that attack Yenan before Sian are only pushing LCUs to more valuable areas.
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RE: Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
I understand Cuttlefish's delemma it's not easy making the mental transition when you are so used to playing just one side exclusively.
Aye, that's why this whole AFB/JFB thing is such a problem. It isn't just that people argue for the wrong sorts of "fixes" if they only ever see one side of the problem but also that they begin inculcating one particular viewpoint in themselves. They then, after several games, often can be found on the forum stating, "I just can't get the Japanese/Allies". What has happened is they have gotten used to adopting a blinkered view which applies to a particular situation and thus can no longer apply the much simpler basics of strategy which are applicable in all situations.
It is like a chess player who only ever plays white... They learn only white openings and thus miss out on learning a lot of the basics of strategy which might underpin slightly different approaches.
John Dillworth: "I had GreyJoy check my spelling and he said it was fine."
Well, that's that settled then.
Well, that's that settled then.
RE: Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
Feb 6, 1942
Great discussion, gents. I'm sure if I played Allies after all this JFB living I'd be confused too!
Subs
No contacts other than our search planes harassing the enemy in the DEI. Interestingly, the USN subs have either vacated the Formosa Straits or gotten a whole lot better at hiding as we still have 3 ASW TFs and a bunch of Anns hunting.
4th Fleet
A bit of a snafu here. We invade Canton Island, unloading in all three phases and suffering almost no damage from enemy gunfire. This is good because we forgot Canton is an atoll (inexcusable mistake). Worse, CF has an arty unit and two base forces present. They are non-combat but still muster 8 adjusted AS vs our 9 off a raw AS of 56:11 in our favor. Odds 1:1, forts dropped to 2 (!), casualties a painful 26(1) vs 488(0). The SNLF is in bad shape with a lot of disablements. We have plenty of supply and support and will unload more supply, but daily bombardments may be enough to keep our troops from recovering. We will probably bring in reinforcements as killing 3 enemy LCUs and probably capturing a lot of stores (looks like CF is building this base up) would be nice. We are trying to figure a way to induce a counterinvasion in a manner that would allow an ambush. However, our CVs are a ways off and TB isn't built up yet and can't house Nettys. We could divert the Taiyo raiders to the neighborhood, however. Hmmm.
SE Fleet
Building the bases while awaiting 20th Division and the mid February slew of Naval Guard units. PM forts hit level 3 and we have mines and a mini sub in place with ACMs on the way.
14th Army
Tagbilaran invaded.
16th Army
We are ready to launch the Dili invasion and plot a hopefully clever course through sub infested waters. Koepang invasion will RV at Manado tomorrow and ship out thereafter. Indes Fleet will cover the Koepang TF, Celebes Sea Sqdn the Dili TF. MKB should form within 72 hours and will provide distant cover to both, as will scads of LBA from Ambon and Kendari. We will then move immediately into Phase 2 of Operation SM.
DA Tanjoengselor takes the base, odds 3:1, casualties 213(41) vs 24(0), 2 LCUs retreat into the jungle. Banggi invaded.
25th Army
4 ships are spotted moving SW near Sabang, one ID'd as a CL. A TF ID'd as 6 PGs spotted at Sabang. CF recons Georgetown. What is he up to? Cribtop Intel estimates he is looking for a raiding target to try to disturb our LoC or take out a big airbase like Alor Star. We have precautions against these moves but wonder if he is gearing up for a more substantial offensive. This would go against his play style to date, but it makes some sense to try now as we just took Johore Bahru and he will assume (correctly) that most of our troops are focused on Singapore. Still, given our control of the air and sea near southern Malaya, and the LBA and even CVs we could bring to bear, Cribtop HQ almost hopes the enemy tries something. It could be a marvelous way to suck his fleet into a losing battle against Nettys and MKB if he attacks, while we can easily sea supply the Singapore army via Mersing. For now, we just put a regiment at Johore in strat mode as a local reserve and will await events.
Tioman Island is occupied. Also, we twice hear sinking sounds during the turn. Hmmm. Survivors of Darwin trying to make a new home port? British BBs? Who knows, but whatever is sinking is green, which is fine by us.
15th Army
Aerial recon shows a movement arrow over the enemy stack at Rangoon. Is CF trying a last minute evacuation? Is Viper Force moving somewhere it can be more useful? Either way, we DA the city again tomorrow.
China
IJA LCUs enter the Nanyang hex and turn the last green hexides red. The city is officially isolated. BA tomorrow to determine raw AS.
Great discussion, gents. I'm sure if I played Allies after all this JFB living I'd be confused too!
Subs
No contacts other than our search planes harassing the enemy in the DEI. Interestingly, the USN subs have either vacated the Formosa Straits or gotten a whole lot better at hiding as we still have 3 ASW TFs and a bunch of Anns hunting.
4th Fleet
A bit of a snafu here. We invade Canton Island, unloading in all three phases and suffering almost no damage from enemy gunfire. This is good because we forgot Canton is an atoll (inexcusable mistake). Worse, CF has an arty unit and two base forces present. They are non-combat but still muster 8 adjusted AS vs our 9 off a raw AS of 56:11 in our favor. Odds 1:1, forts dropped to 2 (!), casualties a painful 26(1) vs 488(0). The SNLF is in bad shape with a lot of disablements. We have plenty of supply and support and will unload more supply, but daily bombardments may be enough to keep our troops from recovering. We will probably bring in reinforcements as killing 3 enemy LCUs and probably capturing a lot of stores (looks like CF is building this base up) would be nice. We are trying to figure a way to induce a counterinvasion in a manner that would allow an ambush. However, our CVs are a ways off and TB isn't built up yet and can't house Nettys. We could divert the Taiyo raiders to the neighborhood, however. Hmmm.
