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RE: LOD IS CROSSED

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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

Hmmmm do you not have a Bn off the rail net at 52,11 one unit there and strat mode is a no no

ps I would care to much most of you units are back north of the desert ....arent they....?

Start to think about pulling out the big 4E and whatever 2E bombers you have left they will just eat supply keep a few for harrassment and any low nav trqained or torp sqns you have but the rest its time to go

unfortunately i had no unit at 52,11...however he would simply bomb it to destruction (as he already done before)...
All my "good" units are sitting at Karachi and Hyderabad...

My 4Es are still usefull imho...however i got your point guys..."SAVE SUPPLY"...so i'll keep them as a threat in being and won't use them anymore if not in emercency situation...


Ok, a good turn i'd say. Multan is safe (for the moment)!



Sept 21,22 1942

We airlifted at Multan the 1st Glouchester BN and the Light Owl Bn...
He came with 150 helens escorted by 50 oscars. My Fulmar sacrificed themself tangling with the escort. We lost 11 planes against his 20...however the bomber got through and mouled my troops. But then it came the allied wave...and our 100 bombers (blenheims, Liberators and Wellingtons) completely wiped out what was left of his 4 para-units.
Then he dropped again but this time his transports got intercepted by what was left of my fulmars...8 of them got chewed!
The subsequent shock attack found our guys ready and we wiped them all out!!

On the 22nd my B-17s attacked Dehli...we found 100 fighters on CAP but luckly they were not that effective...we exchanged good blows and we damaged the strip destroying some of them on the ground.

The result of the last bombing campaign is that Rader is now keeping 100 fighters at Dehli, 100 at Surat, 100 at Ahdemabad...all these fighters are not weeping Karachi...which is a damned good news[8D].

The first 60k convoy arrived at Karachi...now we reached the 500k supply level... more 45k are coming within the next 3 days...

Lost sight of his BBs....[&:]

The important news is that we sent our base forces (those who were pushed back from Jodpur) back into their former base and we found some usefull infos about the composition of his Army...


Ground combat at Jodphur (45,14)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 285542 troops, 3314 guns, 3496 vehicles, Assault Value = 10720

Defending force 1104 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 23

Japanese adjusted assault: 8180

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 8180 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


