Board games v Computer games

[Tombstone]

That's funny. I play a lot of boardgames, I used to play them all the time. Computers, job, and wife have changed that a lot. My life is games and understanding them is very important to me. I'm not knocking boardgames, but I honestly think that they exist mostly in a time that is nearly passed. The new developments in boardgame rules now focus a lot more on person to person interactions. Some of them are really sophisticated and a lot of fun. Games like Modern Art and even light duty games like Settlers of Cataan are a huge improvement over a lot of the classical wargames out there. Those wargames are far better portrayed in the computer format. Especially ones that model operational issues. I'm generalizing here as well, there are exceptions... but they are just that. Exceptions.

Tomo

[Reiryc]

Originally posted by Tombstone
Under rare circumstances a radio show can be superior to one on video or a screen. Those instances are rare. There will always be those who live in the past, it's comforting. It is just an opinion I suppose, but it sure feels like a fact to me.

Tomo

Beer...

[jeffcruz]

i think both games are great at their own place ,i love to play carom etc and at the same time i love to play pc games like driver san francisco also.

[bairdlander2]

I have joined a boardgame group in my area.When I get home I will probably attend.

[Perturabo]

I had a 3 month period of fascination with solo boardgames this year. I don't know why but I have stopped playing them. On the other hand, I started spending unhealthy amounts of time by computer.

[wodin]

A spambot bought this thread back from the ancient past.

[Titanwarrior89]

Another thing about board games is that they last longer if you take care of them(no system up grades). Also for some of the wargames(board) years later you can get your money back plus some-Look at ebay and the boardgame geek.  Last but not least most computer games the AI is marginial at best.  I myself still play and buy board wargames(I have DAK2 set up) along with the computer games(mainly historical).  I would recommend both. 

But I know after window's 20 comes out at least my DAK2 will still be running and looking pretty minus a little wear tear.[;)]


Note: With board games there is no DRM>[&o]

[wodin]

Currently testing the solo gameplay for Bloody April by Terry Simo GMT games. You want a WW1 airwar game....this is the one.

[Titanwarrior89]

Ill take a look at it. [:)]

ORIGINAL: wodin

Currently testing the solo gameplay for Bloody April by Terry Simo GMT games. You want a WW1 airwar game....this is the one.

[E]

ORIGINAL: Titanwarrior89
But I know after window's 20 comes out at least my DAK2 will still be running and looking pretty minus a little wear tear.

Assuming you have not lost any counters and have a sports arena to lay out the maps for that particular game. *grin*

[Hertston]

ORIGINAL: wodin
A spambot bought this thread back from the ancient past.

The odd thing though is that it hasn't dated at all. That must prove something, but I'm not quite sure what!

I was never that 'into' boardgames, although I've picked up some over time where the subject or mechanics particularly interested me. I think that's mainly because when I first got into wargaming at Uni both the college and city wargaming groups played miniatures games almost exclusively; SFB being about the only regular exception. Probably 80&% of my gaming time was playing WRG 6th or 7th ancients.

[sterckxe]

ORIGINAL: Titanwarrior89
Note: With board games there is no DRM

Last month I traded 4 boardgames for others I might enjoy a bit more - imagine the horror if you tried that with DRM-infected pc games.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/7 ... tem1830989

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx

[wodin]

@TitanWarrior go to the forum on consim world...some AARS up there give you an idea of how it plays.

[Titanwarrior89]

I have a table set up in my-"Man Cave"-all children out of the house-No Cats-baby gate for dog-and now soloing DAK2.[:D]
Wodin: I am a regular on Consim ill check the AAR's out.

ORIGINAL: E

ORIGINAL: Titanwarrior89
But I know after window's 20 comes out at least my DAK2 will still be running and looking pretty minus a little wear tear.

Assuming you have not lost any counters and have a sports arena to lay out the maps for that particular game. *grin*

[ilovestrategy]

God, what a freakin coincidence. I just joined a boardgame group this weekend. 

[jomni]

ORIGINAL: sterckxe

ORIGINAL: Titanwarrior89
Note: With board games there is no DRM

Last month I traded 4 boardgames for others I might enjoy a bit more - imagine the horror if you tried that with DRM-infected pc games.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/7 ... tem1830989

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx

Because pirating them is a difficult task! Unless you have the nerves to get the VASSAL version without owning the game itself.

Speaking of VASSAL. I own boardgames but I play them in the computer. I write Excel programs to automate some die roll resolution and chart referencing, as well as book-keeping and play the pieces in VASSAL. I might someday program something in Java (learning) as well.

[sterckxe]

ORIGINAL: jomni
Because pirating them is a difficult task! Unless you have the nerves to get the VASSAL version without owning the game itself.

PC wargame world : don't put the pdf manual online, don't publish demos, keep games under lock&chain with DRM so their resale value is zero

Boardgame world : put the pdf manual oline, publish Vassal modules, do everything possible to accomodate the customer.

Guess which which market segment had a (reported) 10% market growth in 2010 ? Hint : it ain't the digital one

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx

[bairdlander2]

The boardgame group I joined plays "Axis and Allies".How detailed is this game?Is it grognard?I was thinking of bringing ASL.

[sterckxe]

ORIGINAL: bairdlander
The boardgame group I joined plays "Axis and Allies".How detailed is this game?Is it grognard?I was thinking of bringing ASL.

Axis and Allies is like advanced Risk - it has some nice wargamey type provisions for transporting troops, subs getting a free shot and nice subtleties like infantry being better in defence than offense but it's very, very light. Example : if the US builds a factory in China they can start "producing" troops there.

ASL is waaaaaay more complicated and frankly not really a good choice if you want to get people to play WWII tactical combat games with you. Conflict of Heroes, Lock 'n Load, Valor and Victory and even Combat Commander are better choices.

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx

[Perturabo]

Does anyone know any good board wargame that follows the up to two levels down rule?