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RE: BLOODBATH!

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RE: BLOODBATH!

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Ok...you won't believe it....



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RE: BLOODBATH!

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We got 70 pilots KIA, 66 WIA and 40 MIA... don't even wanna wonder how many pilots Rader has lost today...
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RE: BLOODBATH!

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Ok, we still have 200 fighters over Ndani. Feel rather safe.
 
Now we've ordered a night bombing of 48 4Es (we have 100% moonlight tonight) at Chouseul Bay and a daylight bombing of Rennell Island recently conquered by Japanese Paras (it's another level 3 AF...needs to be closed ASAP!)
 
At Tulagi we managed to get to 40k supplies and we now have 550 AVs behind 4 forts...not bad. He'll need to committ more than what he has right now
 
Think the KB will move away...more than 200 bombers lost is probably too much to handle even for Rader's KB. At Tulagi we've formed a screen of 30 PTs[8D]
 
I'll post a couple of combat reports of the last 2 bloody days....
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RE: BLOODBATH!

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 19, 43

KARACHI FIRST -

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Morning Air attack on Karachi , at 40,8

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 45



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1
Hurricane IIc Trop x 37
Kittyhawk III x 6
P-38F Lightning x 1
P-39D Airacobra x 27
P-40K Warhawk x 46


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 2 destroyed





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Morning Air attack on Karachi , at 40,8

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 33



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1
Hurricane IIc Trop x 29
Kittyhawk III x 6
P-38F Lightning x 1
P-39D Airacobra x 21
P-40K Warhawk x 40


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Karachi , at 40,8

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 9



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1
Hurricane IIc Trop x 28
Kittyhawk III x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 18
P-40K Warhawk x 32


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed




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Morning Air attack on Karachi , at 40,8

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 170 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 53 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 36
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 285
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 80
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 244



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1
Hurricane IIc Trop x 23
Kittyhawk III x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 17
P-40K Warhawk x 29


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 7 destroyed, 20 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington Ic: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground
Albacore I: 2 destroyed on ground
Hudson IIIa: 1 destroyed on ground
DC-2: 1 destroyed on ground
Beaufort V: 1 destroyed on ground
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 32



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Morning Air attack on Karachi , at 40,8

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 167 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 53 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 20
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 39
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 47



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1
Hurricane IIc Trop x 19
Kittyhawk III x 4
P-39D Airacobra x 9
P-40K Warhawk x 21


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 16 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
Albacore I: 1 destroyed on ground



Runway hits 2






Then our 2Es bombed Tulagi beachheads
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Morning Air attack on 5th Division, at 114,137 (Tulagi)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 92



Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 14
B-25C Mitchell x 15
B-26 Marauder x 18
B-26B Marauder x 15
P-38G Lightning x 24
F4F-4 Wildcat x 14


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed
B-26B Marauder: 2 damaged
P-38G Lightning: 3 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



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Morning Air attack on 36th Infantry Regiment, at 114,137 (Tulagi)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 157



Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 12
F4F-4 Wildcat x 11


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 4 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



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Sweeps over Ndeni

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Morning Air attack on Ndeni , at 120,143

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 40



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 14
Spitfire Vc Trop x 16
P-39D Airacobra x 26
P-400 Airacobra x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 7
P-40K Warhawk x 16
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18
F4U-1 Corsair x 7


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
13 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 31000 feet *


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Morning Air attack on Karachi , at 40,8

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 18



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1
Hurricane IIc Trop x 27
Kittyhawk III x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 21
P-40K Warhawk x 34


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on Ndeni , at 120,143

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 29



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 14
Spitfire Vc Trop x 15
P-39D Airacobra x 20
P-400 Airacobra x 7
P-40E Warhawk x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 12
F4F-4 Wildcat x 15
F4U-1 Corsair x 5


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed



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Morning Air attack on Ndeni , at 120,143

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 27



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 13
Spitfire Vc Trop x 15
P-39D Airacobra x 15
P-400 Airacobra x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 3
P-40K Warhawk x 11
F4F-4 Wildcat x 12
F4U-1 Corsair x 5