Allied ground losses:
770 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 95 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 27 (26 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 5
Units destroyed 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
43rd Naval Guard Unit
8th Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
48th Engineer Regiment
6th Tank Regiment
44th Naval Guard Unit
38th Division
23rd Tank Regiment
54th Division
17th Indpt Guards Regiment
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
1st Raiding Regiment
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
143rd Infantry Regiment
52nd Division
2nd Raiding Regiment
13th Tank Regiment
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
148th Infantry Regiment
12th Tank Regiment
Guards Tank Division
14th Guards Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
16th Engineer Regiment
4th Division
21st Division
Yokosuka 1st SNLF
16th Recon Regiment
33rd Infantry Regiment
301st Ind.Infantry Battalion
5th Tank Regiment
5th Guards Engineer Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
2nd Mobile Engineer Regiment
53rd Division
33rd Division
144th Infantry Regiment
16th Guards Regiment
4th Guards Division
146th Infantry Regiment
17th Division
7th Tank Regiment
5th Guards Cav Regiment
37th Division
32nd Division
15th Division
51st Recon Regiment
15th Guards Regiment
39th Division
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
Yokosuka 3rd SNLF
19th Ind. Engineer Regiment
55th Engineer Regiment
2nd Mobile Infantry Regiment
61st Infantry Brigade
20th Ind. Engineer Regiment
6th Indpt SNLF Coy
2nd Recon Regiment
1st Tank Regiment
6th Guards Division
5th Division
15th Ind. Engr Rgt /2
55th Const Co
34th Ind.AA Gun Co
29th Fld AA Gun Co
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
13th Ind.AA Gun Co
41st Ind.AA Gun Co
11th RF Gun Battalion
32nd Air Defense AA Battalion
56th Const Co
49th Const Co
48th Road Const Co
35th Const Co
47th Road Const Co
55th Field AA Battalion
1st Air Defense AA Regiment
52nd Const Co
15th JAAF Base Force
7th RF Gun Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
36th Field AA Battalion
48th Field AA Battalion
27th JAAF AF Bn
1st Air Defense AA Battalion
35th Field AA Battalion
53rd Const Co
23rd AA Regiment
21st Air Defense AA Regiment
21st Fld AA Gun Co
1st Ind.AA Gun Co
12th Ind. AA Battalion
44th Ind.AA Gun Co
25th Air Defense AA Regiment
8th Field AF Construction Battalion
31st Air Defense AA Battalion
22nd AA Regiment
21st JAAF AF Bn
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
3rd Ind.AA Gun Co
35th Fld AA Gun Co
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
32nd Field AA Battalion
26th Air Defense AA Regiment
56th Field Artillery Regiment
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
22nd Fld AA Gun Co
2nd RF Gun Battalion
40th Const Co
31st Field AA Battalion
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
30th Fld AA Gun Co
1st Mobile AA Battalion
51st Field AA Battalion
5th RF Gun Battalion
26th Fld AA Gun Co
4th RF Gun Battalion
51st Const Co
25th JNAF AF Unit
23rd Ind.AA Gun Co
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
39th Road Const Co
49th Field AA Battalion
45th Ind.AA Gun Co
12th Ind.AA Gun Co
10th RF Gun Battalion
21st Ind.AA Gun Co
2nd Mobile AA Battalion
23rd Port Unit
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
53rd Field AA Battalion
28th Fld AA Gun Co
31st Fld AA Gun Co
37th Const Co
3rd FF Const Unit
2nd Air Division
3rd Mortar Battalion
54th Field AA Battalion
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
27th Fld AA Gun Co
6th Field AF Construction Battalion
36th Const Co
2nd Ind.AA Gun Co
47th Field AA Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
34th Field AA Battalion
56th Field AA Battalion
41st Field AA Battalion
43rd Const Co
8th RF Gun Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
31st Road Const Co
35th JAAF AF Bn
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
9th RF Gun Battalion
3rd RF Gun Battalion
144th JAAF AF Bn
54th Const Co
32nd Ind.AA Gun Co
43rd Ind.AA Gun Co
Southern Army
41st Air Defense AA Regiment
22nd Port Unit
38th Field AA Battalion
57th Field AA Battalion
50th Field AA Battalion
48th Field Artillery Regiment
41st Air Defense AA Battalion
39th Field AA Battalion
5th Field AF Construction Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
4th Air Defense AA Regiment
6th RF Gun Battalion
4th Naval Construction Battalion
1st Mobile Field Artillery Regiment
20th AA Regiment
45th Road Const Co
6th JNAF AF Unit
13th JAAF AF Bn
12th Air Defense AA Regiment
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
42nd Ind.AA Gun Co
22nd Ind.AA Gun Co
7th Field AF Construction Battalion
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
25th Army
15th Const Co
21st Army


10k AVs...plus probably more 3000 around Dehli and possibly more 3000 around Surat.... he's not going to take Karachi with these forces...he will need lot more!


He got a bloody nose at Multan...let's see if he'll try again or will use the usual method... 3 big units are already advancing northwards from Dehli... and today i recieved at Karachi the first Chindits Bde...[;)]
Now i need to focus on Supplies...i know...i will...i promise.

The goal is to keep the 500k level as long as i can.

God...i love this game![&o]
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RE: LOD IS CROSSED

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

Hmmmm do you not have a Bn off the rail net at 52,11 one unit there and strat mode is a no no

ps I would care to much most of you units are back north of the desert ....arent they....?

Start to think about pulling out the big 4E and whatever 2E bombers you have left they will just eat supply keep a few for harrassment and any low nav trqained or torp sqns you have but the rest its time to go

unfortunately i had no unit at 52,11...however he would simply bomb it to destruction (as he already done before)...
All my "good" units are sitting at Karachi and Hyderabad...

My 4Es are still usefull imho...however i got your point guys..."SAVE SUPPLY"...so i'll keep them as a threat in being and won't use them anymore if not in emercency situation...


Ok, a good turn i'd say. Multan is safe (for the moment)!



