Bring me the head of Diego Garcia...and the Mayor of Addu Atoll too!

[House Stark]

Have you fire North Carolina's skipper yet? That ship deserves better than the cowards you've found for her. Or was the TF commander someone else last time? Although I had another thought: perhaps your commander had too high of an "honor" attribute and thought it would be bad form to attack fleeing Japanese cripples.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: House Stark

Have you fire North Carolina's skipper yet? That ship deserves better than the cowards you've found for her.

At this point, that's the third or fourth cowardly engagement that North Carolina has been involved in. This makes a strong argument for AW1Steve's long-standing request for a "Take him out and shoot him" button on the ship's command screen.

[Cap Mandrake]

The failure of North Carolina to intervene while 2 CV's were sunk by gunfire is bad enough, but the failure to engage an already damaged (and probably with empty magazines) Hyuga when North Carolina had 75% of her main gun ammo left and was unscratched is beyond words.

Santa Maria!

[Grollub]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: House Stark

Have you fire North Carolina's skipper yet? That ship deserves better than the cowards you've found for her.

At this point, that's the third or fourth cowardly engagement that North Carolina has been involved in. This makes a strong argument for AW1Steve's long-standing request for a "Take him out and shoot him" button on the ship's command screen.

Seems a little excessive.

File for a "Label the captain as a 'twat'" button on the tech support forum instead? [:'(]

[Cap Mandrake]

Meanwhile we discover the death of the Allied carriers has been "wildly exaggerated" (to paraphrase Mark Twain).

Illustrious is completely unscathed. Yorktown has some system damage but can make good speed and conduct flight ops. Even Formidable has only 34% flotation damage and can make 17 kts. Formidable air groups recovered to Meekatharah and Carnavon.

JJ had massive carrier bomber losses, especially to Kates.

Even so, it is no time for another carrier battle. We have very few operational fighters left on the carriers. We need to get out what we can and come back with Yorktown, Wasp and Illustrious in about two weeks.

[Alfred]

ORIGINAL: Grollub

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: House Stark

Have you fire North Carolina's skipper yet? That ship deserves better than the cowards you've found for her.

At this point, that's the third or fourth cowardly engagement that North Carolina has been involved in. This makes a strong argument for AW1Steve's long-standing request for a "Take him out and shoot him" button on the ship's command screen.

Seems a little excessive.

File for a "Label the captain as a 'twat'" button on the tech support forum instead? [:'(]

Gentlemen, I must protest. I see the Captain of the North Carolina is to be deprived of procedural fairness (previously known as natural justice). Don't you realise that were he to instruct Messrs Dewey,Chatham etc, he could be successful in an action and be awarded substantial damages.

Alfred

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Meanwhile we discover the death of the Allied carriers has been "wildly exaggerated" (to paraphrase Mark Twain).

Great! And the Royal Sovereign? Did it not eat two extra torpedoes and sink?

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Grollub

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: House Stark

Have you fire North Carolina's skipper yet? That ship deserves better than the cowards you've found for her.

At this point, that's the third or fourth cowardly engagement that North Carolina has been involved in. This makes a strong argument for AW1Steve's long-standing request for a "Take him out and shoot him" button on the ship's command screen.

Seems a little excessive.

File for a "Label the captain as a 'twat'" button on the tech support forum instead? [:'(]

More buttons=more better. I didn't say you HAD to take him out and shoot him, but having the option would make a lot of would-be supreme commanders like the game system a lot more.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Alfred

ORIGINAL: Grollub

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy




At this point, that's the third or fourth cowardly engagement that North Carolina has been involved in. This makes a strong argument for AW1Steve's long-standing request for a "Take him out and shoot him" button on the ship's command screen.

Seems a little excessive.

File for a "Label the captain as a 'twat'" button on the tech support forum instead? [:'(]

Gentlemen, I must protest. I see the Captain of the North Carolina is to be deprived of procedural fairness (previously known as natural justice). Don't you realise that were he to instruct Messrs Dewey,Chatham etc, he could be successful in an action and be awarded substantial damages.

Alfred

I'm wondering if M&M Enterprises has a mobile "flying" courts martial unit that they can move around from place to place where this battlefield justice must be meted. It'd be easy enough to fit it for various and sundry Allied troops.