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed



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Morning Air attack on Ndeni , at 120,143

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 223 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 66 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 7



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 13
Spitfire Vc Trop x 15
P-39D Airacobra x 11
P-400 Airacobra x 5
P-40E Warhawk x 3
P-40K Warhawk x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 11
F4U-1 Corsair x 2


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses




Karachi Again....-

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Morning Air attack on Karachi , at 40,8

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 170 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 53 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 42
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 290
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 56
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 201



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1
Hurricane IIc Trop x 21
Kittyhawk III x 3
P-39D Airacobra x 17
P-40K Warhawk x 31


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 4 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed, 19 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
TBF-1 Avenger: 2 destroyed on ground
Wellington Ic: 5 destroyed on ground
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground
C-47 Skytrain: 3 destroyed on ground
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed on ground
Vengeance I: 1 destroyed on ground
Beaufort V: 1 destroyed on ground
Albacore I: 2 destroyed on ground


Allied ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 45
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 96

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Morning Air attack on Karachi , at 40,8

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 170 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 53 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 30
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 45



Allied aircraft
Hurricane I Trop x 2
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1
Hurricane IIc Trop x 21
Kittyhawk III x 3
P-39D Airacobra x 15
P-40K Warhawk x 28


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 8 destroyed, 6 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 3 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane I Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
Albacore I: 1 destroyed on ground



Runway hits 1

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Morning Air attack on Karachi , at 40,8

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 165 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 52 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 20
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 9



Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 1
Buffalo I x 1
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1
Hurricane IIc Trop x 12
Kittyhawk III x 3
P-39D Airacobra x 10
P-40K Warhawk x 21


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 6 destroyed

No Allied losses


Then we started our uncoordinated attacks against the KB...were expensive and fruitless

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Stewart Island at 117,138

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 215 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 85 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 192



Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 15
SBD-3 Dauntless x 15


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 3 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 6 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CV Hiyo



Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Stewart Island at 117,138

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 165 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 65 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 150



Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 18
P-39D Airacobra x 10
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
SBD-3 Dauntless x 16


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-24 Banshee: 6 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 7 destroyed





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Morning Air attack on TF, near Stewart Island at 117,138

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 164 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 65 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 118



Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 12
P-38G Lightning x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-24 Banshee: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CV Junyo



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x A-24 Banshee bombing from 15000 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
THEY ALL MISSED!!!!


SWEEPS again...-

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Morning Air attack on Ndeni , at 120,143

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 32



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 12
Spitfire Vc Trop x 9
P-39D Airacobra x 8
P-400 Airacobra x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 8
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8
F4U-1 Corsair x 1


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed



And then the KB replied
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Afternoon Air attack on Ndeni , at 120,143

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 184 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 68 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 66
B5N1 Kate x 80
B5N2 Kate x 91
D3A1 Val x 130



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 13
Spitfire Vc Trop x 12
P-39D Airacobra x 17
P-400 Airacobra x 37
P-40E Warhawk x 21
P-40K Warhawk x 11
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4
F4U-1 Corsair x 3


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N1 Kate: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged
B5N1 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
B5N2 Kate: 4 destroyed, 6 damaged
D3A1 Val: 13 destroyed, 14 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-400 Airacobra: 1 damaged
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed on ground
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
F4F-4 Wildcat: 4 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed on ground
C-47 Skytrain: 3 destroyed on ground
B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed on ground
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17F Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
xAK Jefferson Myers, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
xAK Delawarean, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Ramillies, Bomb hits 4
BB Revenge, Bomb hits 1
xAK Shooting Star, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK K.I. Luckenbach, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
xAK San Vincente, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Makena, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAK Mahimahi, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Diamond head, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Devonshire, Bomb hits 1
AV Curtiss, Bomb hits 2, on fire
xAK Red Jacket
xAK Mahukona
xAP Duntroon, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Lihue, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Trenton
xAK Sage Brush, Torpedo hits 1
xAP Jalabala, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Ethiopia, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAP Empire Raja



Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 19
Port hits 4



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Afternoon Air attack on Ndeni , at 120,143

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 174 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 65 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 24
B5N2 Kate x 18
D3A1 Val x 42



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 13
Spitfire Vc Trop x 10
P-39D Airacobra x 15
P-400 Airacobra x 34
P-40E Warhawk x 18
P-40K Warhawk x 11
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3
F4U-1 Corsair x 3


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 6 destroyed
D3A1 Val: 18 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed





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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kirakira at 115,139

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9
D3A1 Val x 26



Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Fusto Arosemena, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Alcoa Polaris, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Meigs
xAK Exchange, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage


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Afternoon Air attack on Ndeni , at 120,143

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 157 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 67 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 26



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 12
Spitfire Vc Trop x 8
P-39D Airacobra x 11
P-400 Airacobra x 31
P-40E Warhawk x 14
P-40K Warhawk x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
F4U-1 Corsair x 2


Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 7 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Afternoon Air attack on Ndeni , at 120,143

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 150 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 64 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 18



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 12
Spitfire Vc Trop x 8
P-39D Airacobra x 9
P-400 Airacobra x 26
P-40E Warhawk x 11
P-40K Warhawk x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
F4U-1 Corsair x 2


Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses


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RE: BLOODBATH!

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Jan 21, 22 1943

The KB seems to be retiring towards Truk and not Rabaul...

Japanese DD TFs sunk 6 PTs at Tulagi, while 30 Netties heavily escorted sunk a TF composed by 2 xAKs and an DMS that were moving the heavy equipmment of the 147th Inf Rgt to Tulagi...

The Japs attacked again at Tulagi and again they got a bloody nose. 1-3 and forts didn't go down![:-]

He came with 130 Helens to bomb Tulagi AF...empty again[:)]

We smashed Rennell Island and a couple of night bombing raids over Choiseul Bay destroyed a good number of fighters on the ground[8D]

At Karachi he came back with 300 Tojos on Sweep...again a carnage of hopeless Hurricanes, P-39s and P-40Ks...that bleeding is necessary however...[:o]



Ground combat at Tulagi (114,137)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 54040 troops, 494 guns, 115 vehicles, Assault Value = 1870

Defending force 21096 troops, 391 guns, 569 vehicles, Assault Value = 547

Japanese adjusted assault: 709

Allied adjusted defense: 2350

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4620 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 307 disabled
Non Combat: 24 destroyed, 281 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 19 disabled


Allied ground losses:
326 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 73 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Vehicles lost 49 (5 destroyed, 44 disabled)


Assaulting units:
5th Division
90th Infantry Regiment
52nd Infantry Brigade
38th Division
13th Ind.Mixed Brigade
4th Ind.Mixed Brigade
36th Infantry Regiment
4th Division
Ichiki Det.
2nd Area Army

Defending units:
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
23rd Marine Regiment
1st Marine Raider Battalion
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
145th Infantry Rgt /1
353rd Construction Regiment
804th Engineer Aviation Battalion
16th USN Naval Construction Battalion
34th Aviation Base Force
7th Marine Defense Battalion
97th Field Artillery Battalion
369th Coast AA Regiment
102nd USN Base Force
139th USA Base Force
21st USN Naval Construction Battalion


COM'ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Fighting for surviving

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ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson II
As you remember, on the 1st Jan 1943 140k japanese marched out on Buna, taking the Owen Stanley route.
In 12 days of marching they reached PM in a very good shape, despite having suffered 2 days of bombings by 70 Allied bombers taking off from Cairns.
On the 13th 50k japanese delivered the first fist on the undersupplied and badly distrupted 2nd Aus Corp, composed by the 27th U.S. Division and the 87th NZ Bde, supported by 2 Artillery units. 3 level of fortifications crumbled down on the first assault.
On the 14th the fate of the PM defensors was already written. 13,000 allied are sent to POWs camp in Luzon and 3 Japanese armies were already able to march back towards Buna.