Sept 21,22 1942

We airlifted at Multan the 1st Glouchester BN and the Light Owl Bn...
He came with 150 helens escorted by 50 oscars. My Fulmar sacrificed themself tangling with the escort. We lost 11 planes against his 20...however the bomber got through and mouled my troops. But then it came the allied wave...and our 100 bombers (blenheims, Liberators and Wellingtons) completely wiped out what was left of his 4 para-units.
Then he dropped again but this time his transports got intercepted by what was left of my fulmars...8 of them got chewed!
The subsequent shock attack found our guys ready and we wiped them all out!!

On the 22nd my B-17s attacked Dehli...we found 100 fighters on CAP but luckly they were not that effective...we exchanged good blows and we damaged the strip destroying some of them on the ground.

The result of the last bombing campaign is that Rader is now keeping 100 fighters at Dehli, 100 at Surat, 100 at Ahdemabad...all these fighters are not weeping Karachi...which is a damned good news[8D].

The first 60k convoy arrived at Karachi...now we reached the 500k supply level... more 45k are coming within the next 3 days...

Lost sight of his BBs....[&:]

The important news is that we sent our base forces (those who were pushed back from Jodpur) back into their former base and we found some usefull infos about the composition of his Army...


Ground combat at Jodphur (45,14)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 285542 troops, 3314 guns, 3496 vehicles, Assault Value = 10720

Defending force 1104 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 23

Japanese adjusted assault: 8180

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 8180 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


Allied ground losses:
770 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 95 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 27 (26 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 5
Units destroyed 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
43rd Naval Guard Unit
8th Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
48th Engineer Regiment
6th Tank Regiment
44th Naval Guard Unit
38th Division
23rd Tank Regiment
54th Division
17th Indpt Guards Regiment
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
1st Raiding Regiment
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
143rd Infantry Regiment
52nd Division
2nd Raiding Regiment
13th Tank Regiment
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
148th Infantry Regiment
12th Tank Regiment
Guards Tank Division
14th Guards Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
16th Engineer Regiment
4th Division
21st Division
Yokosuka 1st SNLF
16th Recon Regiment
33rd Infantry Regiment
301st Ind.Infantry Battalion
5th Tank Regiment
5th Guards Engineer Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
2nd Mobile Engineer Regiment
53rd Division
33rd Division
144th Infantry Regiment
16th Guards Regiment
4th Guards Division
146th Infantry Regiment
17th Division
7th Tank Regiment
5th Guards Cav Regiment
37th Division
32nd Division
15th Division
51st Recon Regiment
15th Guards Regiment
39th Division
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
Yokosuka 3rd SNLF
19th Ind. Engineer Regiment
55th Engineer Regiment
2nd Mobile Infantry Regiment
61st Infantry Brigade
20th Ind. Engineer Regiment
6th Indpt SNLF Coy
2nd Recon Regiment
1st Tank Regiment
6th Guards Division
5th Division
15th Ind. Engr Rgt /2
55th Const Co
34th Ind.AA Gun Co
29th Fld AA Gun Co
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
13th Ind.AA Gun Co
41st Ind.AA Gun Co
11th RF Gun Battalion
32nd Air Defense AA Battalion
56th Const Co
49th Const Co
48th Road Const Co
35th Const Co
47th Road Const Co
55th Field AA Battalion
1st Air Defense AA Regiment
52nd Const Co
15th JAAF Base Force
7th RF Gun Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
36th Field AA Battalion
48th Field AA Battalion
27th JAAF AF Bn
1st Air Defense AA Battalion
35th Field AA Battalion
53rd Const Co
23rd AA Regiment
21st Air Defense AA Regiment
21st Fld AA Gun Co
1st Ind.AA Gun Co
12th Ind. AA Battalion
44th Ind.AA Gun Co
25th Air Defense AA Regiment
8th Field AF Construction Battalion
31st Air Defense AA Battalion
22nd AA Regiment
21st JAAF AF Bn
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
3rd Ind.AA Gun Co
35th Fld AA Gun Co
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
32nd Field AA Battalion
26th Air Defense AA Regiment
56th Field Artillery Regiment
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
22nd Fld AA Gun Co
2nd RF Gun Battalion
40th Const Co
31st Field AA Battalion
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
30th Fld AA Gun Co
1st Mobile AA Battalion
51st Field AA Battalion
5th RF Gun Battalion
26th Fld AA Gun Co
4th RF Gun Battalion
51st Const Co
25th JNAF AF Unit
23rd Ind.AA Gun Co
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
39th Road Const Co
49th Field AA Battalion
45th Ind.AA Gun Co
12th Ind.AA Gun Co
10th RF Gun Battalion
21st Ind.AA Gun Co
2nd Mobile AA Battalion
23rd Port Unit
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
53rd Field AA Battalion
28th Fld AA Gun Co
31st Fld AA Gun Co
37th Const Co
3rd FF Const Unit
2nd Air Division
3rd Mortar Battalion
54th Field AA Battalion
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
27th Fld AA Gun Co
6th Field AF Construction Battalion
36th Const Co
2nd Ind.AA Gun Co
47th Field AA Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
34th Field AA Battalion
56th Field AA Battalion
41st Field AA Battalion
43rd Const Co
8th RF Gun Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
31st Road Const Co
35th JAAF AF Bn
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
9th RF Gun Battalion
3rd RF Gun Battalion
144th JAAF AF Bn
54th Const Co
32nd Ind.AA Gun Co
43rd Ind.AA Gun Co
Southern Army
41st Air Defense AA Regiment
22nd Port Unit
38th Field AA Battalion
57th Field AA Battalion
50th Field AA Battalion
48th Field Artillery Regiment
41st Air Defense AA Battalion
39th Field AA Battalion
5th Field AF Construction Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
4th Air Defense AA Regiment
6th RF Gun Battalion
4th Naval Construction Battalion
1st Mobile Field Artillery Regiment
20th AA Regiment
45th Road Const Co
6th JNAF AF Unit
13th JAAF AF Bn
12th Air Defense AA Regiment
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
42nd Ind.AA Gun Co
22nd Ind.AA Gun Co
7th Field AF Construction Battalion
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
25th Army
15th Const Co
21st Army