SE Fleet
Building the bases while awaiting 20th Division and the mid February slew of Naval Guard units. PM forts hit level 3 and we have mines and a mini sub in place with ACMs on the way.
14th Army
Tagbilaran invaded.
16th Army
We are ready to launch the Dili invasion and plot a hopefully clever course through sub infested waters. Koepang invasion will RV at Manado tomorrow and ship out thereafter. Indes Fleet will cover the Koepang TF, Celebes Sea Sqdn the Dili TF. MKB should form within 72 hours and will provide distant cover to both, as will scads of LBA from Ambon and Kendari. We will then move immediately into Phase 2 of Operation SM.
DA Tanjoengselor takes the base, odds 3:1, casualties 213(41) vs 24(0), 2 LCUs retreat into the jungle. Banggi invaded.
25th Army
4 ships are spotted moving SW near Sabang, one ID'd as a CL. A TF ID'd as 6 PGs spotted at Sabang. CF recons Georgetown. What is he up to? Cribtop Intel estimates he is looking for a raiding target to try to disturb our LoC or take out a big airbase like Alor Star. We have precautions against these moves but wonder if he is gearing up for a more substantial offensive. This would go against his play style to date, but it makes some sense to try now as we just took Johore Bahru and he will assume (correctly) that most of our troops are focused on Singapore. Still, given our control of the air and sea near southern Malaya, and the LBA and even CVs we could bring to bear, Cribtop HQ almost hopes the enemy tries something. It could be a marvelous way to suck his fleet into a losing battle against Nettys and MKB if he attacks, while we can easily sea supply the Singapore army via Mersing. For now, we just put a regiment at Johore in strat mode as a local reserve and will await events.
Tioman Island is occupied. Also, we twice hear sinking sounds during the turn. Hmmm. Survivors of Darwin trying to make a new home port? British BBs? Who knows, but whatever is sinking is green, which is fine by us.
15th Army
Aerial recon shows a movement arrow over the enemy stack at Rangoon. Is CF trying a last minute evacuation? Is Viper Force moving somewhere it can be more useful? Either way, we DA the city again tomorrow.
China
IJA LCUs enter the Nanyang hex and turn the last green hexides red. The city is officially isolated. BA tomorrow to determine raw AS.
RE: Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
February 7, 1942
The enemy's situation goes from bad to worse in North China. Reader input sought! See below...
Subs
Our clever pathing for Operation DK has worked so far as we dodge the Dutch sub cordon between Manado and Kendari with the Dili TF, KBL and Celebes Sea Sqdn. We vector numerous subs to Canton Island to watch for enemy reinforcement TFs and/or to pull fragments if it comes to that.
4th Fleet
Cribtop HQ has identified an SNLF at Jaluit that will probably be used to finish Canton. The Baker invasion TF is 2 days out and that small LCU could also reinforce. Taiyo will also pay a visit. The CVE has both Vals and Kates aboard and we may be able to snooker CF into believing part of KB went East even if we accomplish nothing else.
The enemy BA today, as feared, disables another SNLF squad. Looks like we will need help if we want Canton.
SE Fleet
No change.
14th Army
Tagbilaran falls. We suspect the Clark/Bataan garrision is starting to get hungry, but will continue to wait it out.
16th Army
Pickets move out to cover Operation DK as the fleets move toward the invasion beaches. Banggi falls. Noemfoor invaded.
25th Army
We moved the four full divisions present at Johore B. over the causeway into Singers. The big units do better than the little guys, such as indepedent regiments, tanks and artillery. These smaller LCUs will move into the beachhead next minus the nasty shock attack.
The attack itself goes remarkably well. Forts dropped from 3 to 2, odds 1:1, casualties 2479(125) vs 6857(34) with one enemy LCU destroyed. We kill a lot more squads and end the day with 3 Divisions in the 90% combat effective range and one at about 70%. We have at least 450 more AS, including armor, yet to bring to the party. Singapore's days appear numbered, with 38 LCUs in the bag and no sign of either reinforcement or evacuation.
Nells out of Chumphon attack 2 UK DDs and 3 xAKs doing something at Sabang. We are disappointed that thunderstorms in the hex limit us to a single torp hit and two dud strikes. What IS the enemy doing with all this nosing around? We will watch closely.
15th Army
DA Rangoon confirms Viper Force has left and obtains a satisfying 1:1, dropping forts to 1 and achieving a substantially better adjusted AS ratio than the first attack. Casualties 516(19) vs 1910(7). Two of our LCUs are a little war weary but all should still be able to attack again in a few days. Rangoon will fall as soon as forts drop to 0, which could even be the next attack.
We recon Akyab and find no one home. 1st Raiding Regt will go in tomorrow.
China
With attacks on Rangoon and Singers and evidence of the enemy brewing something up in the Malay Peninsula, you'd think this turn had enough action. Think again.
First, BA Nanyang shows raw AS at 2806 to 2420 in our favor. The BA actually inflicts 148 casualties and kills 3 squads. A sign of supply difficulties already?
MUCH more interestingly, Cuttlefish tries a DA by his stack just SE of Sian. Given the rough/wooded terrain bonuses, this is ill advised. Perhaps a sign of fear over Nanyang's plight? No matter the motivation, the attack is a thorough disaster for the KMT. Odds 1:7, casualties 6572(173) vs 1341(5). Banzai! [&o]
This opens very positive options for us in North China. Raw AS before the attack near Sian was 2100 vs 1783 in the enemy's favor. Adjusted AS in the fight was 1026 vs 7709 in our favor. The enemy units are probably unhappy, but they haven't been retreated. They suffer 666 disabled squads in addition to the 173 killed outright. This is relevant in China as it is difficult to get the supply needed for the KMT units to recover these disablements.
