Bwheatley vs abulbulian GC 1.5.18 beta (no abulbulian)

[76mm]

ORIGINAL: ComradeP

They do, but with the new fort rules, there's less need to build them compared to earlier versions, as the benefits are much more limited. Your units can generally build a level 2 fort by themselves fairly easily, you mostly needed the brigades for either instant-forts in the next enemy logistics phase (when your forts are build) or higher level forts.

Good point, I hadn't thought about that...

[Aurelian]

Ahh. Wasn't aware of the new rules. D'oh.

[bwheatley]

ORIGINAL: ComradeP

They do, but with the new fort rules, there's less need to build them compared to earlier versions, as the benefits are much more limited. Your units can generally build a level 2 fort by themselves fairly easily, you mostly needed the brigades for either instant-forts in the next enemy logistics phase (when your forts are build) or higher level forts.

AHh cool thanks comrade nice to know. I'm still getting used to the changes since 1.3

[bwheatley]

Ok got my turn from ara i'll get the start screens up shortly.

[bwheatley]

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North at the start of the turn


Center at the start



South at the start

[bwheatley]

In the north we were able to cut off a mobile unit


Near smolensk we have a very thin line we need to try to hold on the dnepr

[bwheatley]

To respond to the threat on smolensk we moved the remnants of the 20th army forward to get some attrition damage on the nazi's. We also moved the 24th army that was building from the rzhev area to hold smolensk.


It seems like this push was a lot faster then i remember last time i played but we can hopefully keep him out of smolensk for a few more turns if he stays careful.

[bwheatley]

In the south we have a new pocket with the 6th army west of kiev. We were 1 hex away from opening up the pocket.


In the Lvov pocket area we were able to fly in 5% of supplies required so we got the bulk of the units setup with beachhead supplies.


It will only delay the inevitable.

We worked on clearing out a few cities of their armaments but the rail points do not last that long now a days. We worked on bringing our reserves forward to try to get a line in place.

Their are troops at the gates of pskov and kiev. Hopefully the nazi's will have to slow down next turn to try to kill off those pockets.

[bwheatley]

Should have T3 today so i can start going over it and seeing what damage there is. Also with the rail penalty gone i should be able to start getting armament points out. Do folks think i should just ignore vehicles or heavy industry? It seems like heavy industry will still be important at least down the road when it's my turn to be on the attack. What good will having all my armament points do if i'm unable to have the supplies to push folks forward?

[kirkgregerson]

Good stuff so far. Will be interesting to see how the supply works in the pocket. So what is the rail modifier that changes now for Soviets? Was it 2x to rail factories before t3?

Hopefully you'll get another turn in today.

[:D]

[bigbaba]

great game so far.

[bwheatley]

lol that was a nice save with the edit. For a few i was looking back to see if pelton somehow posted in here. But it reminds me of my question is armaments really the big thing? I think i still need to balance HI and vehicle as well. Without any HI i won't have any bullets to shoot

[jzardos]

Yeah, I'm curious too about how the air supply helps units.  As Axis, I normally don't care about that Lvov pocket as much since there sort of out of the way of the main advance and rail lines.  It will be interesting how the advanced in the south goes in this game.  Looks like the Axis might be pushing here unless the extra panzer units were just for the pocket and will now start to move back north towards Moscow.

yes, more turns please...
[&o]

[kirkgregerson]

No turn 3 from axis yet?  Need my AAR fix today from you guys.

[:(]

[bwheatley]

Ok got T3

[bwheatley]

Needless to say with the new update i have to pay a lot more attention to the HQ a unit is attached to :/ A lot of -20%, -10% because of bad hq's setup.

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: bwheatley
Needless to say with the new update i have to pay a lot more attention to the HQ a unit is attached to :/ A lot of -20%, -10% because of bad hq's setup.

Yeah, speaking of bad setup's what are they all.....anybody know? I've heard of one for -20% for being a combat unit being attached to STAVKA still instead of a "regular" HQ, and it seems like I remember one for -10% for a combat unit being out of range of it's HQ unit. Things like that. Are there any more?

[bwheatley]

North:
We see that pskov was bypassed and conquered. I've got reinforcements getting to the leningrad area this turn hopefully. And it's T3 and ara is not a gamey player who abuses HQ buildup so i feel it safe to think the panzers are probably in need of a rest next turn.


Center:
Looks like the panzers could not force their way over the dnepr which is a small favor. They did manage to take Vitebsk though.


SouthWest:
Kiev has been isolated.


South:
Romanian progress has been slow and hopefully we'll at least put up a fight by odessa that will require the 11th army to step in.

[bwheatley]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

ORIGINAL: bwheatley
Needless to say with the new update i have to pay a lot more attention to the HQ a unit is attached to :/ A lot of -20%, -10% because of bad hq's setup.

Yeah, speaking of bad setup's what are they all.....anybody know? I've heard of one for -20% for being a combat unit being attached to STAVKA still instead of a "regular" HQ, and it seems like I remember one for -10% for a combat unit being out of range of it's HQ unit. Things like that. Are there any more?

Well the what'snew.pdf says -10% for a front HQ as well.

[bwheatley]

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