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Neither T nor I suggested that.
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Three things:

1) I can't spell giving

2) I never suggested either of you did. I was pointing out that T's earlier comment was out of place. Boredom and/or Obama bashing has nothing to do with the strength of feeling over the Falklands.

3) The act of betrayal would come courtesy of our spineless buffons in Westminster, "persuaded" by a US administration keen to get South America on side.


Edit: I can't spell spineless either [8|]

3) You're assuming the current (and I can't stress that enough) administration has taken this stance as part of a logically thought out process to change the perception of the US in South America. I think that's giving our government, including the state department, way too much credit. Somewhere along the way geographical proximity was substituted for self-determination.
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Well I can't say much for US politics and politicians, but as far as the majority of our recent leaders are concerned, they "wouldn't recognise a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on a harpsicord singing subtle plans are here again."
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Or a cunning one if you put a tail on it and called it a weasel.
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Either way, Dixie's prediction the other day has come to pass. I just got a War Event demanding that fourteen U-Boats be deployed to the North and Norwegian Seas because those nasty Tommies are coming to invade Norway. Fourteen boats is, COINCIDENTALLY, what I have on patrol. So now they can sit on their collective butts for a week...[:@]


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that's a girl? i thought it was just a young english lad...

oh dear. is therapy required?

you know...kinda like The Young Prince?
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Either way, Dixie's prediction the other day has come to pass. I just got a War Event demanding that fourteen U-Boats be deployed to the North and Norwegian Seas because those nasty Tommies are coming to invade Norway. Fourteen boats is, COINCIDENTALLY, what I have on patrol. So now they can sit on their collective butts for a week...[:@]


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Do their torpedoes work?
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Sort of... There are torpedo attack roll modifiers from -1 to +2, and you start out with -1. You can spend political influence and prestige to improve them.
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Hi all,

Zsssssssss time... [>:][>:][>:]


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Looks interesting. May have to check this one out.
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oh dear. is therapy required?

you know...kinda like The Young Prince?
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KEM - just a little word in your shell like:

Girls are the ones with the breasty dumplings.

mmmm....dumplings...


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A very liberal interpretation of "few".

i guess my sarcasmatron is on the fritz today...[:(]

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cuz fritz is puttin' on the ritz? [:'(]
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is kate kinda like pat?



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an annoyingly androginous character from Saturday Night Live fame...
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But that's not the main point. Sure, to some it is old hat, while to others it is as clear today as it was in 1982. To me personally, it feels like yesterday. Either way, the vast majority of servicemen that lost friends and colleagues or were injured in the war are still alive today, as are most relatives of those that died. Therefore, to even contemplate given up the Falklands is a momumental act of utter betrayal.

Curious.....did the WWII generation have the same reaction to the British sluffing off all of the empire they fought for?
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is kate kinda like pat?



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Who's Pat?

an annoyingly androginous character from Saturday Night Live fame...
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In that case then no. Bob Parkhurst (Blackadder IV) and Kate (Blackadder II) were (as you can see from the pictures) anything but androginous; which was all part of the joke. If you have never had the chance to see the Blackadder series: II (Elizabethan), III (Georgian) or IV (World War I) please try - you will not be disappointed.
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But that's not the main point. Sure, to some it is old hat, while to others it is as clear today as it was in 1982. To me personally, it feels like yesterday. Either way, the vast majority of servicemen that lost friends and colleagues or were injured in the war are still alive today, as are most relatives of those that died. Therefore, to even contemplate given up the Falklands is a momumental act of utter betrayal.

Curious.....did the WWII generation have the same reaction to the British sluffing off all of the empire they fought for?
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That is completely different.

I do not believe the average man/woman in the street thought about fighting for the Empire; fighting for his / her way of life yes, but not some grandiose idea of "Empire".

I have no idea what sluffing off means, but as far as I can tell, the break up of the British Empire was largely peaceful (yes there were exceptions) and was a natural way of things given the changing world at the time. I suspect there may be many of the older generation who looked upon the passing of the Empire with sadness; for the rest it was a case of this is the new world order, and rightly so.

The Falkland Islands are completely different. I will refrain from giving you a potted history, but suffice to say - whether something that happened X hundred years ago was right or wrong, the fact remains; the people living in the Falklands are British, not Spanish, Argentinian or anything else. They have a right to remain so. Men died to uphold that right.
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Sluffing off means 'shedding'....like snakes shed old skin.

How are the Falklands different than any other colony? Are there no native people there? I'm pretty sure I've read that there is indeed a native population that did NOT come from the British isles, but I could be wrong or confusing it with somewhere else.

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Sluffing off means 'shedding'....like snakes shed old skin.

How are the Falklands different than any other colony? Are there no native people there? I'm pretty sure I've read that there is indeed a native population that did NOT come from the British isles, but I could be wrong or confusing it with somewhere else.

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No - there is no indiginous Falkland Islander - of course there may be immigrants that have settled from wherever over time, but the majority of islanders are British and have voted to remain so. THAT is a crucial difference to the rest of the Empire.

Don't get me wrong, if there is anyone in existence (I suspect not!) that wants to keep hold of the islands out of some hark back to a byegone Imperial age, then forget it. This is about the right of self-determination and the British (and US) governments should be the very first in line to say that is one important right; we give up that right at our peril.
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Fair enough. Just an old brain trying to sort things out. I wonder why it keeps insisting it read there was a native Falklands population....no matter. I've long been to the point of caring nothing for politics or world matters and keeping my perspective down on the individual level, where I can do some good, no matter what context it may occur in.

I'll leave what happens in the big picture to God and serve my fellow man, whoever he may be at the time. [;)]
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This game has a very high Just-One-More-Turn-factor. Glad I re-opened it after saving and closing, because after a mediocre turn 8, turn 9 began with the sinking by way of a minefield of HMS Nelson! 41000 tons! [8D]
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Our British brothers are going to be quite perturbed at your obvious relish in the sinking of their beloved navy. [:D]
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Hey, nobody put a gun to their heads and MADE them declare war...[:D]
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