Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
Excellent and timely response to the German moves. The cav coming out of the Crimea in particular is a great move.
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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
ORIGINAL: Klydon
Excellent and timely response to the German moves. The cav coming out of the Crimea in particular is a great move.
I thank you, sir.
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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
TURN 11 - NORTH
Carnage continues to make a slow grinding advance in the north with his infantry. The Panzers, however, appear to have all gone south.

Carnage continues to make a slow grinding advance in the north with his infantry. The Panzers, however, appear to have all gone south.

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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
TURN 11 - CENTER
In the center, we continue to build our Moscow defenses. No major breakthroughs this turn.

In the center, we continue to build our Moscow defenses. No major breakthroughs this turn.

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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
TURN 11 - SOUTH
In the south, carnage has been forced to react to my cavalry probe from the Crimea. I have pulled the cavalry formations back to safety, but Carnage will now need to allocate troops to block a repeat of this move.
All industry has now been evacuated from the Stalino area and work on the evacuation of Kharkov is well underway.

In the south, carnage has been forced to react to my cavalry probe from the Crimea. I have pulled the cavalry formations back to safety, but Carnage will now need to allocate troops to block a repeat of this move.
All industry has now been evacuated from the Stalino area and work on the evacuation of Kharkov is well underway.

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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
TURN 12 - FRONT
No major changes this turn. Work continues on the following tasks:
1. Beefing up the key sectors with reserves as they arrive by train.
2. Evacuating industry, primarily in the south, where the enemy appears to have concentrated the bulk of their mobile forces.
3. Building SU attachments - a mix of engineer, artillery, AT and Tank at the moment.
4. Reorganizing the Soviet Air Force with a special focus on upgrading my transports and moving VVS units closer to the front line, as well as adding modern fighters and every available IL2 to the force mix.
5. Making senior appointment changes whenever AP totals permit.

No major changes this turn. Work continues on the following tasks:
1. Beefing up the key sectors with reserves as they arrive by train.
2. Evacuating industry, primarily in the south, where the enemy appears to have concentrated the bulk of their mobile forces.
3. Building SU attachments - a mix of engineer, artillery, AT and Tank at the moment.
4. Reorganizing the Soviet Air Force with a special focus on upgrading my transports and moving VVS units closer to the front line, as well as adding modern fighters and every available IL2 to the force mix.
5. Making senior appointment changes whenever AP totals permit.

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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
TURN 13 - FRONT
The Axis continue to grind forward in the north and center. In the south, the situation is more threatening and it is now apparent that this is where the main Axis effort is being made.

The Axis continue to grind forward in the north and center. In the south, the situation is more threatening and it is now apparent that this is where the main Axis effort is being made.

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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
TURN 13 - NORTH
A series of limited Axis attacks pushes the Soviet line back 1-2 hexes in places, but the line still holds.

A series of limited Axis attacks pushes the Soviet line back 1-2 hexes in places, but the line still holds.

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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
TURN 13 - CENTER
The Axis make one major push east from Bryansk and I pull back my front to shorten the line, providing new reserves for both the Moscow and Stalino sectors.

The Axis make one major push east from Bryansk and I pull back my front to shorten the line, providing new reserves for both the Moscow and Stalino sectors.

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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
TURN 13 - SW
Showing the pull back toward Kursk. 50% of the Kursk-Kharkov industry has already been evacuated.

Showing the pull back toward Kursk. 50% of the Kursk-Kharkov industry has already been evacuated.

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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
TURN 13 - SOUTH
An empty Stalino, stripped of all industry, falls to a bold Axis thrust, but I am able to temporarily pocket one Pz Div. I am urgently moving fresh forces south to try and hold Rostov and Kharkov.

An empty Stalino, stripped of all industry, falls to a bold Axis thrust, but I am able to temporarily pocket one Pz Div. I am urgently moving fresh forces south to try and hold Rostov and Kharkov.

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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
TURN 13 - CRIMEA
A concerted Axis push breaks in to the Crimea - where do they find all the Pz Divs from? I pull back everything I can to my second line of defense.

A concerted Axis push breaks in to the Crimea - where do they find all the Pz Divs from? I pull back everything I can to my second line of defense.

