Bring me the head of Diego Garcia...and the Mayor of Addu Atoll too!

[Cap Mandrake]

Wow..that is a remarkable level of accuracy on bombers and fighters.

As I thought and had been my suspicion previously, the "aux" figure seems inflated.

[Cap Mandrake]

I think we are probably up against Zuikaku and Soryu and one of them just lost 20 Kates or so.

Admiral Lord Sprior has just sent me the turn and is pressing on toward Port Headland. <makes sign of cross> [:D]

[witpqs]

Just for a bit better view, I went back and did the same thing, only ran 4 turns. The IJ numbers are the same, and here is a montage of the 4 Allied observations:

[Cap Mandrake]

The carrier plane figure is within 11% of the true value on all trials and the "aux" figure is 400-500% high on all trials (even if you count reserve aircraft as "aux")

[witpqs]

I'm thinking that torpedo planes are being counted as both bombers and auxiliary. I'm pretty sure those old posts about them being counted as auxiliary were correct, but this test was run with current Beta (1108q4). And throw in a good dose of FOW.

[witpqs]

In Tech Support, Michael said:

Aux is being increased by 'fighters' due to bad 'if' clause. Been that way all along. Fixed in q5

Another bug bites the dust.

[Alfred]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

In Tech Support, Michael said:

Aux is being increased by 'fighters' due to bad 'if' clause. Been that way all along. Fixed in q5

Another bug bites the dust.

Saw that.

Still, michaelm did not actually identify what "auxiliary" is supposed to represent. If the mouseover numbers subsequently drop markedly, "auxiliary" might mean whatever is left over, ie not a fighter or bomber.

Alfred

[Cap Mandrake]

The good news:

Cpt Tenant's prayer worked for Repulse. She has no surface combat, the jap carrier launch no attacks, Port Headland airfield is pounded to rubble (even more) and Broome is under severe storm watch due to global cooling.

The bad news...against regulation, one of the Amphib Group commanders is a Zoroastrian and calls on the moon god or some such thing....



>

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 06, 42



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Night Time Surface Combat, near Exmouth at 51,128, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Ayanami, Shell hits 3
DD Sazanami

Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Nashville
CL Capetown, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Banckert
DD Encounter
DD Isis
AO Cimarron
AP President Adams
AP Thomas Jefferson
xAP Rochambeau
xAK Canadian, Shell hits 2
xAK Delawarean
xAK Santa Elisa
xAK Edgar Luckenbach
xAK Coquina, Shell hits 1
xAK Kalani
xAP Harpoon
xAP Doumer
xAP Malda
xAP Talma
xAP Tilawa
xAP Rajula
xAP Rohna
xAP Amra
xAP Chilka
xAP Khedive Ismail
xAP Takliwa
xAP Santhia
xAK Bellerophon
xAK Charon
xAK Stanmore
xAK Clan Cameron
xAP Empire Star
xAP Dunedin Star
xAP Empire Pride
xAP Felix Roussel
xAP Cap St Jacques
xAP Boschfontein
xAP Tabinta
xAP Tjisaroea



Reduced sighting due to 10% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 10% moonlight: 2,000 yards

[Cap Mandrake]

Maya and her escorts get pulverized when the sun comes up:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Exmouth at 53,122

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes


Allied aircraft
Albacore I x 12
Martlet II x 1
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5
SBD-3 Dauntless x 44


Allied aircraft losses
Albacore I: 4 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Maya, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Sazanami, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Ayanami, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Chikuma is hit by a Dutch sub. Don't know what kind of shape Nevada is in yet.

[Cap Mandrake]

Happily, the end is near for the two infantry divison-equivalents, the armored division, an air HQ, support troops and a shedload of heavy artillery on Fiji.

After a week and a half of continuous ground and air attacks they are attriting themselves to death.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

The good news:

Cpt Tenant's prayer worked for Repulse. She has no surface combat, the jap carrier launch no attacks, Port Headland airfield is pounded to rubble (even more) and Broome is under severe storm watch due to global cooling.

The bad news...against regulation, one of the Amphib Group commanders is a Zoroastrian and calls on the moon god or some such thing....



>

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 06, 42



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Night Time Surface Combat, near Exmouth at 51,128, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Ayanami, Shell hits 3
DD Sazanami

Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Nashville
CL Capetown, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Banckert
DD Encounter
DD Isis
AO Cimarron
AP President Adams
AP Thomas Jefferson
xAP Rochambeau
xAK Canadian, Shell hits 2
xAK Delawarean
xAK Santa Elisa
xAK Edgar Luckenbach
xAK Coquina, Shell hits 1
xAK Kalani
xAP Harpoon
xAP Doumer
xAP Malda
xAP Talma
xAP Tilawa
xAP Rajula
xAP Rohna
xAP Amra
xAP Chilka
xAP Khedive Ismail
xAP Takliwa
xAP Santhia
xAK Bellerophon
xAK Charon
xAK Stanmore
xAK Clan Cameron
xAP Empire Star
xAP Dunedin Star
xAP Empire Pride
xAP Felix Roussel
xAP Cap St Jacques
xAP Boschfontein
xAP Tabinta
xAP Tjisaroea



Reduced sighting due to 10% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 10% moonlight: 2,000 yards

Geez...[:(]

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Happily, the end is near for the two infantry divison-equivalents, the armored division, an air HQ, support troops and a shedload of heavy artillery on Fiji.