Here is the question, readers: Do you think we have enough combat power to counterattack and push this big stack into Sian? If so, the city is doomed. We will BA tomorrow to determine a revised raw AS but would like your thoughts. The tough terrain that so aided us today will hurt us if we become the aggressor.
One plan immediately comes to mind. We happen to have a lot of reinforcements that were destined for a South China offensive. CF now has a trapped army and a wrecked army in North China. The floodgates are in serious danger of opening. His last significant forces are at Changsha and Ichang, separated from the action by a decent wall of dug in Japanese troops. However, he may feel he has no choice but to try to relieve Nanyang. We are thinking of hiding our reserves and enticing his armies onto the plains, at which point we pounce and get Ichang and/or Changsha in the bargain (or at least southern China for free as he would then have to evacuate those bases to cover the more vital Changsha, IMHO). Meanwhile Nanyang starves anyway and the enemy army there still dies. Alternatively, CF may try an attack in South China, but he will have to shift from Ichang and Changsha to do so, and we will be watching.
Thoughts welcome. This is a good problem to have but we want to take full advantage.
The enemy's situation goes from bad to worse in North China. Reader input sought! See below...
Subs
Our clever pathing for Operation DK has worked so far as we dodge the Dutch sub cordon between Manado and Kendari with the Dili TF, KBL and Celebes Sea Sqdn. We vector numerous subs to Canton Island to watch for enemy reinforcement TFs and/or to pull fragments if it comes to that.
4th Fleet
Cribtop HQ has identified an SNLF at Jaluit that will probably be used to finish Canton. The Baker invasion TF is 2 days out and that small LCU could also reinforce. Taiyo will also pay a visit. The CVE has both Vals and Kates aboard and we may be able to snooker CF into believing part of KB went East even if we accomplish nothing else.
The enemy BA today, as feared, disables another SNLF squad. Looks like we will need help if we want Canton.
SE Fleet
No change.
14th Army
Tagbilaran falls. We suspect the Clark/Bataan garrision is starting to get hungry, but will continue to wait it out.
16th Army
Pickets move out to cover Operation DK as the fleets move toward the invasion beaches. Banggi falls. Noemfoor invaded.
25th Army
We moved the four full divisions present at Johore B. over the causeway into Singers. The big units do better than the little guys, such as indepedent regiments, tanks and artillery. These smaller LCUs will move into the beachhead next minus the nasty shock attack.
The attack itself goes remarkably well. Forts dropped from 3 to 2, odds 1:1, casualties 2479(125) vs 6857(34) with one enemy LCU destroyed. We kill a lot more squads and end the day with 3 Divisions in the 90% combat effective range and one at about 70%. We have at least 450 more AS, including armor, yet to bring to the party. Singapore's days appear numbered, with 38 LCUs in the bag and no sign of either reinforcement or evacuation.
Nells out of Chumphon attack 2 UK DDs and 3 xAKs doing something at Sabang. We are disappointed that thunderstorms in the hex limit us to a single torp hit and two dud strikes. What IS the enemy doing with all this nosing around? We will watch closely.
15th Army
DA Rangoon confirms Viper Force has left and obtains a satisfying 1:1, dropping forts to 1 and achieving a substantially better adjusted AS ratio than the first attack. Casualties 516(19) vs 1910(7). Two of our LCUs are a little war weary but all should still be able to attack again in a few days. Rangoon will fall as soon as forts drop to 0, which could even be the next attack.
We recon Akyab and find no one home. 1st Raiding Regt will go in tomorrow.
China
With attacks on Rangoon and Singers and evidence of the enemy brewing something up in the Malay Peninsula, you'd think this turn had enough action. Think again.
First, BA Nanyang shows raw AS at 2806 to 2420 in our favor. The BA actually inflicts 148 casualties and kills 3 squads. A sign of supply difficulties already?
MUCH more interestingly, Cuttlefish tries a DA by his stack just SE of Sian. Given the rough/wooded terrain bonuses, this is ill advised. Perhaps a sign of fear over Nanyang's plight? No matter the motivation, the attack is a thorough disaster for the KMT. Odds 1:7, casualties 6572(173) vs 1341(5). Banzai! [&o]
This opens very positive options for us in North China. Raw AS before the attack near Sian was 2100 vs 1783 in the enemy's favor. Adjusted AS in the fight was 1026 vs 7709 in our favor. The enemy units are probably unhappy, but they haven't been retreated. They suffer 666 disabled squads in addition to the 173 killed outright. This is relevant in China as it is difficult to get the supply needed for the KMT units to recover these disablements.
Here is the question, readers: Do you think we have enough combat power to counterattack and push this big stack into Sian? If so, the city is doomed. We will BA tomorrow to determine a revised raw AS but would like your thoughts. The tough terrain that so aided us today will hurt us if we become the aggressor.
One plan immediately comes to mind. We happen to have a lot of reinforcements that were destined for a South China offensive. CF now has a trapped army and a wrecked army in North China. The floodgates are in serious danger of opening. His last significant forces are at Changsha and Ichang, separated from the action by a decent wall of dug in Japanese troops. However, he may feel he has no choice but to try to relieve Nanyang. We are thinking of hiding our reserves and enticing his armies onto the plains, at which point we pounce and get Ichang and/or Changsha in the bargain (or at least southern China for free as he would then have to evacuate those bases to cover the more vital Changsha, IMHO). Meanwhile Nanyang starves anyway and the enemy army there still dies. Alternatively, CF may try an attack in South China, but he will have to shift from Ichang and Changsha to do so, and we will be watching.