10k AVs...plus probably more 3000 around Dehli and possibly more 3000 around Surat.... he's not going to take Karachi with these forces...he will need lot more!


He got a bloody nose at Multan...let's see if he'll try again or will use the usual method... 3 big units are already advancing northwards from Dehli... and today i recieved at Karachi the first Chindits Bde...[;)]
Now i need to focus on Supplies...i know...i will...i promise.

The goal is to keep the 500k level as long as i can.

God...i love this game![&o]

Life is tough. The sooner you realize that, the easier it will be.
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RE: LOD IS CROSSED

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Sept 23,24,25,26 1942

Days of relative quiet. Rader started sending sweeps against Multan and 300 Helens everyday pounds the base and the LCUs in there. I retired my Fulmars back to Karachi...useless to have them there now. The message to Rader was delivered: "Always escort your bombers cause i could pop up everywhere".

Supplies at Karachi reached the awesome level of 560k. It's incredible that Rader didn't even try to interdict this constant flow...since he crossed we've been able to deliver nearly 250k supplies, 2 full divisions and a motorized Bde without losing a single ship or a/c!

The second Chindit Bde arrived at Karachi. Now we have nearly 8500 AVs there and another full Indian Division is scheldued to arrive (was supposed to spring at Madras) within the next 10 days...

After the upgrades and repairs my CVs are again on the move. 5 of them cause the Saratoga is still repairing her damage (will take 2 more months[:o]). Now they're moving back to Christmas.

At Brisbane we're assembling the PM invasion force. we have collected 1 division and the equivalent of 2 full brigades, 2 base forces, 2 Arty units and some engineers. APs and AKs (fast unload ships) are moving to Oz in order to be used here. Need to wait for my CVs however...

Fuel remains a constant problem in the pacific. Despite my efforts my main bases (Christmas, Pago, Suva, Lungaville and Noumea) are always low on fuel.

We reconned Rabaul during the last days. It's a 9 lvl AF but only 7000 men are spotted there[&:][&:]...Lae seems to have more men and guns than Rabaul...pretty weird i'd say.

Intel keeps on telling me about units moving to Timor and all the other islands of the Banda Sea (southern DEI)...Rader is really reinforcing his perimeter!

In NOPAC everything is quiet. We keep on reinforcing the Aleutinas with supplies, fuel and troops.