What really surprise me is the fact that Rader was been able to march on one of the possible worst terrain in the whole pacific with the equivalent of 7 Divisions in making 90 miles in less than 2 weeks!...

Are GreyJoy and I the only ones to find this absolutely ridiculous?

What's the solution to this logistical absurdity please anyone?

Other that is than not playing the game?

Roger

I find it ridiculous as well. The trick, however, is to think of a way of limiting it without causing unreasonable restrictions. I still don't have an easy fix in mind, that can safely be applied this late in the AE development cycle (and besides, it isn't my call on whether it gets addressed or not).

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RE: DEPRESSION

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
I would report rader to the Kangaroo Court for marcing 5,000 AV across the Owen Stanleys, but I have a conflict of interest (in that I've been active in GreyJoy's AAR). This is one of those "have you no shame?" moments.

I definately think rader has committed a transgression worthy of the Kangaroo Court, but I can't make a referral due to a conflict of interest.
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RE: Fighting for surviving

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ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson II
As you remember, on the 1st Jan 1943 140k japanese marched out on Buna, taking the Owen Stanley route.
In 12 days of marching they reached PM in a very good shape, despite having suffered 2 days of bombings by 70 Allied bombers taking off from Cairns.
On the 13th 50k japanese delivered the first fist on the undersupplied and badly distrupted 2nd Aus Corp, composed by the 27th U.S. Division and the 87th NZ Bde, supported by 2 Artillery units. 3 level of fortifications crumbled down on the first assault.
On the 14th the fate of the PM defensors was already written. 13,000 allied are sent to POWs camp in Luzon and 3 Japanese armies were already able to march back towards Buna.

What really surprise me is the fact that Rader was been able to march on one of the possible worst terrain in the whole pacific with the equivalent of 7 Divisions in making 90 miles in less than 2 weeks!...

Are GreyJoy and I the only ones to find this absolutely ridiculous?

What's the solution to this logistical absurdity please anyone?

Other that is than not playing the game?

Roger


I agree.

Marching 7+ infantry divisions, 3 Army HQs, and 1 Area Army HQ overland from Buna to PM is gamey as hell.

Furthermore, where is your oppponent getting all these divisions? Is he simply ignoring the garrison requirements in India and China?

I think you are wrong to call this one gamey. There are about 100 places on the map where the same thing can be done by either player. (Northern OZ comes to mind where a Japanese player can land at a level 0 port and then conduct an overland campaign to take Darwin over 400 miles of dirt track.) Unfortunately, this is impossible to regulate and to call Rader gamey here is to implicate that the Allied or Japanese player won't do it elsewhere-when we all do. I think most players tend to accept the balky supply system at face value and don't get into pissing matches when it does or does not work for them. Rader gets the benefit here and Greyjoy will get the same benefit elsewhere.
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It's been a busy sunday with lots of turns (and what turns they were!)...i'd have many many things to say about the actual situation in the Solomons (12 units already left PM hex and are now on the Owen Stanley again) but i have to quit now...too tired...tomorrow will try to make a comprehensive report of the general situation in all the fronts...
 
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Wow! Look at those Kate and Val losses. As this is WITP Scenario 2 it's going to takes days, maybe even a full week to fully reload the KB again! Seriously, I wonder how the KB's "quality of pilot" is fairing?
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That last turn is why your CV's need to come out and fight, he is using the KB aganist land bases way to much, and it will cost hime if you attack. Do not be afraid of the KB at this point in the game.

If your CV's where any where close the KB may have gone down on the bottom in one turn.
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Are GreyJoy and I the only ones to find this absolutely ridiculous?

What's the solution to this logistical absurdity please anyone?

Other that is than not playing the game?

Roger


I agree.

Marching 7+ infantry divisions, 3 Army HQs, and 1 Area Army HQ overland from Buna to PM is gamey as hell.

Furthermore, where is your oppponent getting all these divisions? Is he simply ignoring the garrison requirements in India and China?