Thoughts welcome. This is a good problem to have but we want to take full advantage.
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RE: Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
Siege warfare - be very careful when you attack both Singapore and Clark Field with anything besides a full or recombined infantry division. Using brigades or just the infantry regiments will very quickly leave you with that unit combat ineffective following just one day when the 'dice gods' are not on your side. [:-] I've had and my current opponent both had the 65th Brigade totally trashed at Clark. He told me it was down to 2 AV. [X(]
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Agreed. That's why we only sent the full divisions over the channel into Singers. The smaller units should be able to enter the hex without a shock attack now.
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RE: Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
Attack! The defeated, disrupted Chinese army at Sian is vulnerable. It's not often you get a shot at making a stack retreat, and the losses when you do so are truly awful. It's worth the risk. Try to bomb the stack as much as possible that turn.
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RE: Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
P.S. Deliberate, not shock, at least the first time until you get a feel for the adjusted AVs.
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RE: Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
That's my thought. We're bombarding this turn to draw supply back to white and to get a feel for the enemy's raw AS after their failed attack. Seems like a worthy gamble, but those terrain mods are evil. However, even if we fail, we can recover disablements while the supply challenged Chinese can't.
RE: Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
Bombarding is the safe play, I agree that is good defensive territory by chance do you know if CF has been digging in there for awhile? If so some of his troops may have a few forts.
How much bombing by LBA is this area seeing and wondering have you a latest recon on Sian? I'd also recon cities north to see if he's moving more to the party. If it were me I'd have my worst LCU at Sian and the bulk of my forces south of the city and a few east so I'm wondering if what you're facing is the bulk of his defense forces allocated for Sian. So it might be prudent to send one bombing run over Sian to see what his strongest unit is .
Sorry to ramble on.[:)]
It looks like you have a tough call at Nanyang do you hold them prisoner and in the process do the same with some of your troops or do you kill them off and use the better units at Nanyang to help them spearhead your drive? At some point CF is going to try and assist the troops in an escape. The other day I was in the prisoner camp, I think with the doors open near Sian I've moved to the kill them off camp. I'd be interested in what experienced players on this side have to say about it.
How much bombing by LBA is this area seeing and wondering have you a latest recon on Sian? I'd also recon cities north to see if he's moving more to the party. If it were me I'd have my worst LCU at Sian and the bulk of my forces south of the city and a few east so I'm wondering if what you're facing is the bulk of his defense forces allocated for Sian. So it might be prudent to send one bombing run over Sian to see what his strongest unit is .
Sorry to ramble on.[:)]
It looks like you have a tough call at Nanyang do you hold them prisoner and in the process do the same with some of your troops or do you kill them off and use the better units at Nanyang to help them spearhead your drive? At some point CF is going to try and assist the troops in an escape. The other day I was in the prisoner camp, I think with the doors open near Sian I've moved to the kill them off camp. I'd be interested in what experienced players on this side have to say about it.
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RE: Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
I'd kill them off so that I could take Nanyang and move on. They'll respawn at 1/3rd TOE, but that may only equivalent to what they are now - so no net gain for China, but Japan gets the points for the kills, takes the base, and frees up his own troops to move on and press the Chinese back, back, back.
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RE: Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
Feb 8, 1942
Subs
Ugh. I hate to even write this. Not a glorious day for the I-boats. Commanding Officer 6th Fleet is preparing for ritual suicide. [:-]
I-15 misses CV Enterprise with 6 torps near Sydney. Later in the phase she misses CA Chicago in the same hex. Three enemy TFs are spotted at the time of the attack but were no longer visible after the replay. Then I-162 misses That Damn Boise near Denpasar. At least the escorts couldn't hit any better than our subs. Next I-165 enters the Sabang hex seeking the xAKs our Nells missed and to generally snoop on why the enemy is obsessively reconning Georgetown. She finds the HDMLs and takes a real DC hit. She'll limp to Alor Star and has a good chance of making it.
In a karmic "nanny nanny boo boo," KXVII then sinks PC Ashi, which was moving down the Makassar Strait to serve as a picket for the Timor invasions. Joy.
All bitching aside, I-15 gained us very valuable intel. Looks like the USN CVs are putting in at Sydney (are they due a refit about now?) en route back to the Pacific theaters. More I-boats vector to the area, but we blow a golden opportunity to smack the Big E. Sigh.
4th Fleet
Baker Island invaded and falls to the auto SA. The Canton relief force will consist of the Baker SNLF Coy and the SNLF at Jaluit, which is ordered to load today. We should be able to get in and out before the enemy carriers reach the neighborhood (even assuming that for some reason they sail hell for leather to save Canton, which Cribtop Intel rates as unlikely). Our SNLF at Canton ticks up to 15 AS despite allied BA.
SE Fleet
Mostly building up the perimeter. 20th Division will begin unloading at Truk tomorrow, but given the position of USN CVs we're not sticking our noses out in this AO for a while. This is fine as frankly we already have what we need. Anything else would be outposts that fall under the "what we want" category.
14th Army
Odd little incident today. Our DBCL (Dot Base Cleanup) TF invades Busuanga and finds no troops but three ships in port, one ID'd as a CL. The CL bit is unlikely but something must be there. Weird. The TF will run away tomorrow just in case. A Nate Sentai at Takao upgraded to Oscar Ic a few days ago and has almost finished repairing. When this unit arrives in Burma we will have the forces necessary to challenge AVG.