In 4 days i'll be again on the "positive" side for what concerns PPs...thank God!

Rader's Air ASW is becoming a problem...every time one of my subs gets spotted by his Helens (in deep waters mind you!) it gets hit and has to get back to PH...i'm trying to avoid chocke points but it seems that Rader has placed a trained ASW Helens unit almost everywhere in the Pacific...

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RE: LOD IS CROSSED

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Sept 23,24,25,26 1942

Days of relative quiet. Rader started sending sweeps against Multan and 300 Helens everyday pounds the base and the LCUs in there. I retired my Fulmars back to Karachi...useless to have them there now. The message to Rader was delivered: "Always escort your bombers cause i could pop up everywhere".

Supplies at Karachi reached the awesome level of 560k. It's incredible that Rader didn't even try to interdict this constant flow...since he crossed we've been able to deliver nearly 250k supplies, 2 full divisions and a motorized Bde without losing a single ship or a/c!

The second Chindit Bde arrived at Karachi. Now we have nearly 8500 AVs there and another full Indian Division is scheldued to arrive (was supposed to spring at Madras) within the next 10 days...

After the upgrades and repairs my CVs are again on the move. 5 of them cause the Saratoga is still repairing her damage (will take 2 more months[:o]). Now they're moving back to Christmas.

At Brisbane we're assembling the PM invasion force. we have collected 1 division and the equivalent of 2 full brigades, 2 base forces, 2 Arty units and some engineers. APs and AKs (fast unload ships) are moving to Oz in order to be used here. Need to wait for my CVs however...

Fuel remains a constant problem in the pacific. Despite my efforts my main bases (Christmas, Pago, Suva, Lungaville and Noumea) are always low on fuel.

We reconned Rabaul during the last days. It's a 9 lvl AF but only 7000 men are spotted there[&:][&:]...Lae seems to have more men and guns than Rabaul...pretty weird i'd say.

Intel keeps on telling me about units moving to Timor and all the other islands of the Banda Sea (southern DEI)...Rader is really reinforcing his perimeter!

In NOPAC everything is quiet. We keep on reinforcing the Aleutinas with supplies, fuel and troops.

In 4 days i'll be again on the "positive" side for what concerns PPs...thank God!

Rader's Air ASW is becoming a problem...every time one of my subs gets spotted by his Helens (in deep waters mind you!) it gets hit and has to get back to PH...i'm trying to avoid chocke points but it seems that Rader has placed a trained ASW Helens unit almost everywhere in the Pacific...


Intel is not always correct. i would not trust the 6000 troops at Rabaul. I have experienced the same too that in a Hex where i know that there are at least 5-6 divisions i only get 3000 reported troops. Not sure if the mode of the units influences that.
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RE: LOD IS CROSSED

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Acutally for that reason i've ordered 4 more days of recon over Rabaul, Lae and PM...just to be sure...[;)]

I know this will show him my growing attention on that particular sector, but i don't wanna experiment no more the bad surprises i got at Wake and Marcus...
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An experienced player like rader will be adept at reading your intentions by various signs - recon, presence of patrol aircraft or subs, the sudden increase or decrease in activity in other sectors, the importance of an area, spidey senses tingling, etc.
 
To a certain extent, you may be telegraphing your intentions enough that rader knows where you're likely to head next, so that he can swiftly mobilize forces to counter or meet the newest threat.
 
That's why deception and feinting is critical to your success.  Try to figure out where he is most afraid of you striking.  Try to feed his feers slowly and believably.  Then strike elsewhere hard and fast.
 
I'm sure you know this, but I was in the mood to type this morning.
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RE: LOD IS CROSSED

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An experienced player like rader will be adept at reading your intentions by various signs - recon, presence of patrol aircraft or subs, the sudden increase or decrease in activity in other sectors, the importance of an area, spidey senses tingling, etc.

To a certain extent, you may be telegraphing your intentions enough that rader knows where you're likely to head next, so that he can swiftly mobilize forces to counter or meet the newest threat.

That's why deception and feinting is critical to your success.  Try to figure out where he is most afraid of you striking.  Try to feed his feers slowly and believably.  Then strike elsewhere hard and fast.

I'm sure you know this, but I was in the mood to type this morning.