I think you are wrong to call this one gamey. There are about 100 places on the map where the same thing can be done by either player. (Northern OZ comes to mind where a Japanese player can land at a level 0 port and then conduct an overland campaign to take Darwin over 400 miles of dirt track.) Unfortunately, this is impossible to regulate and to call Rader gamey here is to implicate that the Allied or Japanese player won't do it elsewhere-when we all do. I think most players tend to accept the balky supply system at face value and don't get into pissing matches when it does or does not work for them. Rader gets the benefit here and Greyjoy will get the same benefit elsewhere.


Anyone who knows anything about WWII knows it was impossible, in RL, to march 7+ divisions plus 4 HQs overland from Buna to Port Moresby.

If it was impossible in RL, but the game allows it, the tactic is gamey.

Whatever the in-game supply situation is in Burma or Northern Australia has no bearing on the fact that what Rader did could not have been done in RL, and should not be done in AE.
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Ok...you won't believe it....



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Good job!!
Too bad your CVs are out of position. Situations like this one are the moment to strike back.
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That last turn is why your CV's need to come out and fight, he is using the KB aganist land bases way to much, and it will cost hime if you attack. Do not be afraid of the KB at this point in the game.

If your CV's where any where close the KB may have gone down on the bottom in one turn.

I know Zeta...but i needed them to R&R and upgrade...i chose the worst possible moment to do that...i know [:(]
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I find it ridiculous as well. The trick, however, is to think of a way of limiting it without causing unreasonable restrictions. I still don't have an easy fix in mind, that can safely be applied this late in the AE development cycle (and besides, it isn't my call on whether it gets addressed or not).

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Andrew, I just opened a thread in the mod section to discuss a solution for the OS issue
(and possibly other map locations), appretiate if you have a look. Its just an idea, don´t
know if its possible.

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Another bloody turn!

Jan 23, 24 1942

The KB seems to be at Truk, while a strong SCTF (with BBs and CAs) lingers at Shortland.

We moved the Cactus force back to Lunga again. There were no enemy ships approaching so our SDBs and Torpedo bombers relaxed. Fighters haven't time to do so however.
Rader came in force with several sweeps (at least 150 modern fighters - Tojos and A6M3s) over Tulagi, followed by 160 Helens heavily escorted.
Our Cactus Force took off from Handerson and engaged several battles, giving and taking.
The main sweeping base for his fighters (Tojos in particularly) is Chouseul Bay, so we decided to sweep the base with 10 P-38Gs and then bomb the hell out of it with my 4Es...
The mission was a complete success!!! 150 enemy planes reported destroyed on the ground and the AF is reported closed for any operation![:D]
We're pushing them back!!!!!!![&o]
Our losses are pretty high, but not unsustainable.
We have more forces coming to the theatre...
Tomorrow we'll naval bomb Tulagi again, while our bombers will attack Russell Island...just to be sure that that damned AF remains closed.
At the same time more engeneers are being transfered at Tulagi, along with a US Corp HQ.
More 7k supplies are unloading in these hours at Tulagi, while his troops remain cut out of any communication line
Soon he's going to have again at hand all the divisions that conquered PM so i need to reinforce my positions now!

P-38s on Sweep did wonders, even at 15 hexes of distance (with drop tanks). I will start to use them offensively[8D].

Now he'll probably come for Handerson Field. This time i'll stand and fight cause he should have less planes able for sweeps (considering the Choiseul bay debacle of the last turn)

Let's see if i can hurt him again

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Morning Air attack on Choiseul Bay , at 111,132

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 108 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 47



Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 12
B-17E Fortress x 12
B-17F Fortress x 12
B-24D Liberator x 34


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 6 destroyed on ground
D3A1 Val: 30 destroyed on ground
E13A1 Jake: 7 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled



Airbase hits 38
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 74


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The second day...

Morning Air attack on Choiseul Bay , at 111,132

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 123 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
A6M3 Zero x 16
A6M3a Zero x 7
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 25



Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 5
B-17E Fortress x 6
B-17F Fortress x 9
B-24D Liberator x 24


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 4 damaged
A6M3a Zero: 24 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 15 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 3 destroyed on ground
E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed on ground
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 4 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 47
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