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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
TURN 15 - FRONT
Not a lot happened on Turn 14, which explains the massive effort by the Axis on Turn 15.
Another double envelopment was attempted but the pincers were arguably too far apart. Whether or not the effort was too ambitious can't be judged until next turn - it depends on whether the Axis forces have the supply and stamina for another pincer move.
Some industry was lost in the center, although the bulk of it had been evacuated. Rostov is cleaned out, Voronezh about 40% and the evacuation of Tula has commenced.

Not a lot happened on Turn 14, which explains the massive effort by the Axis on Turn 15.
Another double envelopment was attempted but the pincers were arguably too far apart. Whether or not the effort was too ambitious can't be judged until next turn - it depends on whether the Axis forces have the supply and stamina for another pincer move.
Some industry was lost in the center, although the bulk of it had been evacuated. Rostov is cleaned out, Voronezh about 40% and the evacuation of Tula has commenced.

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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
How come you can do professional looking graphics when all I can do is cr#p squiggles demonstrating why I was always bottom of the class at art? Very impressive, as your defence has been.
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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
ORIGINAL: sillyflower
How come you can do professional looking graphics when all I can do is cr#p squiggles demonstrating why I was always bottom of the class at art? Very impressive, as your defence has been.
Thanks
I do a lot of graphics work on the job, mainly for software interface mock-ups and conference presentations etc.
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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
TURN 16 - FRONT
Not a huge amount of movement this turn.
Carnage is mopping up the stragglers but I still have stay-behinds in most of the cities he has bypassed, so those should delay much of his infantry for another turn.
A major assault on Sevastopol is underway and I am curious to see whether he continues his southern advance or switches the effort elsewhere. A big Axis drive in the south may create good opportunities for me come the blizzard.
Patched to Beta 1.05.18. I have no idea what effects that will have overall, but as I have read that things such as the Lvov pocket (a-historical c**p, IMO) have not changed, I don't anticipate a tremendous difference.

Not a huge amount of movement this turn.
Carnage is mopping up the stragglers but I still have stay-behinds in most of the cities he has bypassed, so those should delay much of his infantry for another turn.
A major assault on Sevastopol is underway and I am curious to see whether he continues his southern advance or switches the effort elsewhere. A big Axis drive in the south may create good opportunities for me come the blizzard.
Patched to Beta 1.05.18. I have no idea what effects that will have overall, but as I have read that things such as the Lvov pocket (a-historical c**p, IMO) have not changed, I don't anticipate a tremendous difference.

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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
To be honest, there is going to be a blood bath in the south in December. Could be a bloodbath everywhere for that matter perhaps.
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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
ORIGINAL: Klydon
To be honest, there is going to be a blood bath in the south in December. Could be a bloodbath everywhere for that matter perhaps.
Blood. Give me blood! Wuhhawhawhawhawhaw...
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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
Development of the Operational Situation - Turns 07 to 16.