Hi CR...thanks.

Well, it's a bit hard now to play deception for the obvious reason that i'm slowly finishing my possible options. With the whole DEI-SRA-MALAYA-BURMA-INDIA in his hands (and, above all, with the allies completely pushed out of these theatres) and with the Bonins-Marcus-Wake so strongly garrisoned, the only options i have are in SOPAC-SWPAC...and Rader knows it.

However, i have another plan. Instead of ignoring the object of my attentions in order to make Rader look elsewhere, i'll try to show him a growing interest in many more areas. This should puzzle Rader in the same way (cause if many areas are under my attentions, he will never know which of them i'm really going to strike) and, at the same time, will give me more infos in order to decide what, when and where to do.

So in the next days we'll start reconning Timor and the southern Mollucches, NG and PM, the Solomons and the Gilberts/Marshalls.

I still have the original plan for Tarawa and i'm almost ready to pull the trigger on it. It will be a small scale plan and i'll use my CVs in cover that will have to pass by in their journey towards Oz. Having Tarawa and Abenama in my hands will give me a strong position in the Gilberts and at the same time will threaten his main bases up in the Marshalls. I won't committ much however. 2 RGTs that will land and will soon go away, substituted by CD guns, Seabees and base forces. I'm not looking for POW camps...[;)]

What d'u guys think about the composition of forces we've found and Jodpur?
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Yet another GreyJoy touch:  Mollucches.
 
As for the size of rader's force at Jodpur, he doesn't have close to enough.  But the sheer size and scope of what he's brought to India is stunning.  So stunning he probably merits a fine by the AE Kangaroo Court.  He also deserves fines for giving you three months to get ready, and for inexplicably failing to close the sea lanes to Karachi yet again.
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RE: LOD IS CROSSED

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Yet another GreyJoy touch:  Mollucches.

As for the size of rader's force at Jodpur, he doesn't have close to enough.  But the sheer size and scope of what he's brought to India is stunning.  So stunning he probably merits a fine by the AE Kangaroo Court.  He also deserves fines for giving you three months to get ready, and for inexplicably failing to close the sea lanes to Karachi yet again.


I think it's better to talk about it when this will all be over...Rader is too competent and too expert not to have valued the consequences of his strategies and of his timings. If you read his AAR about the invasion of the USSR, you can see that he had evaluated everything...i'm sure he has a plan...still don't know what but he has it.

He may well arrive to Karachi, siege the city, leave there 4000 AVs to keep my army blocked and then move away his mighty forces and invade somewhere else...or simply put himself on the defensive and garrison everything...

Don't know...but i'm sure it's too early to say his strategy was wrong
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Could be Operation Fortitude writ large. Instead of the real deal those might be inflatable tanks leading plywood artillery pieces and so on. [X(] [:D]
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Not knowing the disposition of your merchant fleet, I like to use the Euro L (spd 17; capacity 0/7580/550; endurance 14,000); Euro K (spd 14; capacity 0/5600/200; endurance 17,900); and C3-E (spd 17; capacity 0/5750/400; endurance 15,600) to move fuel in addition to TKs and AOs in the eastern Pacific. Why?? They already have some liquid capacity and they are faster than your 12 knot xAKs. You have to do your planning to have them and their escorts able to get to their destination, but be able to return to USA without refueling at their destination.
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Not knowing the disposition of your merchant fleet, I like to use the Euro L (spd 17; capacity 0/7580/550; endurance 14,000); Euro K (spd 14; capacity 0/5600/200; endurance 17,900); and C3-E (spd 17; capacity 0/5750/400; endurance 15,600) to move fuel in addition to TKs and AOs in the eastern Pacific. Why?? They already have some liquid capacity and they are faster than most of the 12 knot xAKs. You have to do your planning to have them and their escorts able to get to their destination, but be able to return to USA without refueling at their destination.

Very usefull NY59! Thanks!

Actually my merchant fleet is a mess...i've been lazy and i always mix different types of merchants...i know i need to reorganize it but every turn there seems to be a more important task to accomplish for them and i never do....
But now the need to have fuel for my upcoming operations will force me to re-organize it all.

I promise i will! and i will follow your precious suggestion

Thanks
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Yet another GreyJoy touch:  Mollucches.

