Cost too much?

[jomni]

ORIGINAL: flybynight

Speaking of over charging.. Garys war in the East. $80 bucks? I played Garys war of the world, it was ok but not awesome (again not worth the price I though) .. hope he made war in the east worth 80 bucks!!

It is worth it...
...if you're into deep stuff
...and losing the war as Germany [:D]

[flybynight]

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and lol "losing the war as Germany" sounds just like HOI 1/2/3

I must admit I have found it funny, some ppl say the 40 bucks = a weeks worth of gas, someone even mentioned a table dance.. hmmm LOL
Using 1980's values for todays values...

But what it comes down to for me is time spent per money spent, This super sucky economy these last few years, and the fact I might just be a grumpy old gammer but ya I have spent more on crapper games than this one over the years, but also latly thanks to the digital age I found under $10 Games I spend hours on and want to go back and play.

I still have hope Panzer in a patch or two will make it where I want to play a lot, but after the last few nights really trying to get into it, and playing side by side to OG, I am just not seeing much replay value
Also hope they don't go the IOH 3 route, and offer an expanision(s) thats really just a patch!

[JWW]

At this point I don't think anyone really cares if you like the game or not.

[HansHafen]

I think all the too expensive comments are coming from socialists. They are used to getting stuff for free or at cost. They probably want us to send em some money for their opinions too!

The only criticism the guy could come up with is that the sprites don't change direction? Really? That's all? It ruined the game for him! Hahahaha...

Did he notice the addition that of the broad front attack? Lowering the initiative rating of the defender in such a situation?

I disagree, I like the game and the price is fair. You had plenty of heads up about what this game was going to be. You had plenty of time to ask for features. You had plenty of time to influence the game or ask a question. If changing directions of the sprites was soooo important, why didn't that issue get raised pre-release?

You have to pay people money for what they procduce so they can support themselves and continue to make games we like.

If you are so concerned with your 40.00, why didn't you wait to get some reviews of the finished product before you bought? I know how you value your money, so it seems odd that you would spend it so flippantly without getting assurances from people who have already bought and played it. That seems like a no brainer to me for someone as careful as y'all about getting value for your money. Might I suggest that you wait until after release of these games and get some feedback on them before you purchase. You can play one of the many 10.00 games you have purchased from satan...I mean Steam while you wait for the money saving reviews.

If you don't have the money to lose, don't go gambling. If you do go gambling, understand that you may lose money. If you lose money, don't complain about it. If the game is too expensive for you, don't buy it. I understand the complaints about cost, I just don't like the attitude that comes with it and how it is expressed. These guys worked hard to produce the best product they could and for you guys to be rude to them is disrespectful. I applaud their effort, recognize they may want to change some things, and encourage them going forward.

[JudgeDredd]

^^ And at last it seems someone wants the thread closed? WTF has being a socialist got to do with this? So every socialist is like this guy or the OP?
 
And you "don't like the attitude that comes with it (saying it's too expensive) and how it's expressed." but it's ok for you to say everyone who doesn't like the cost is a socialist? Really??
 
Get a grip...honestly. [8|] Keep it off politics.
 
 
re the cost of a game and enjoyment....
 
About a year ago I bought Plants vs Zombies for (I think £3 - or £6 - can't remember). As it stands, I have about 100 hours on it and replayed it time and time again even though there is no difference from one time to the next that I could see. Now that for me was value for money. But does it mean all the other games that I bought and played were crap in comparison because I didn't get the same playability out of them? Nope. I bought the latest Medal of Honour game on the Steam sale not that long agao and got less than 5 hours out the single player game...was it a waste of money or any less fun than Plants vs Zombies? Nope.
 
Every game and every price has to be judged on it's merits and your own personal situation and personal view. As I said above though, putting that across a certain way is paramount and the way it's been put across initially is like a belisha beacon to all the wrong sorts (including people that think being a socialist is the only kind of person who complains about the cost of a game because they get everything for free - apparently)

[Visery]

So I'm a comie scum because I find the $40 price to be too steep?? Now I know why wargaming is a niche market.

[PirateJock]

I think all the too expensive comments are coming from socialists.

Brilliant [8|]

[IainMcNeil]

Keep it polite or this will get locked. Final warning. There is no problem if peope think the game is too expensive - it's entirely down to them. Everyone has their opinion. We just don't have to agree with it!

[jjoshua]

Wow...

Haven't read the threads for a few days, and somehow, some where we went from price of game comments to communism. Not exactly sure how socialism was introduced in the discussion.

ones man pleasure in the game is anothers aggravation I guess.

By the way...I don't think calling the OP a socialist is necessary...not cool way to go.

I'm sure the price will go down sometime in the future, will probably have to wait a long while, but by then maybe those who are torked about the price, will find the game up to the level they expected. For me, I find it very refreshing and well thought out.

Don't like the price....will have to wait for a sale or some promo down the road; as for me....not regretting buying it the day it came out.

: < )

[JWW]

ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil

Keep it polite or this will get locked. Final warning. There is no problem if peope think the game is too expensive - it's entirely down to them. Everyone has their opinion. We just don't have to agree with it!

I would think the repetition of the complaints by the two (one?) characters involved is enough to lock the thread. They (he?) have made their (his?) point over and over.

For the record, 'too expensive' is kind of a silly argument. Things cost what the market will bear. I don't like the price of some Matrix games myself. I wish PC cost $5, or better yet, was a free download. Or better yet I wish I could get a tax deduction for wargame purchases. (So, Matrix, why haven't didn't you apply for some stimulus money?) But what is the point of beating that topic up over and over again by the two (one?) posters if it isn't trolling? And that is my opinion.

[Hertston]

ORIGINAL: flybynight

Speaking of over charging.. Garys war in the East. $80 bucks? I played Garys war of the world, it was ok but not awesome (again not worth the price I though) .. hope he made war in the east worth 80 bucks!!

Not so much apples and oranges as, well..

Did you know the guy who designed this;



and this;



also designed this...



and, indeed, this...

[Greybriar]

ORIGINAL: Visery

Is there a reason why this game cost so much? The graphics are terrible and the production value is a joke with static units that doesn't even have any animations what so ever! While I agree that gameplay is great, but this is game is a line by line remake of Panzer General. How hard can it be?

Come'on guys, $40 for this game is just greedy. If you're going to charge full price for a clone then at least bring the graphics up to date. That or release this game on Steam so Valve can put on sale for $10 or something.

A thought just occurred to me: Did you complain that the cost was too low when Rudankort offered PG Forever free of charge to anyone who wanted it? I didn't think so. [8|]

[flybynight]

ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

WTF has being a socialist got to do with this? So every socialist is like this guy or the OP?

Err thanks and wow.. just wow.. the whole socialist thing is so funny but so sad on so many levels at the same time!
Hmmm maybe now I know why I really like OG so much.. nice open source community there where you can toss out ideas and patch ideas and such and not get your head taken off.. here... be it for a few nice objective people... its not so nice

[JWW]

ORIGINAL: flybynight

ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

WTF has being a socialist got to do with this? So every socialist is like this guy or the OP?

Err thanks and wow.. just wow.. the whole socialist thing is so funny but so sad on so many levels at the same time!
Hmmm maybe now I know why I really like OG so much.. nice open source community there where you can toss out ideas and patch ideas and such and not get your head taken off.. here... be it for a few nice objective people... its not so nice

Then go play OG. Everyone here has heard repeatedly how you feel about PC and OG. Stop trolling.

[IainMcNeil]

Ok locking this up as its not very productive and just seems to be getting everyone upset. We really would like the OG community to have a look at the game but there is not much to be achieved by complaining about the price.