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RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus)
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SUMMARY OF A CURRENT APPRECIATION OF THE MILITARY SITUATION
Prepared by the Red Army Chiefs of Staff for the STAVKA
09 October, 1941
OVERVIEW OF CURRENT SITUATION
The enemy has shown improved focus and coordination, effecting aggressive operations in the south to seize the Don-bass and threaten Tula, Voronezh and Rostov. In the north and centre, enemy progress has been much more limited.
LAND FORCES AND OPERATIONS
North
We continue to defend Leningrad with concentric lines of entrenchments in great depth. Novgorod has fallen, but the feared 'right hook' has failed to develop, most likely as a result of all enemy armoured forces being diverted to AGS.
Center
The enemy has seized Vyazma before the arrival of the mud, meaning that a winter push on Moscow is a real possibility. Events in the south must not be allowed to distract us from the strategic imperative of securing the capitol.
South
The enemy has continued to exploit the strategic surprise achieved in this sector with thrusts to the extreme south and into the Crimea. As predicted, he now appears to be at risk of becoming over-extended and he may be vulnerable to a counter-offensive on the flank of his southern salient, even in the event of a breakthrough into the northern Caucasus region. Planning for such an eventuality has commenced, being assigned the temporary code name 'Operation Moon'.
AIR FORCES AND OPERATIONS
Our air force continues to conduct only limited operations, primarily resupply and partisan supply.
NAVAL FORCES AND OPERATIONS
Aside from mine warfare, no naval operations have been conducted during the period.
INDUSTRIAL
The enemy's accelerated southern advance has captured some portions of our industry, but evacuation was already well underway in most cases, the rejuvenation of our productive capacity in the east should be assured.
INTELLIGENCE
We currently have very limited intelligence on enemy intentions and dispositions. Air reconnaissance is not yet effective.
PARTISAN OPERATIONS
Partisan operations have commenced at several points behind AGC, facilitated by the concentration of all available Red Air Force VVS units in the Moscow area.
ENEMY CAPABILITIES AND LIKELY INTENTIONS
Prisoner interrogations indicate that the enemy's armoured forces are suffering from supply shortages and the effects of attrition. However, they will resupply and refit during the Rasputitsa and are likely to be deployed in one of two modes:
A. A pincer movement directed at Moscow.
B. A southern thrust that may either swing north towards Moscow (least likely route) or south to cut off the Kuban (most likely route). A drive on Stalingrad is also possible, but this would almost certainly be suicidal.
PROJECTED SITUATION +4 WEEKS
North
Leningrad and environs will continue to hold.
Center
Moscow will be under severe threat of encirclement (40% probability).
South
The Kuban and northern Caucasus will have fallen (80% probability).
LONG TERM PROJECTIONS +20 WEEKS
Our winter counter offensive will have trapped significant Axis forces in the south, or forced them back to the west of Rostov at a minimum. Smaller gains in the center will have eased the pressure on Moscow.
Signed: Zhukov
SUMMARY OF A CURRENT APPRECIATION OF THE MILITARY SITUATION
Prepared by the Red Army Chiefs of Staff for the STAVKA
09 October, 1941
OVERVIEW OF CURRENT SITUATION
The enemy has shown improved focus and coordination, effecting aggressive operations in the south to seize the Don-bass and threaten Tula, Voronezh and Rostov. In the north and centre, enemy progress has been much more limited.
LAND FORCES AND OPERATIONS
North
We continue to defend Leningrad with concentric lines of entrenchments in great depth. Novgorod has fallen, but the feared 'right hook' has failed to develop, most likely as a result of all enemy armoured forces being diverted to AGS.
Center
The enemy has seized Vyazma before the arrival of the mud, meaning that a winter push on Moscow is a real possibility. Events in the south must not be allowed to distract us from the strategic imperative of securing the capitol.
South
The enemy has continued to exploit the strategic surprise achieved in this sector with thrusts to the extreme south and into the Crimea. As predicted, he now appears to be at risk of becoming over-extended and he may be vulnerable to a counter-offensive on the flank of his southern salient, even in the event of a breakthrough into the northern Caucasus region. Planning for such an eventuality has commenced, being assigned the temporary code name 'Operation Moon'.
AIR FORCES AND OPERATIONS
Our air force continues to conduct only limited operations, primarily resupply and partisan supply.
NAVAL FORCES AND OPERATIONS
Aside from mine warfare, no naval operations have been conducted during the period.
INDUSTRIAL
The enemy's accelerated southern advance has captured some portions of our industry, but evacuation was already well underway in most cases, the rejuvenation of our productive capacity in the east should be assured.
INTELLIGENCE
We currently have very limited intelligence on enemy intentions and dispositions. Air reconnaissance is not yet effective.
PARTISAN OPERATIONS
Partisan operations have commenced at several points behind AGC, facilitated by the concentration of all available Red Air Force VVS units in the Moscow area.
ENEMY CAPABILITIES AND LIKELY INTENTIONS
Prisoner interrogations indicate that the enemy's armoured forces are suffering from supply shortages and the effects of attrition. However, they will resupply and refit during the Rasputitsa and are likely to be deployed in one of two modes:
A. A pincer movement directed at Moscow.
B. A southern thrust that may either swing north towards Moscow (least likely route) or south to cut off the Kuban (most likely route). A drive on Stalingrad is also possible, but this would almost certainly be suicidal.
PROJECTED SITUATION +4 WEEKS
North
Leningrad and environs will continue to hold.
Center
Moscow will be under severe threat of encirclement (40% probability).
South
The Kuban and northern Caucasus will have fallen (80% probability).
LONG TERM PROJECTIONS +20 WEEKS
Our winter counter offensive will have trapped significant Axis forces in the south, or forced them back to the west of Rostov at a minimum. Smaller gains in the center will have eased the pressure on Moscow.
Signed: Zhukov
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