As for the size of rader's force at Jodpur, he doesn't have close to enough.  But the sheer size and scope of what he's brought to India is stunning.  So stunning he probably merits a fine by the AE Kangaroo Court.  He also deserves fines for giving you three months to get ready, and for inexplicably failing to close the sea lanes to Karachi yet again.

anybody ever thought about that with all the time rader put into the game he didn't want it to finish by January 1st '43? (I for one like the defensive war just as much as the offensive one!)

anyway...it doesn't really matter does it?... just felt the need to type as well...
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I have made a list of my early war merchant fleet. Here it is.

Pacific L - spd 12 - Endurance 12,000 - Capacity 3900 - CONVERT to xAP (asap)

Dominion M - spd 13 - Endurance 14,600 - Capacity 5550 - CONVERT to xAP (asap)

C1-A Cargo - spd 14 - Endurance 19,300 - Capacity 4550 - CONVERT to xAP (2/42)

C2 Cargo - spd 16 - Endurance 13,500 - Capacity 5800 - CONVERT to xAP (2/42)

--------------- ALL end up operating from West Coast USA

Euro M - spd 14 - Endurance 12,300 - Capacity 4175 - Remain in IO (Cape Town, Aden, & Abadan)

Dominion L - spd 12 - Endurance 16,800 - Capacity 6400 - Remain in IO

Pacific M - spd 12 - Endurance 6,000 - Capacity 2900 - Remain in IO (Abadan to Karachi)

-------------- My IO merchant fleet

Luckenback - spd 12 - Endurance 16,600 - Capacity 6360 - West Coast

Harriman - spd 12 - Endurance 14,900 - Capacity 5250 - West Coast

Isthmian - spd 12 - Endurance 13,600 - Capacity 4800 - West Coast

Southwest - spd 14 - Endurance 13,200 - Capacity 6410 - West Coast

Hog Island - spd 12 - Endurance 14,700 - Capacity 4900 - West Coast

Transmarine - spd 12 - Endurance 11,000 - Capacity 3200 - West Coast (Convoys to Pearl x2, Kodiak, Christmas)

------------------Slow , but steady Pacific merchant fleet. I have 2 x 25 ship CS Convoys going from San Fran to Pearl with Transmarine carrying supplies. They have lowest Endurance, so operate in eastern Pacific ONLY

C3 - E Cargo - spd 17 - Endurance 15,6000 - Capacity 6150 - West Coast (fuel)

Euro L - spd 17 - Endurance 14,000 - Capacity 8130 - West Coast (fuel)

Euro K - spd 14 - Endurance 17,900 - Capacity 5800 - West coast (fuel)

----------------- My extra xAKs to move fuel

I may have missed some class, but you want to get similar speed in one TF and then Endurance, if possible.

Hope this helps!
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I have made a list of my early war merchant fleet. Here it is.

Pacific L - spd 12 - Endurance 12,000 - Capacity 3900 - CONVERT to xAP (asap)

Dominion M - spd 13 - Endurance 14,600 - Capacity 5550 - CONVERT to xAP (asap)

C1-A Cargo - spd 14 - Endurance 19,300 - Capacity 4550 - CONVERT to xAP (2/42)

C2 Cargo - spd 16 - Endurance 13,500 - Capacity 5800 - CONVERT to xAP (2/42)

--------------- ALL end up operating from West Coast USA

Euro M - spd 14 - Endurance 12,300 - Capacity 4175 - Remain in IO (Cape Town, Aden, & Abadan)

Dominion L - spd 12 - Endurance 16,800 - Capacity 6400 - Remain in IO

Pacific M - spd 12 - Endurance 6,000 - Capacity 2900 - Remain in IO (Abadan to Karachi)

-------------- My IO merchant fleet

Luckenback - spd 12 - Endurance 16,600 - Capacity 6360 - West Coast

Harriman - spd 12 - Endurance 14,900 - Capacity 5250 - West Coast

Isthmian - spd 12 - Endurance 13,600 - Capacity 4800 - West Coast

Southwest - spd 14 - Endurance 13,200 - Capacity 6410 - West Coast

Hog Island - spd 12 - Endurance 14,700 - Capacity 4900 - West Coast

Transmarine - spd 12 - Endurance 11,000 - Capacity 3200 - West Coast (Convoys to Pearl x2, Kodiak, Christmas)