16th Army
We line up ships for Operation DK in the Banda Sea. KB and KBL will RV tomorrow SSE of Kendari and form MKB with 6 CV and 3 CVL. Melding of the TFs will allow two full DesDivs to guard each Carrier Division against subs. Nice. We hope the Boise TF scoots over our way as KB hasn't been sighted, but we doubt CF will do this as he knows Netties are present. Speaking of Netties, Nells from Ambon and Kendari hit the Darwin airfield today and get a nice haul. Cribtop Intel noted no more ships in port but 38 bombers and no fighters per recon. So we pay a visit and hit a goodly number of planes on the ground. I would hate to live in Darwin right now. [:D]
2 DMS begin to clear mines from the harbor at Balikpapan while transports fly in most of 5th Air Division. Two runs by an FT TF will complete the move forward to Balikpapan. Then this Air HQ will jump to Denpasar.
Noemfoor falls to a DBCL TF.
25th Army
We are paying close attention to the daily recon of Georgetown. Currently two combat engineer regiments are present and we will soon have a regiment at Johore Bahru in strat mode just in case. The balance of the Singapore army is about 2 days out from crossing the channel. Supply and recovery of the units on the island is going well. The next DA will come soon.
15th Army
1st Raiding Regiment jumps into and seizes an empty Akyab. Will be interesting to see what CF does about this, if anything. We can't DA at Rangoon again only because supply levels are still in the red (damn yellow roads). IJAAF pounds the airfield unopposed while AVG still sits at Toungoo, which is still a level 1 airfield.
China
Round the clock bombing of Nanyang begins today. This is because a BA near Sian shows raw AS at 1772 to 1718 in our favor. The enemy has lost almost 400 AS in his attack, and his quality is lower than the IJA, but Cribtop HQ rates that as too tough a nut to crack given the dramatic effect of terrain advantages. Thus we decide to be a little boring, concentrate reinforcements at Nanyang and destroy the enemy. Then we assemble a force capable of seizing Sian and perhaps Lanchow.
BA Nanyang shows enemy raw AS dropping at the rate of 5 per day. Lack of supply plus a clear hex will soon take their toll. CF has slipped a lone LCU down the road a hex from the Sian battlefront. We will counter by moving a unit NW 1 hex along the road from Nanyang to prevent the enemy from opening a hexside. There will be no repeat of the escape at Loyang if we can help it.
5th Fleet
Jakes flying from an AV at Adak find that island clear. We may use a Nav Guard to take the place.
Economy
Just realized I forgot to give you guys a February 1 economic update. Not a lot to tell, really. Everything is moving in the right direction, just need to get more Oil home. Airframes and engines have been rationalized and the planning tool in Tracker shows we are good for months to come. Junyo is accelerated and has been since the accelerated arrival of Shoho. We need to find time to rationalize our R&D factories soon.
Subs
Ugh. I hate to even write this. Not a glorious day for the I-boats. Commanding Officer 6th Fleet is preparing for ritual suicide. [:-]
I-15 misses CV Enterprise with 6 torps near Sydney. Later in the phase she misses CA Chicago in the same hex. Three enemy TFs are spotted at the time of the attack but were no longer visible after the replay. Then I-162 misses That Damn Boise near Denpasar. At least the escorts couldn't hit any better than our subs. Next I-165 enters the Sabang hex seeking the xAKs our Nells missed and to generally snoop on why the enemy is obsessively reconning Georgetown. She finds the HDMLs and takes a real DC hit. She'll limp to Alor Star and has a good chance of making it.
In a karmic "nanny nanny boo boo," KXVII then sinks PC Ashi, which was moving down the Makassar Strait to serve as a picket for the Timor invasions. Joy.
All bitching aside, I-15 gained us very valuable intel. Looks like the USN CVs are putting in at Sydney (are they due a refit about now?) en route back to the Pacific theaters. More I-boats vector to the area, but we blow a golden opportunity to smack the Big E. Sigh.
4th Fleet
Baker Island invaded and falls to the auto SA. The Canton relief force will consist of the Baker SNLF Coy and the SNLF at Jaluit, which is ordered to load today. We should be able to get in and out before the enemy carriers reach the neighborhood (even assuming that for some reason they sail hell for leather to save Canton, which Cribtop Intel rates as unlikely). Our SNLF at Canton ticks up to 15 AS despite allied BA.
SE Fleet
Mostly building up the perimeter. 20th Division will begin unloading at Truk tomorrow, but given the position of USN CVs we're not sticking our noses out in this AO for a while. This is fine as frankly we already have what we need. Anything else would be outposts that fall under the "what we want" category.
14th Army
Odd little incident today. Our DBCL (Dot Base Cleanup) TF invades Busuanga and finds no troops but three ships in port, one ID'd as a CL. The CL bit is unlikely but something must be there. Weird. The TF will run away tomorrow just in case. A Nate Sentai at Takao upgraded to Oscar Ic a few days ago and has almost finished repairing. When this unit arrives in Burma we will have the forces necessary to challenge AVG.
16th Army
We line up ships for Operation DK in the Banda Sea. KB and KBL will RV tomorrow SSE of Kendari and form MKB with 6 CV and 3 CVL. Melding of the TFs will allow two full DesDivs to guard each Carrier Division against subs. Nice. We hope the Boise TF scoots over our way as KB hasn't been sighted, but we doubt CF will do this as he knows Netties are present. Speaking of Netties, Nells from Ambon and Kendari hit the Darwin airfield today and get a nice haul. Cribtop Intel noted no more ships in port but 38 bombers and no fighters per recon. So we pay a visit and hit a goodly number of planes on the ground. I would hate to live in Darwin right now. [:D]
2 DMS begin to clear mines from the harbor at Balikpapan while transports fly in most of 5th Air Division. Two runs by an FT TF will complete the move forward to Balikpapan. Then this Air HQ will jump to Denpasar.
