Moved to another Patch 06 - Public Beta - Build 1108p3 updated 10 July

[vonTirpitz]

Turn off auto-disband and manually transfer ships in and out of the TF when it reaches port. If you keep the TF alive the TF commander will always be in command of it and you can change missions or whatever ships you want without "paying" to reinstate the officer you want.

ORIGINAL: m10bob

Hello..Dunno if this is possible, but I have a major irk since day one.

When building a combat naval TF, I pay extra to be able to acquire my own TF commanders. (Willis Lee is my favorite BB CO), but once that TF comes back to port, I lose the commander of that TF and am left to re-purchasing my CO's all over again.

Is there a way to make this "loss" or swap optional?

Thank you.

[Lifer]

ORIGINAL: vonTirpitz

Turn off auto-disband and manually transfer ships in and out of the TF when it reaches port. If you keep the TF alive the TF commander will always be in command of it and you can change missions or whatever ships you want without "paying" to reinstate the officer you want.

ORIGINAL: m10bob

Hello..Dunno if this is possible, but I have a major irk since day one.

When building a combat naval TF, I pay extra to be able to acquire my own TF commanders. (Willis Lee is my favorite BB CO), but once that TF comes back to port, I lose the commander of that TF and am left to re-purchasing my CO's all over again.

Is there a way to make this "loss" or swap optional?

Thank you.

I may have done something wrong when I tried this. I transferred my carrier and ships into port for repair/upgrade and left one DD with the TF Cmdr. When the ship came back into service, I could not make my DD TF into an Air Combat TF to transfer the CV into it and when I made a CV TF and transferred the DD into it , the DD TF Cmdr disappeared into the pool.

Greg

[Shellshock]

ORIGINAL: Lifer

I may have done something wrong when I tried this. I transferred my carrier and ships into port for repair/upgrade and left one DD with the TF Cmdr. When the ship came back into service, I could not make my DD TF into an Air Combat TF to transfer the CV into it and when I made a CV TF and transferred the DD into it , the DD TF Cmdr disappeared into the pool.

Greg

In order for it to remain a Air Combat TF it needs to have a least one carrier still in it. Otherwise, if left with just a surface ship, it becomes a surface combat TF. You can rotate all the other carriers out if you want to retain the original commander, but you need to keep at least one.

[vonTirpitz]

Yep. Keep a spare CVE or CVL around to transfer into the TF first if possible otherwise you can just keep one of the original CVs in the TF.

ORIGINAL: Shellshock

ORIGINAL: Lifer

I may have done something wrong when I tried this. I transferred my carrier and ships into port for repair/upgrade and left one DD with the TF Cmdr. When the ship came back into service, I could not make my DD TF into an Air Combat TF to transfer the CV into it and when I made a CV TF and transferred the DD into it , the DD TF Cmdr disappeared into the pool.

Greg

In order for it to remain a Air Combat TF it needs to have a least one carrier still in it. Otherwise, if left with just a surface ship, it becomes a surface combat TF. You can rotate all the other carriers out if you want to retain the original commander, but you need to keep at least one.

And as stated below

ORIGINAL: wpurdom

The work around is to make your existing DD into an escort group. Voila! you can put the CV's into the new group and then can convert to an air group or it will on its own if you do nothing.

Great input wpurdom. I completely forgot about the escort workaround.

[wpurdom]

The work around is to make your existing DD into an escort group. Voila! you can put the CV's into the new group and then can convert to an air group or it will on its own if you do nothing.

[koontz]

Do ive need the previous beta patch ?

[cfulbright]

To get your carrier back into a Surface Combat group, first change the Mission of the SAG to Escort, then you can add CV's back into it.

[Rainer]

Do ive need the previous beta patch ?

I don't think so.
The patches replace the exe file (War in the Pacific Admiral Edition.exe) and the dll (pwsdll.dll), so it should be good to go with the latest (1108p1). No data files are affected with the patches.

EDIT: If you want to make sure you have all data base changes applied load a save, pull down (from within the game) the preferences menue and check the message in the left down corner. There a hint will be seen if data base changes are available or not.

