Hiwis and 1.05

Gary Grigsby’s War in the East: The German-Soviet War 1941-1945 is a turn-based World War II strategy game stretching across the entire Eastern Front. Gamers can engage in an epic campaign, including division-sized battles with realistic and historical terrain, weather, orders of battle, logistics and combat results.

The critically and fan-acclaimed Eastern Front mega-game Gary Grigsby’s War in the East just got bigger and better with Gary Grigsby’s War in the East: Don to the Danube! This expansion to the award-winning War in the East comes with a wide array of later war scenarios ranging from short but intense 6 turn bouts like the Battle for Kharkov (1942) to immense 37-turn engagements taking place across multiple nations like Drama on the Danube (Summer 1944 – Spring 1945).

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They may have had Osttruppen attached/assigned, but, Hiwis were not officially sanctioned. In the NARA docs, a clear distinction is made between the Kriegsgliederung for units serving in the East and West - units in the West were not officially authorized Hiwi. Did some units bring their Hiwi with them, when they were sent to the West for refit? Maybe. I've not found any definitive documentation on this, but I do know that most units in the West were authorized Osttruppen - mostly company-sized units, with some battalions, and a few regiment-sized units - and these units were armed - and surrendered en-masse at the first opportunity after the Allies landed.

The Iststärke of Heeresgruppe D dated 24 July 1944 is somewhat illuminating on this subject. Incidentally, Hiwis in this report seem to merge into Osttruppen figures in others. Someone may not have got the memo one suspects.
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The Baltic states units are as seperate as Bulgaria etc. If you have Bulgarian squads you can have Estonian . BTW some of these units became Divisions...

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The way it is organized gives me a headache. If it was a simple listing of the OOB of Blue, I could study it in more detail. I never played OCS so that listing looks like a jumbled word search in a massive wall of text. Brad is correct in that kampfgruppes are not separate units in the OOB since they almost always belonged to larger organizations that are in-game. I wouldn't mind taking a look at that list if someone could make it more readable.

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