Noemfoor falls to a DBCL TF.
25th Army
We are paying close attention to the daily recon of Georgetown. Currently two combat engineer regiments are present and we will soon have a regiment at Johore Bahru in strat mode just in case. The balance of the Singapore army is about 2 days out from crossing the channel. Supply and recovery of the units on the island is going well. The next DA will come soon.
15th Army
1st Raiding Regiment jumps into and seizes an empty Akyab. Will be interesting to see what CF does about this, if anything. We can't DA at Rangoon again only because supply levels are still in the red (damn yellow roads). IJAAF pounds the airfield unopposed while AVG still sits at Toungoo, which is still a level 1 airfield.
China
Round the clock bombing of Nanyang begins today. This is because a BA near Sian shows raw AS at 1772 to 1718 in our favor. The enemy has lost almost 400 AS in his attack, and his quality is lower than the IJA, but Cribtop HQ rates that as too tough a nut to crack given the dramatic effect of terrain advantages. Thus we decide to be a little boring, concentrate reinforcements at Nanyang and destroy the enemy. Then we assemble a force capable of seizing Sian and perhaps Lanchow.
BA Nanyang shows enemy raw AS dropping at the rate of 5 per day. Lack of supply plus a clear hex will soon take their toll. CF has slipped a lone LCU down the road a hex from the Sian battlefront. We will counter by moving a unit NW 1 hex along the road from Nanyang to prevent the enemy from opening a hexside. There will be no repeat of the escape at Loyang if we can help it.
5th Fleet
Jakes flying from an AV at Adak find that island clear. We may use a Nav Guard to take the place.
Economy
Just realized I forgot to give you guys a February 1 economic update. Not a lot to tell, really. Everything is moving in the right direction, just need to get more Oil home. Airframes and engines have been rationalized and the planning tool in Tracker shows we are good for months to come. Junyo is accelerated and has been since the accelerated arrival of Shoho. We need to find time to rationalize our R&D factories soon.
RE: Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
February 9, 1942
Subs
No contacts for our side despite vectoring I-boats to snoop around Sydney. [:(] Near Formosa our first 8 DC rack equipped ASW TF goes into action against Skipjack. No hits but the sheer number of DC attacks from these little buggers will tell someday.
4th Fleet
No change.
SE Fleet
No change.
14th Army
DA Davao takes the place easily, odds 8:1, 4 LCUs retreated, casualties 912(129) vs 130(1). Mindanao is almost wrapped up.
We sent Hosho hunting out from Jolo to see if the enemy ships spotted in port at Busuanga fled (remember Hosho is now destined for training duties as she can't keep up with the fleet carriers). They don't, so Hosho's Kates port attack in the PM phase. No hits, but the anchor symbol still shows. What's great about this is between the port attack and the fact the Hosho TF was spotted with the "Radio, raise Command" message about carriers, CF may falsely assume KBL is still mucking around Jolo. Unfortunately we forgot to order the DA at Busuanga that would have destroyed the ships there. D'oh! We'll get them tomorrow.
Siquijor invaded by the other 14th Army DBCL TF.
16th Army
KB and KBL RV to form MKB (now that's a sentence so chock full of acronyms I felt compelled to lengthen it with a parenthetical [:)]). Car Div 1 contains Akagi, Kaga and the 3 CVLs. Car Div 2 contains the four faster CVs (Hiryu, Soryu, Shokaku and Zuikaku). Each TF sports Kongo class BBs, 3 CAs, 1 CS, 2 CLs and 12 modern DDs. ASW for Car Div 1 is 34, for Car Div 2 it's 32. These mighty formations aren't going to stick around the sub infested waters of the DEI for long. Aircraft are almost equal between the TFs.
MKB covers the invasion of Dili today, which goes off without incident. No sign of That Damn Boise. Garrisons on Timor are nominal. The Kopang TFs have slipped past the Dutch sub cordon and are a few days out from D Day.
The 2 DMS at Balikpapan continue to clear mines.
25th Army
The rest of the army crosses into Singers tomorrow.
15th Army
We are ready to DA Rangoon. We guarantee it falls tomorrow because the enemy's forces abandoned it today en masse. They retreated 1 hex NE up the good road to Prome but have no way to catch the rails north. We will seize the city and pursue along all three good roads. The fall of Rangoon will cause our VP totals, already almost even with CF's, to vault past the Allies.
China
Our blocking force moves into the hex NW of Nanyang. The enemy's relief Corps will need to be reinforced to have any chance as we are in rough terrain. This is good as we can entice CF to either abandon Nanyang to its fate or continue to reinforce from his already weakened Sian army, which obviously courts disaster.
Subs
No contacts for our side despite vectoring I-boats to snoop around Sydney. [:(] Near Formosa our first 8 DC rack equipped ASW TF goes into action against Skipjack. No hits but the sheer number of DC attacks from these little buggers will tell someday.
4th Fleet
No change.
SE Fleet
No change.
14th Army
DA Davao takes the place easily, odds 8:1, 4 LCUs retreated, casualties 912(129) vs 130(1). Mindanao is almost wrapped up.
We sent Hosho hunting out from Jolo to see if the enemy ships spotted in port at Busuanga fled (remember Hosho is now destined for training duties as she can't keep up with the fleet carriers). They don't, so Hosho's Kates port attack in the PM phase. No hits, but the anchor symbol still shows. What's great about this is between the port attack and the fact the Hosho TF was spotted with the "Radio, raise Command" message about carriers, CF may falsely assume KBL is still mucking around Jolo. Unfortunately we forgot to order the DA at Busuanga that would have destroyed the ships there. D'oh! We'll get them tomorrow.
Siquijor invaded by the other 14th Army DBCL TF.
