Burma Road overland supply

[Strike502]

What base in Burma is considered the starting point of the Burma trail? And do the overland supply system rules work on it?

[Blackhorse]

To Tsuyung from Rangoon -- if there is a clear road/rail path, Tsuyung gets an extra 500 supplies/day.

Page 254 in the manual. The manual (wrongly) states that you can create a path between Ledo and Tsuyung. But there is no road from Ledo to China, so no 'free' supply.

[Strike502]

Found it in the manual. Thank you, but can you use the push / pull supply system to force more supply into china?

[USSAmerica]

You can if you closely manage this supply "pump" into China.

[dr.hal]

I have a related question, I have been told that the base at Tsuyung would indicate with words in the base information screen whether or not the Burma Road is open or not.... however in my current game, there is not such indication and I'm in late February '42. The Japs under the guidance of Paul have recently taken Pegu, does this cut the trail? I still have contact through Prome, will that keep it open? How come Tsuyung does not indicate things one way or the other? What am I missing? Thanks... Hal

[Rainer]

Tsuyung would indicate with words in the base information screen whether or not the Burma Road is open or not....

Only when using the betas (but I do not know which beta introduced this feature).

[Strike502]

Nice one Drhal. And thanks for my queston

[dr.hal]

Rainer, Thanks... I'm using the latest beta and I still don't get any indication on the Tsuyung base screen, what am I missing? Anyone? Hal

[dekwik]

take a look on the Rangoon base screen. It should tell you there (bottom left i think)that the Burma Road is open. I don't think it shows on Tsuyung.

[Rainer]

take a look on the Rangoon base screen. It should tell you there (bottom left i think)that the Burma Road is open. I don't think it shows on Tsuyung.

Not Rangoon. It shows up in Tsuyung (lower left corner).
If you don't see that (and using one of the latest betas) is simply means Burma Road is blocked.

[dr.hal]

Good screen capture Rainer, thanks. I have my game open and the base info open and it says nothing.... AND.... the road is open, the Japanese only occupy Pegu, the road to Prome and thus Mandalay is wide open.....not a nip in sight! And my opponent and I are both using the latest beta test patch... And you are right, I've read in a number of locations that the indication is in Tsuyung, not Rangoon. So I still don't know what is wrong... sigh! There was no indication at all LONG before the Japanese got into Pegu either... Maybe some of the gods don't like me...

[dr.hal]

I don't know if this makes a difference, but I just increased the "Supplies Required" tab to a max of 25000+.... Maybe that might do it? Also I see in your screen capture Rainer that you have "No" in yellow beside a number of factors, I don't have that either, what does the "No" mean (besides the obvious "no")???

[Herrbear]

ORIGINAL: dr.hal

I don't know if this makes a difference, but I just increased the "Supplies Required" tab to a max of 25000+.... Maybe that might do it? Also I see in your screen capture Rainer that you have "No" in yellow beside a number of factors, I don't have that either, what does the "No" mean (besides the obvious "no")???

Again, this is a feature in the current beta update. It means that the base is not stockpiling supplies, oil, resources or fuel.

[dr.hal]

Well it looks like I"m wasting readers time, as Paul says we are not using the latest beta, thus I shouldn't see these features.... sorry for the confusion... Hal

[Strike502]

ok, I'm not using the beta patches. Only the last official patch. What is the last beta and what's it called so I know I'm getting the last one avail.

[Lecivius]

Last beta can be found in the tech support forum, on the 1st post.  MichealM continually updates it, so you need to look through the entire thread to see what's been done/added/changed.

[adarbrauner]

Hello. On the same topic, if I don't see "Burma road is open" in the Tsuyung descriptive window, as per screenshots attached, so then this means that it's closed, right (I'm playing Japan, but I've checked in the Allied screen)?

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: dr.hal

Well it looks like I"m wasting readers time, as Paul says we are not using the latest beta, thus I shouldn't see these features.... sorry for the confusion... Hal

Pegu could be a problem too - the rail line to Mandalay runs through there and that may be the only route the AI recognizes as the Burma road in lower Burma.
The first class road running north from Rangoon should be good enough to flow regular supply, but the special rule for the extra 500 daily supply may be more restrictive of routing.

Do NOT stockpile supply at Tsuyung - it will delay its arrival in China and the Japanese might capture it all.
To operate the supply pump, set your first draw of +25,000 at Mandalay and when most of the supply has left Rangoon, set the next supply draw at Lashio to +25K and then dial the Mandalay one back to 0. Continue sequentially every base or two. From Tsuyung to Chungking the supply demand of the hungry Chinese masses may be enough to pull all the supply down.

[John B.]

It seems to me that I was told at some point that Ramree island could also get supply to China even if Burma was occupied. I took it in my current game and (a) something was sucking a lot of supply from it and (b) China started getting more supply. It's also my understanding that this is different than the Burma Road.

Also, did anyone ever figure out the minimum amount of supply China should strive for each day just to keep body and soul together?

[rustysi]

Ramree island could also get supply to China even if Burma was occupied.

If that's true sounds like something was overlooked. Supply should not be able to flow in that case.

Also, did anyone ever figure out the minimum amount of supply China should strive for each day just to keep body and soul together?

I imagine this would vary based on ops that occur within China. My philosophy would be to get as much as I can in there at all times. If a glut should occur (which I doubt) then I could back off a bit.