Perhaps a character voice actor could preside-someone with comfort in numerous regional accents. If it's a Limey on trial, wear one of those powder wig thingies and appropriate vestments. An Aussie: Lots of "Oi! Look 'ere, mate! I'll do the lot of you for that treason thing then!" and breaks in the action for beer service in the courtroom. American? Tearful breakdowns from the witness stand with full disclosure of adolescent / childhood traumas that warped the defendant's character. Punctuate that with an occasional yelling matches ("YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!") between the respective counsels and televised coverage and you've got winner there!

Final episode of the season? Brave and virtuous soliloquy of the convicted (close up on his oral hygeine) with the actual execution by firing squad-uniformed by sponsors. The whole kit and kaboodle sponsored by Crelm tootpaste.

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: Alfred

Gentlemen, I must protest. I see the Captain of the North Carolina is to be deprived of procedural fairness (previously known as natural justice). Don't you realise that were he to instruct Messrs Dewey,Chatham etc, he could be successful in an action and be awarded substantial damages.

Alfred

Wouldn't the US Navy have to AGREE to the action first, under the principle of Sovereign Immunity? [;)]

[Cap Mandrake]

As for Royal Sovereign...it appears the princple of Sovereign Immunity did NOT apply to her.


The funny thing about Formidable is the Admiralty wants her back (hehe).

[witpqs]

Isn't DCH's time all taken up right now with the delaying the sonar upgrades to save the left-handed sea-spiral or something?

[Alfred]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

ORIGINAL: Alfred

Gentlemen, I must protest. I see the Captain of the North Carolina is to be deprived of procedural fairness (previously known as natural justice). Don't you realise that were he to instruct Messrs Dewey,Chatham etc, he could be successful in an action and be awarded substantial damages.

Alfred

Wouldn't the US Navy have to AGREE to the action first, under the principle of Sovereign Immunity? [;)]

Aha, but then you would have the reviewable point as to whether "Sovereign Immunity" applies to the US Navy. Which in turn would require a thorough examination of what is "Sovereign Immunity". In the meantime, the aforementioned skipper would still be drawing his full remuneration.

Yep, I reckon we would probably get to see two A-bombs dropped on Japan before that legal dance were to be concluded.

Alfred

[Cap Mandrake]

There is also this exculpatory fact. Captain of North Carolina was not TF commander in the little incident with Hyuga.

He could claim, "I vas yust following ze orders"

Then he would have Sovereign Immunity AND the Nuremburg Defence. Throw in the maltreatment by his alcoholic step-father when he was 8 and the Captain could end up owning Subic Bay and Pearl Harbor.

The best solution is a negotiated retirement, a modest pension and probably the witness protection program.

[Cap Mandrake]

Air losses from the 12th

[Cap Mandrake]

Ship losses from the 12th. Kirishima was reported hit by one aerial torpedo but it seems more likely to have been an already damaged Hyuga. I am not convinced the BB was sunk.

[Cap Mandrake]

"Kab" Calloway is in command of the North Carolina taffy. He may need the witness protection program too.

In fairness, the DD's in the force are virtually out of ammo.

[Cap Mandrake]

Here he is during happier days (Christmas Jubilee, Coronado Officer's Club, 1938)

[Alfred]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

"Kab" Calloway is in command of the North Carolina taffy. He may need the witness protection program too.

In fairness, the DD's in the force are virtually out of ammo.

Good thing you didn't not commence any action against the North Carolina skipper.

Section 6.3.5 of the manual comments on what causes a TF to retreat from combat. They retreat when a single ship in the TF is down to less than 1/3 of normal main gun ammo left. Almost certainly, one of the DDs is the culprit.

Alfred

[Itdepends]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
I'm wondering if M&M Enterprises has a mobile "flying" courts martial unit that they can move around from place to place where this battlefield justice must be meted. It'd be easy enough to fit it for various and sundry Allied troops.

For comedy relief I think you'd get better ratings if the English prosecutor was John Cleese, of course then instead of a flying court martial unit it'd become a bit of a circus. Perhaps instead of M&M you could use MP instead.