16th Army
KB and KBL RV to form MKB (now that's a sentence so chock full of acronyms I felt compelled to lengthen it with a parenthetical [:)]). Car Div 1 contains Akagi, Kaga and the 3 CVLs. Car Div 2 contains the four faster CVs (Hiryu, Soryu, Shokaku and Zuikaku). Each TF sports Kongo class BBs, 3 CAs, 1 CS, 2 CLs and 12 modern DDs. ASW for Car Div 1 is 34, for Car Div 2 it's 32. These mighty formations aren't going to stick around the sub infested waters of the DEI for long. Aircraft are almost equal between the TFs.
MKB covers the invasion of Dili today, which goes off without incident. No sign of That Damn Boise. Garrisons on Timor are nominal. The Kopang TFs have slipped past the Dutch sub cordon and are a few days out from D Day.
The 2 DMS at Balikpapan continue to clear mines.
25th Army
The rest of the army crosses into Singers tomorrow.
15th Army
We are ready to DA Rangoon. We guarantee it falls tomorrow because the enemy's forces abandoned it today en masse. They retreated 1 hex NE up the good road to Prome but have no way to catch the rails north. We will seize the city and pursue along all three good roads. The fall of Rangoon will cause our VP totals, already almost even with CF's, to vault past the Allies.
China
Our blocking force moves into the hex NW of Nanyang. The enemy's relief Corps will need to be reinforced to have any chance as we are in rough terrain. This is good as we can entice CF to either abandon Nanyang to its fate or continue to reinforce from his already weakened Sian army, which obviously courts disaster.
RE: Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
my sword will not cut
but the edge is honed and sharp
my hand must be dull
but the edge is honed and sharp
my hand must be dull
RE: Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
Did your subs load some of the US torps you found at Manilia?
Ryan Opel
RE: Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
Enterprise 1st refit is scheduled for April of 42 with a 7 day delay.ORIGINAL: Cribtop
Feb 8, 1942
In a karmic "nanny nanny boo boo," KXVII then sinks PC Ashi, which was moving down the Makassar Strait to serve as a picket for the Timor invasions. Joy.
All bitching aside, I-15 gained us very valuable intel. Looks like the USN CVs are putting in at Sydney (are they due a refit about now?) en route back to the Pacific theaters. More I-boats vector to the area, but we blow a golden opportunity to smack the Big E. Sigh.
China
Round the clock bombing of Nanyang begins today. This is because a BA near Sian shows raw AS at 1772 to 1718 in our favor. The enemy has lost almost 400 AS in his attack, and his quality is lower than the IJA, but Cribtop HQ rates that as too tough a nut to crack given the dramatic effect of terrain advantages. Thus we decide to be a little boring, concentrate reinforcements at Nanyang and destroy the enemy. Then we assemble a force capable of seizing Sian and perhaps Lanchow.
BA Nanyang shows enemy raw AS dropping at the rate of 5 per day. Lack of supply plus a clear hex will soon take their toll. CF has slipped a lone LCU down the road a hex from the Sian battlefront. We will counter by moving a unit NW 1 hex along the road from Nanyang to prevent the enemy from opening a hexside. There will be no repeat of the escape at Loyang if we can help it.
Saratoga and Lexington 1st refit is available 3/42 requiring a size 25 shipyard and 27 day delay.
Good call in China, can you update the map when something happens?
Thanks![:)]
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RE: Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
KB and KBL RV to form MKB (now that's a sentence so chock full of acronyms I felt compelled to lengthen it with a parenthetical ). Car Div 1 contains Akagi, Kaga and the 3 CVLs. Car Div 2 contains the four faster CVs (Hiryu, Soryu, Shokaku and Zuikaku). Each TF sports Kongo class BBs, 3 CAs, 1 CS, 2 CLs and 12 modern DDs. ASW for Car Div 1 is 34, for Car Div 2 it's 32. These mighty formations aren't going to stick around the sub infested waters of the DEI for long. Aircraft are almost equal between the TFs.
Think about having one Val group assigned only to ASW at 1,000 or 2,000 ft with range restricted to (2 or 4 which is 1 or 2 hexes actual) with about 50% on ASW patrol and the other 30 to 50% on ASW training. Your FPs might find the subs, but their bombs will just send the sub to port for repairs while the Vals may actually sink one if they get a good hit.
PM sent on R&D airframe stuff.
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[/center]RE: Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
Feb 10, 1942
First off, major thanks to ny59giants for his assistance via PM with my economy. Great stuff!
Rangoon falls a month before the historical date and we almost catch up on VPs.
Subs
A small measure of revenge as I-175 torpedoes and sinks AO Cuyama near the Bass Straits. The AOs are no doubt trailing the enemy CVs. Note the lack of mention of Dutch subs despite major action in the DEI. Knock on wood -- let's hope it stays that way.
4th Fleet
We are putting together a reinforcement invasion at Canton. We want the island because it establishes a defensible perimeter, will no doubt capture good stores since the enemy reinforced it, and will mean the destruction of 3 enemy LCUs.
SE Fleet
AA units will be delivered to Shortlands and Lae tomorrow. Lae makes level 2 airfield and will soon host airborne attacks at Meruake and Horn Island. The former PM garrison marches on the now empty Terape.
14th Army
Siquijor and Busuanga fall. The mystery ships at Busuanga were 2 subs, probably damaged near Formosa and trying to pump out.
16th Army
Dili falls. The Boise TF is spotted SSW of Koepang, no doubt hoping for the chance to give us a bloody nose as it must be obvious that Koepang is next on the menu. Nells from Kendari try to launch but can't find the enemy ships at extreme range. Tomorrow the Koepang invasion force, escorted by an ASW TF and Indes Fleet, will be 4 hexes out. MKB will be hovering and if CF doesn't retire the enemy SCTF will suffer.