------------------Slow , but steady Pacific merchant fleet. I have 2 x 25 ship CS Convoys going from San Fran to Pearl with Transmarine carrying supplies. They have lowest Endurance, so operate in eastern Pacific ONLY

C3 - E Cargo - spd 17 - Endurance 15,6000 - Capacity 6150 - West Coast (fuel)

Euro L - spd 17 - Endurance 14,000 - Capacity 8130 - West Coast (fuel)

Euro K - spd 14 - Endurance 17,900 - Capacity 5800 - West coast (fuel)

----------------- My extra xAKs to move fuel

I may have missed some class, but you want to get similar speed in one TF and then Endurance, if possible.

Hope this helps!

Do you tuck away all of the classes that convert to APAs?
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Do you tuck away all of the classes that convert to APAs?

Of course!![;)]

I might use them when they are still APs until I can get most of the conversions done by early '42. They go from large port to large port. Many of the Dominion M and Pacific L start in IO and need to get to USA via Cape Town along with a 24 days conversion delay. They don't have the speed and capacity, but all are smaller than 6000 ton and can dock at all those small ports in the beginning. I'd rather have them sunk by KB than the future APAs that will be needed later in the war.
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Actually my merchant fleet is a mess...i've been lazy and i always mix different types of merchants...i know i need to reorganize it but every turn there seems to be a more important task to accomplish for them and i never do....
But now the need to have fuel for my upcoming operations will force me to re-organize it all.

I promise i will! and i will follow your precious suggestion
You should move whatever fuel is in Capetown over to Perth. You can use AK's if you don't have TK's. There is not a limitless amount of fuel there, but anything you move to Perth will be distributed through Australia. Mostly to Sydney. From the West Coast I use the 8k tankers to fill up Hawaii for now. The 12k's I shuttle to Pago Pago, then off to whatever bases you have in the SW Pacific
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Sorry guys...will reply about the merchant fleet later...now there's an important update

sept 27-28 1942

The Air MeatGrinder has started back again over Karachi.

Rader sent 300 A6M3s on sweep, followed by 200 brand new OscarsII and 200 Tojos...

My new spitfires did wonders and so did the p-39s flying at 9k...while my P-40Es got really chewed up...The new P-38F seems to work worse than its precessor of the E model...

Over 2 days of this mess we lost 125 planes while Rader only 205...not even 1-2...[:o]...Tojos seem to be untouchable...

Overall i'm not that happy with these results...we performed defenetly better 2 months ago with worse a/c... Especially my Hurri IIa did worse than the c model...which should not be... While i can say i'm happy with the new P40K...they did really good especially against the A6M3s...

25 pilots KIA and 39 WIA today...but pilots aren't a problem anyway...

However...there isn't much i can do now...have to struggle on and defend till the very last airframe...

My CVs are on the move.

At Rabaul a BB and 2 CS are spotted...i think it's the same TF that used to operate in March between NZ and OZ...BB Mutsu should be the flag ship. will have to pay attention...



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NY59...THANKS! awesome hints! I'll try to set it up right away!
 
JohnDill...yes, i'm already doing it since the beginning (when NY59Giants enlight me about that). Huge convoys of 100k fuel are moving between EC and CT and from CT to Perth...however it takes a lot of time in order to have a decent amount of fuel in Oz...and i need fuel at Christmas, Pago and Suva at the moment...however now i'm working on it! Thanks a lot guys!!
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GreyJoy, your expectations are a victim of your own success here.  Nearly every Allied player would drool, pant, and lust after the kind of results you've been achieving in the air, especially for Scenario Two.  Most Allies players are very decidely on the losing end of the air war in 1942, but you are inflicting terrible punishment on rader.  If he can takes 2:1 losses in the air for weeks or months into the future, so that he ends up winning the campaign, you really can't take the blame - you've done everything possible and performed well in that regard.

But rader can't sustain these losses.  He's got to be chewing his fingernails to the quick.  He's commiting sepuku by waiting so long and then charging into the teeth of well-prepared defenses.
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