[Nemo121]

Couple of issues using M9.

1.Low level kami attacks again appear much more interceptable. It isn't a clear bug as it was previously but it is something for people to look out for to see if there's a pattern.

2. Kamikaze units set to train for Kamikaze missions -Primary Mission TRAINING, Secondary Mission KAMIKAZE and set at 100 feet do NOT increase their LOW NAVAL strike capability. Instead the improve their strafing capability. Could the code be changed so that units which are kamikazes automatically just train their general experience and low naval skills as those are the ones they use?

3. In a current PBEM the IJAAF has suddenly become incapable of pulling replacement pilots from the pool into units. I have lots of replacement pilots in the pool and I don't think we should be near a pilot limit. I can provide a mid-turn save.


Is it possible to play a game which has run a few turns under M9 using M7? I'm thinking of rolling back to M7 which I found stable... but I don't want to screw any current games up.

[michaelm75au]

ORIGINAL: Nemo121

Couple of issues using M9.

1.Low level kami attacks again appear much more interceptable. It isn't a clear bug as it was previously but it is something for people to look out for to see if there's a pattern.

2. Kamikaze units set to train for Kamikaze missions -Primary Mission TRAINING, Secondary Mission KAMIKAZE and set at 100 feet do NOT increase their LOW NAVAL strike capability. Instead the improve their strafing capability. Could the code be changed so that units which are kamikazes automatically just train their general experience and low naval skills as those are the ones they use?

3. In a current PBEM the IJAAF has suddenly become incapable of pulling replacement pilots from the pool into units. I have lots of replacement pilots in the pool and I don't think we should be near a pilot limit. I can provide a mid-turn save.


Is it possible to play a game which has run a few turns under M9 using M7? I'm thinking of rolling back to M7 which I found stable... but I don't want to screw any current games up.

1. Nothing has been changed in kami attacks since m7
2. Kamikaze set to train Kami should improve skills (general and low level nav bomb). Putting them at 100' is triggering the straffe skill.
3. There was a bug to do with pulling replacements introduced sometime in m7(?), that was corrected as 7a the following day or so. There is a ceiling on the first 3 months of trainees, if the trained replacement pool is empty. These pilots will only come in with exp of very low (below 10 in most cases) but the code promotes these to over 10 EXP due to other limitations in the code. Thus they look more like 4-5 month trained pilots.

m9 save is readable and is playable by m7.

[rev rico]

I'm about to start a new PBEM, should we use the BETA patch?

Bob

[witpqs]

I recommend it. And keep up with new versions as they are released. Opinions may vary, but that's mine! [8D]

[jmalter]

i agree w/ witpqs, Bob.

the beta provides many fixes for probs in the existing game, and introduces lotsa kewl new stuff (such as anti-clockwise air-search patterns) to the UI tool-kit. and if a bug shows up, michealm is ultra-fast to issue a correction.

so i would say, start your new PBEM w/ the current beta, but wait 7-10 days before you & your opponent upgrade to each new release.

[Rainer]

I recommend it. And keep up with new versions as they are released. Opinions may vary, but that's mine!

+1

Although I have to admit I'm playing versus AI.

[rev rico]

And where do I get it? The first page of this thread?

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: rev rico

And where do I get it? The first page of this thread?

Yes. Michael has been replacing the file attached to that first post with the latest as he releases them.

[Zacktar]

ORIGINAL: Rainer

I recommend it. And keep up with new versions as they are released. Opinions may vary, but that's mine!

+1

Although I have to admit I'm playing versus AI.

+1 to this, too. The beta patch series has really improved my enjoyment of the game in all sorts of ways. I don't think I could go back to the "official" version.

[Rekm41]

Does the latest version work with WitPTracker?

[michaelm75au]

Yes. But you need to copy the DLL in the beta2 directory to the tracker install directory.

[CaptBeefheart]

I also am an AI weenie, but have to say the beta is a great improvement over an already good game. I wouldn't go back. Good idea from Jmalter on waiting a few days after each beta update as well if you're in a PBEM.

Cheers,
CC