25th Army
The balance of our army arrives at Singers. DA tomorrow. Balabac invaded.
15th Army
Abandoned Rangoon falls. We miscalculated the VP impact slightly so we're still a little behind, but not much. We will pursue the enemy into the interior. Imperial Guards Division will be transferred to 15th Army AO upon the fall of Singapore.
China
3 fresh Divisions converge on Sinyang by rail. Then on to Nanyang and the destruction of 18 enemy LCUs. That's the script, anyway. Hard to see how CF can interrupt it, though.
First off, major thanks to ny59giants for his assistance via PM with my economy. Great stuff!
Rangoon falls a month before the historical date and we almost catch up on VPs.
Subs
A small measure of revenge as I-175 torpedoes and sinks AO Cuyama near the Bass Straits. The AOs are no doubt trailing the enemy CVs. Note the lack of mention of Dutch subs despite major action in the DEI. Knock on wood -- let's hope it stays that way.
4th Fleet
We are putting together a reinforcement invasion at Canton. We want the island because it establishes a defensible perimeter, will no doubt capture good stores since the enemy reinforced it, and will mean the destruction of 3 enemy LCUs.
SE Fleet
AA units will be delivered to Shortlands and Lae tomorrow. Lae makes level 2 airfield and will soon host airborne attacks at Meruake and Horn Island. The former PM garrison marches on the now empty Terape.
14th Army
Siquijor and Busuanga fall. The mystery ships at Busuanga were 2 subs, probably damaged near Formosa and trying to pump out.
16th Army
Dili falls. The Boise TF is spotted SSW of Koepang, no doubt hoping for the chance to give us a bloody nose as it must be obvious that Koepang is next on the menu. Nells from Kendari try to launch but can't find the enemy ships at extreme range. Tomorrow the Koepang invasion force, escorted by an ASW TF and Indes Fleet, will be 4 hexes out. MKB will be hovering and if CF doesn't retire the enemy SCTF will suffer.
25th Army
The balance of our army arrives at Singers. DA tomorrow. Balabac invaded.
15th Army
Abandoned Rangoon falls. We miscalculated the VP impact slightly so we're still a little behind, but not much. We will pursue the enemy into the interior. Imperial Guards Division will be transferred to 15th Army AO upon the fall of Singapore.
China
3 fresh Divisions converge on Sinyang by rail. Then on to Nanyang and the destruction of 18 enemy LCUs. That's the script, anyway. Hard to see how CF can interrupt it, though.
RE: Wait, I can't read Cuttlefish's new AAR? - Cribtop (J) vs CF (A)
Feb 11, 1942
Subs
S-36 misses a DD escort in a TF staging an SNLF to Jolo for the Denpasar invasion. Escorts of a TF of size 1250 TKs chase off S-41 near Cam Ranh Bay.
4th Fleet
The cavalry is about 3 days away at Canton.
SE Fleet
20th Division is unloaded at Truk. AA is distributed to our main bases at Rabaul, Lae and Shortlands. Para assaults on Horn Island and Meruake are in the offing.
14th Army
Balabac falls.
16th Army
The Boise TF wisely withdrew in the face of MKB, LBA and Indes Fleet. The way is open to land at Koepang tomorrow. Our big raid on Soerabaja is postponed because the air commanders at Kendari brilliantly decide to attack 3 small Dutch minelayers at Banjdermasin rather than stonk 20+ ships in port with no fighter cover (CF really needs to attend to that or there will be many Darwins in this game). At least we sink two minelayers, but a 50+ Netty raid for that is a bit of overkill. [:D]
Tomorrow we hope the raid goes off. Cribtop HQ is not willing to put the planes on Port Attack only until the Koepang invasion is ashore.
25th Army
DA Singers with the full army present does well, forts dropped to 1, odds 1:1, casualties 3517(229) with 2 LCUs destroyed vs 1547(12). The fat lady is warming up. One or at most two more attacks should take the place.
15th Army
No change, our troops are resting at Rangoon before moving out.
China
No change yet, but 2 more divisions will begin marching on Nanyang tomorrow.
Subs
S-36 misses a DD escort in a TF staging an SNLF to Jolo for the Denpasar invasion. Escorts of a TF of size 1250 TKs chase off S-41 near Cam Ranh Bay.
4th Fleet
The cavalry is about 3 days away at Canton.
SE Fleet
20th Division is unloaded at Truk. AA is distributed to our main bases at Rabaul, Lae and Shortlands. Para assaults on Horn Island and Meruake are in the offing.
14th Army
Balabac falls.
16th Army
The Boise TF wisely withdrew in the face of MKB, LBA and Indes Fleet. The way is open to land at Koepang tomorrow. Our big raid on Soerabaja is postponed because the air commanders at Kendari brilliantly decide to attack 3 small Dutch minelayers at Banjdermasin rather than stonk 20+ ships in port with no fighter cover (CF really needs to attend to that or there will be many Darwins in this game). At least we sink two minelayers, but a 50+ Netty raid for that is a bit of overkill. [:D]
Tomorrow we hope the raid goes off. Cribtop HQ is not willing to put the planes on Port Attack only until the Koepang invasion is ashore.
25th Army
DA Singers with the full army present does well, forts dropped to 1, odds 1:1, casualties 3517(229) with 2 LCUs destroyed vs 1547(12). The fat lady is warming up. One or at most two more attacks should take the place.
15th Army
No change, our troops are resting at Rangoon before moving out.
China
No change yet, but 2 more divisions will begin marching on Nanyang tomorrow.