After a week and a half of continuous ground and air attacks they are attriting themselves to death.

Are those your forces or theirs?

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Happily, the end is near for the two infantry divison-equivalents, the armored division, an air HQ, support troops and a shedload of heavy artillery on Fiji.

After a week and a half of continuous ground and air attacks they are attriting themselves to death.

Are those your forces or theirs?

Not sure if there are any Tannanese "mercenaries" but otherwise they all belong to the Emperor.

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

The good news:

Cpt Tenant's prayer worked for Repulse. She has no surface combat, the jap carrier launch no attacks, Port Headland airfield is pounded to rubble (even more) and Broome is under severe storm watch due to global cooling.

The bad news...against regulation, one of the Amphib Group commanders is a Zoroastrian and calls on the moon god or some such thing....



>

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 06, 42



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Night Time Surface Combat, near Exmouth at 51,128, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Ayanami, Shell hits 3
DD Sazanami

Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Nashville
CL Capetown, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Banckert
DD Encounter
DD Isis
AO Cimarron
AP President Adams
AP Thomas Jefferson
xAP Rochambeau
xAK Canadian, Shell hits 2
xAK Delawarean
xAK Santa Elisa
xAK Edgar Luckenbach
xAK Coquina, Shell hits 1
xAK Kalani
xAP Harpoon
xAP Doumer
xAP Malda
xAP Talma
xAP Tilawa
xAP Rajula
xAP Rohna
xAP Amra
xAP Chilka
xAP Khedive Ismail
xAP Takliwa
xAP Santhia
xAK Bellerophon
xAK Charon
xAK Stanmore
xAK Clan Cameron
xAP Empire Star
xAP Dunedin Star
xAP Empire Pride
xAP Felix Roussel
xAP Cap St Jacques
xAP Boschfontein
xAP Tabinta
xAP Tjisaroea



Reduced sighting due to 10% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 10% moonlight: 2,000 yards

Geez...[:(]

That ain't the worst of it. There were no less than 3 BB-centered surface groups in the same hex.

[Cap Mandrake]

This brings up a good question. Pretend I didn't read the manual...or pretend this isn't in the manual.

What determines battle order when an enemy surface TF enters a hex (in this case at night)?

Follow orders?

TF type?

Commander ratings?

TF numerology?

TF commander spiritual affiliation?

Bowel gas?

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

This brings up a good question. Pretend I didn't read the manual...or pretend this isn't in the manual.

What determines battle order when an enemy surface TF enters a hex (in this case at night)?

Follow orders?

TF type?

Commander ratings?

TF numerology?

TF commander spiritual affiliation?

Bowel gas?

Tis' a mystery of life, herr Capitan. Supposition abounds.

It does seem (anecdotally speaking) that CV TFs are pretty high on the list of things SCTFs will preferentially engage. The low moonlight levels allowed these guys to be torpedoed by the small incoming surface raider TF. As our mirror campaign also demonstrated, CVTFs under 'follow' orders in proximity to an incoming enemy SCTF are particularly prone to butchery.

Night skill, captain ratings, crew ratings, presence or absence of radar / quality of same on lead defensive surface combatants probably plays a role too, but I don't think anyone is in the know about the formula, 'cept the programmers. And they ain't talking.

[Cap Mandrake]

..

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Happily, the end is near for the two infantry divison-equivalents, the armored division, an air HQ, support troops and a shedload of heavy artillery on Fiji.

After a week and a half of continuous ground and air attacks they are attriting themselves to death.

Are those your forces or theirs?

Not sure if there are any Tannanese "mercenaries" but otherwise they all belong to the Emperor.

Oh goody!

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

..

What job do you guys have Nimitz doing?

[Alfred]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

This brings up a good question. Pretend I didn't read the manual...or pretend this isn't in the manual.

What determines battle order when an enemy surface TF enters a hex (in this case at night)?

Follow orders?

TF type?

Commander ratings?

TF numerology?

TF commander spiritual affiliation?

Bowel gas?

Back in classical WITP days, the TF number had a bearing in determining the order of combat. That is no longer the case in AE which has a complicated relationship set in place. Have a read of this thread, specifially Don Bowen's post #8.

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Alfred